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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:36 PM
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We need to have a serious discussion and decision about priorities.
Our future, the future of everyone we care about,...depends upon us effectively and devastatingly uniting our vast human resources (of minds, souls and bodies) and activating that best part of our humanity towards a unified chart, a collective vision.

We will define that simple collective cause among us because our freedom and uniqueness and value are priceless: we reject being treated as a mere trinket on the market of the profiteers.

We must decide what cause(s) we will unite to fight in order to create a space for all other caring advocacies which have been trashed, will be shredded until we create the environment necessary for the advance of true compassion. It is time we gather our thoughts and make some decisions about how to best vest our energies.

We need, no, we MUST have a discussion and decision about where we are going to go, from here. Presently, all conjecture concerning what is happening or what will happen under the BushCo/neoCON cabal is a complete waste of our time, a precious waste of our energy and problem-solving aptitudes and creative processes and LOVE for our family, our country, our world.

Let's have a discussion about how to beat these bastards.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:47 PM
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1. I don't know how well this will work, but
George Bush is far, far, far more popular in the US than anywhere else in the world. If the US (the Democratic Party) adopted a platform that the world could get behind, things would start to improve dramatically in terms of terrorism, the economy, international relations etc., etc.,.

In my Yahoo group on international politics (see signature) which has people in it from several different countries we had a lengthy and extensive discussion on this; on what an international political agenda might be and came up with this

http://www.earthlingsunited.info/sub/call.htm
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:59 PM
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6. Thank you for the link.
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 12:06 AM by Just Me
The precepts are,...common. Our challenge is to network.

Now, here is the challenge: discuss the priority of ACTIONS necessary to achieve those goals. I would suggest that we set aside the notion of "self-determination" since every human being on earth, even the most powerful, knows that there is no such thing (as much as the concept is utilized to fuck us all up,...please, give it up) On edit: we have the power to take a stand in our lives without expectation other than the investment in that power to take a stand. If the "reward" is not in that power, you never held "self-determination". I'm just sayin', "self-determination" is a sky-in-the-pie notion that none of us really grasp,...even the powers that be.

I do believe we have the power to reach for "Equity": Valuing fair treatment for all in the workforce, marketplace and civil society including the right to a living wage, housing, health care, education, voting, legal representation and religious freedom. There are those who HATE the potential of equity.

Sustainability: Valuing the unique resources that the Earth provides,
and striving for an economic system where all human activities
recycle and renew resources, not deplete them;
We have the capacity to create whatever we will,...if we want. Unfortunately, there are those who seek to exploit rather than contribute,...that "diseased" section of humanity. You know them better than they know themselves.

Peace: Valuing a life without fear of violence from other nations,
other members of their community, or any person in a position of
power.
Every member of humanity wants that. The only ones who take it away are those who are playing a game,...a game that has no human empathy or compassion or feeling for fellow human beings.

Your goals are common.

Now, let's talk about action to achieve those goals.

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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:49 PM
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2. Sell out.
No, I don't mean to them. I mean sell your stocks, bonds, houses, etc. Force those prices down. It's gonna collapse anyway in the not too distant future, so get what you can for it now.

Don't shop at corporate stores. Pay the extra few bucks and shop at mom and pop's. If there isn't one in your town, go to a nearby town.

Pay off your credit card, car loans, etc. and don't get new ones. You don't need them. You sure as hell don't need the usurious interest rates.

These people live and die by the dollar. Deprive them of dollars wherever and whenever possible.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:00 PM
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4. good plan for the most part -
but where will we live? in rented apartments? otherwise i agree.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 11:03 PM
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5. Renting will work.
It's simpler, too. Face it, one or more banks own most of the homes that we Americans "own." Selling now while prices are high and paying off debt is just a good idea.
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starmaker Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-05 10:52 PM
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3. Take back the vote count
We must realize that our pursuit of happiness is contingent on our right to self govern and that has been taken away and is a steamroller which must be stopped.
We have truth on our side and work continues by many people. The Election Assessment Hearing in Houston brought many together .We must let the people understand the severity of the problem and how very few politicans are standing with us.We are Americans first and must stand up for ourselves while power tries to divide us and diminish our message. We must hold our election system accountable.

Free Audited Transparent Elections. As guvworld said a peaceful revolution

We Will Count!
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