MUST SEE TV!! (please hand me my tinfoil hat now)

[helderheid]

http://www.terrorize.dk/misc/london/london.terror.games.wmv

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Dupe.

Too numerous to count.

[helderheid]

2. I thought the video deserved it's own thread - didn't see another

thread with just this video - happy to delete this - first off to look for that thread

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. I haven't seen the video, helderheid! Don't delete it,

please? :) I'm off to watch it! Thanks for posting it! :hi:

[helderheid]

5. Thank you

Won't delete. :)

[Must_B_Free]

3. thanks, I had not seen this video

[helderheid]

6. it's interesting that in both interviews, the interviewer had to stop him

and clarify what he was saying because it was so incredible to them as well that this could be happening at the exact same time.

[in_cog_ni_to]

7. I just watched the video and

I would cut off my right arm to know WHICH PRIVATE COMPANY he was running this rescue exercise for and who the company is connected to.

My :tinfoilhat: has been firmly in place ever since the London bombings happened. :)

This is right out of Cheney's playbook from 911. Coincidence? :scared:

[helderheid]

8. yea, he mentioned in the BBC interview that he couldn't say who hired them

but that if they were listening they obviously knew who they were. Now Blair doesn't want an investigation - hmmm wonder why. We might hear who that company that was hired was perhaps???

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. We have a better chance of knowing who that company is because

the UK press actually does it's job! I think it will be 'leaked' eventually. ;)

Nominated!

[helderheid]

9. .

[MelissaB]

10. Thank you!

Nominating :hi:

[helderheid]

44. thanks for the nomination!

:hi:

[Must_B_Free]

12. was picked because of the high number of jewish businessmen

working in the area.

[helderheid]

13. what was picked?

[lonestarnot]

64. And number of American Banks in the area.

[ClayZ]

14. Thanks. I had not seen the Video either.

FREAKY!

Now where did I put my tinfoil hat...

[helderheid]

15. yes, it's getting freakier and freakier

I am emailing everyone I know that video

[nashville_brook]

16. any idea what the significance is of the drill coincidence?

was it to delay action? to add confusion? anyone know?

[helderheid]

17. it's all speculation at this point

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

59. Control.

Of information and apparatus.

The shadowy hand is limned.- RiF

[lonestarnot]

65. Provide cover for the real thing.

[helderheid]

18. ...must see...

[arikara]

19. Thanks for this

I have been jumped on for my opinion that the London bombings are just too convenient. If that's tinfoil, then so be it.

:tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat::tinfoilhat:

[helderheid]

20. My hat is permanently attached at this point.

[Radio_Lady]

71. OT: COULD SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE TINFOIL HATS?

-- I've kept quiet for weeks about this, but where did this arise?

Does it have something to do with receiving radio waves (with messages) if you wear a tin foil hat?

I'm clueless and curious... and in the radio business, too -- so it would be good if I understood it.

Thanks.

On the path -- to peace -- and bedtime!

Radio Lady

[BeHereNow]

21. My Mac won't open it-

Just get a text file when I go to the link-
Can someone give me a summary?
Thanks!
BHN

[helderheid]

23. It's a TV interview with Peter Power - he talked about how his

company was hired (won't say by who) to do a bomb simulation in order to do a drill in case of a terror attack... in the exact places and time of the actual attack on London!!

[BeHereNow]

24. NO Friggin' WAY!

And Blair has waylaid an investigation into the explosives used?
Okay, pass the Reynolds wrap.
BHN

[helderheid]

25. WAY!!

Yea, and Blair doesn't want an investigation - EXCACTLY. Since you can't see the interview, have you at least heard the other interview on BBC Radio 5? He says the same thing there.

To hear the original BBC 5 radio piece, go here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/drive.shtml

Then click on Thursday at "Listen again to Drive:"

When the replay starts skip ahead one hour (click the 15 mins jump 4 times).
The interview with Power starts a few minutes after that.

[BeHereNow]

26. Listening now-

be right back-
BHN

[BeHereNow]

29. Damn! I can't find it...

I did exactly as you instructed me too.
Clicked the jump 4 times and no luck.
Visually, about where does it start on the
program moniter screen?
Halfway? Near the end?
First quarter?
Three quarters of the way in?
I REALLY want to hear it,
sorry to be a pest.
BHN

[helderheid]

30. no worries

Remember it's Thursday's show and it is at: 18:02:51

[BeHereNow]

31. Thanks-

I will go there!
BHN

[helderheid]

33. no worries

18:04:12 is exactly where he starts talking about this

[BeHereNow]

39. Okay, finally found another link to it-

I gave up on finding it on the BBC link-
I did a search and found a clip that is
specific to the interview:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/audio/090705exercise_clip.mp3
Courtesy of Prison Planet.
Down right CREEPY.
BHN

[shanti]

22. just like the "exercises"

for 9/11...interesting... :tinfoilhat:

[Bethany Rockafella]

27. Thanks.

This is the first proof I have seen that there were emergency exercises going on the same day as the bombs went off.

[helderheid]

28. do you have the links about the same thing going on on 9/11?

I have heard about it but don't know if I've seen any links to that.

