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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:31 AM Original message |
Scandal preparations ..... |
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GainesT1958 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. These two may well have had a role in it.. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. The need of the day |
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catmandu57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Rice is evil, pure fucking evil |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. She is indeed |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. To Me She Looks Like A Cobra |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
92. Funny uou sssshould sssay that :) |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Wow |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. And a Strange One At That! |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
100. Repuk Friends Say "Condi seems so nice!" |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I will NEVER forget her... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
80. Don't forget |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Interesting. |
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DaveT (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. Excellent review |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. "You own your lies" |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
102. Why was he on Rose's show? That's interesting. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 06:29 AM Response to Reply #102 |
104. A foreign policy discussion .... |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
6. nominated.. Rice is a deliberate liar |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. There have been hints |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:00 AM Response to Reply #13 |
21. I'm from clan MacMillan, we're all incorrigible liars. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. One of them |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #28 |
38. We're bloody angels. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
35. But What About Hannah? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. What about Hannah? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 12:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
103. Condi would NEVER lie!! Stop saying that! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 06:32 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Oh, I agree! |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
8. Nominated, and kicking. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Good question. |
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AuntiBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
101. Thanks to All Informed Out Here - Tonight I Might Sleep Better. |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. I remember in the beginning days of the * administration, when Condi Rice |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Perhaps she was your role model .... |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:40 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Go ahead, make fun. |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. It's refreshing how you openly describe awakening from a naive stupor. |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Oh, I have no illusions about |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:46 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Responsibility |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. so does |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Into your life |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. It starts when you're always afraid |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Step outta line, the man come |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. one of hte best protest songs EVER! |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
78. That, and |
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joseppi (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. CSN - Nope |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
96. A distinction without much difference |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
39. It's all about teams. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
61. Very good points, tblue37 |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Are you a Kansan? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
109. No, I just like sunflowers. South Carolina. nt |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 10:32 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. I was an Air Force brat. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
82. Happened in a similar way for me |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I know how you feel! From one Wes Clark supporter to another. |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Hi there incognito! Long time no see! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
43. Wes will ALWAYS be my candidate of choice! |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. I'll PM you with my old identity! Sorry to be so mysterious. n/t |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 08:33 AM Response to Reply #24 |
108. I agree. Do you ever really wonder |
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Just Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. The whole gang conspired to mislead us from day one. |
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im10ashus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. GOOD WORK!!!! |
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Beam Me Up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
15. Excellent synopsis. Thank you very much for this, H20 Man |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
18. I call here Condiliesalot |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
19. There should be a Senate hearing to look at all of Bushco lies |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
20. great narrative Mr. H2O Man! |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:34 AM Response to Reply #20 |
30. And that there is! |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
22. This goes to ALL the members of the NSC. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #22 |
31. "No oversight" = |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
27. Gwen Ifill is her "best buddy" so |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
29. Add to this Condi's Aluminum tubes LIES, Anodized coatings |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Very important point. |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
37. Until Judith Miller testifies, this case is goin NOWHERE |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Not true. |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. But is there enough in Cooper's testimony for a criminal indictment? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. Yes, there is. |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. Yep, and remember: Watergate was not about the crime... |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:05 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. Novak testified too n/t |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
83. I don't think you're right about that |
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oxbow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. believe me, I'd be glad to be wrong in this case |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I'm normally a pessimist |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Bush has been blowing so much smoke up his own ass, lately |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
41. Why does she always get a pass |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. I think the republicans |
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BronxBoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. And it makes it doubly worse that she's Black....... |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. it is frustrating that so many in this administration are unable to |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. Very nice, well written and inspiring piece of work, H2O Man. Thanks. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
89. It's interesting: |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #89 |
118. "None dare call it Conspiracy" Gary Allen |
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anarchy1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-05 05:17 AM Response to Reply #89 |
119. John Dean called it. "Worse than Watergate", and I think he must |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
52. H2O Man, this is one of the funniest articles you've written. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. RP, That Chart H Was Referring To |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:33 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. I'm not sure what chart you're referring to, Me. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. See Post #44 |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Thanks. |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. It might make her President |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. It wouldn't be the first time we had a President with no memory. |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Or was criminally culpable. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
72. It is the Iran-Contra scandal. |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 07:54 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. Yes indeed. Abrams, Ledeen etc. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Thank you! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. Hadley and Rice were instrumental in selling the product |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 03:16 PM Response to Reply #56 |
73. That's the ball game, |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. That WaPo article is quite something to re-read almost 2 yrs later |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Thank you for that link! |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. thank you for your link as well |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
62. Rice, Cheney and Bush are all WELL AWARE of exactly what went down |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Yeah, buth truth, lies, and history |
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CoffeeAnnan (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
65. So, when is Rice or her spokestoady going to say her statements |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
71. Kick |
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robertpaulsen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
74. Rice and Hadley also have a lot of 'splaining to do on Chalabi/Franklin. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. And... |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
75. but she tells the truth in spite of herself |
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
76. kick |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
94. Saw this elsewhere... If you haven't seen it, it's FANTASTIC |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. a bit more--Straight shooters are what corrupt power brokers fear most. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 06:35 AM Response to Reply #97 |
106. Exactly. |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 09:10 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Was, and still is. You can interract with him via his blog. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 09:44 AM Response to Reply #97 |
112. Thank you for quoting that. |
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Zorbuddha (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. I'm not worthy |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-11-05 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
98. Plot Thickens |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 06:37 AM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Interesting. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
111. Great synopsis, as usual, H20 Man |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 10:44 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Lots of us have speculated about this particular theory |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 10:53 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I do not think that Wilson |
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coeur_de_lion (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-12-05 11:21 AM Response to Reply #116 |
117. That theory makes sense to me too |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-05 05:46 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. "I hope the American public is not that stupid." |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-13-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Oh, they did. |
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