[Minstrel Boy]

32. Here's a good page with lots of links:

http://www.oilempire.us/wargames.html

[QuettaKid]

34. KICK. nt

r

[helderheid]

35. Thank you!! I found these as well

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/031505_mckinney_transcript.shtml

http://www.wanttoknow.info/050317wargames911

Apparently Rep. Mckinney is all over this. Bless her!

[helderheid]

36. the first link has a video of McKinney grilling Rummy

[Generator]

37. It took me awhile

But here's a link to an old A/P article:
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm

John Fulton - Intelligence Networking & Analysis

On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team at the CIA were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2002-08-22-sept-11-plane-drill-_x.htm

There's the USA today article. How freaking mainstream do we need it to be? And you wonder why I'm sick in the gut from this London story.

Federal agency planned plane-crashing-into-building drill ... last Sept. 11

WASHINGTON (AP) — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism — it was to be a simulated accident.
Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

The agency is about four miles from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.

And don't forget:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-04-18-norad_x.htm

NORAD had drills of jets as weapons
By Steven Komarow and Tom Squitieri, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — In the two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, the North American Aerospace Defense Command conducted exercises simulating what the White House says was unimaginable at the time: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties

[helderheid]

38. I appreciate this - I just wanted to make sure we had proof and it wasn't

just rumor. I am watching too an old CSPAN video with discussion on this - so it's a fact. 2 terror attacks - both of which happened at the same time as war games - 2 governments resisting investigations.

[BeHereNow]

40. There was an interview segment today

on our local Pacifica station (KPFK)
that featured a REALLY bad interviewer and
several locals living near one of the bombing
locations-
SEVERAL of the locals mentioned that they
would not be surprised if Blair had ordered the
attacks on them to boost support for their
Iraq involvement.
Seems we are not alone in expecting the
worst from our government.
Can you believe it has come to this?
BHN

[helderheid]

41. WOW!!

That's pretty amazing!!

By the way, did you manage to hear the BBC interview?

[BeHereNow]

46. Yes, FINALLY! I found a link on Prison Planet

I posted it above-
It is the exact excerpt and rather chilling.
I repeat, pass the Reynolds Wrap...
BHN

[helderheid]

47. Yes, I tried to avoid the PP link and use the original source so no one

could attack it. :) Chilling is right!

[helderheid]

45. partial transcript

DR: We'll get back on both of the first two questions but the Congresswoman has raised the other question twice now, and I'd like to have general Myers respond, because you mentioned it in the last Hearing and I think it'd be helpful to get the answer even though we're on red, if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman?

DH: General Myers, go right ahead.

CMK: But I would like to have the answer in writing as well, as I thought my office was promised.

RM: Okay I don't know about the promise, Congresswoman, but could you repeat the question to make sure I'm answering the right question; this is a 9/11 question.

31:25
CMK: The question was, we had four wargames going on on September 11th, and the question that I tried to pose before the Secretary had to go to lunch was whether or not the activities of the four wargames going on on September 11th actually impaired our ability to respond to the attacks.

RM: The answer to the question is no, it did not impair our response, in fact General Eberhart who was in the command of the North American Aerospace Defense Command as he testified in front of the 9/11 Commission I believe - I believe he told them that it enhanced our ability to respond, given that NORAD didn't have the overall responsibility for responding to the attacks that day. That was an FAA responsibility. But they were two CPXs; there was one Department of Justice exercise that didn't have anything to do with the other three; and there was an actual operation ongoing because there was some Russian bomber activity up near Alaska. So we -

CMK: Let me ask you this, then: who was in charge of managing those wargames?

DH: General, why don't you give the best answer that you can here in a short a period of time and we'll - the gentlelady wants to get a written answer anyway, and then we can move on to other folks.

RM: The important thing to realize is that North American Aerospace Defense Command was responsible. These are command post exercises; what that means is that all the battle positions that are normally not filled are indeed filled; so it was an easy transition from an exercise into a real world situation. It actually enhanced the response; otherwise, it would take somewhere between 30 minutes and a couple of hours to fill those positions, those battle stations, with the right staff officers.

CMK: Mr. Chairman, begging your indulgence, was September Eleventh declared a National Security Special Event day?

RM: I have to look back; I do not know. Do you mean after the fact, or

CMK: No. Because of the activities going on that had been scheduled at the United Nations that day.

RM: I'd have to go back and check. I don't know.

[in_cog_ni_to]

66. And the same 2 governments who are in the DSM.

And the same 2 LEADERS whose polls are in the toilet and the same 2 LEADERS whose political lives are in jeopardy. BUT...don't look. Move on. Nothing to see. :eyes:

Wait...those ARE FACTS, right? :crazy:

[Matariki]

42. here's a thought other than mihop

(not that i'd rule that out per se)

whoever did it somehow got the information about the exercises and choose how and where to bomb as a sort of 'in your face' to the British govt.

[helderheid]

43. possible

What's for certain is something is fishy!

[spanone]

48. Another one of those koink-a-dinks.

[helderheid]

49. right :)

[helderheid]

50. kick for evening crowd

[JackRiddler]

51. oh please!

Tell me the company doing the hiring is Giuliani Associates!

That would be soooo perfect.

[helderheid]

52. heheheheheh

[helderheid]

53. why the fuck was he there anyway????

[in_cog_ni_to]

67. I hadn't even thought of Guilani's new company!

:tinfoilhat:

[helderheid]

54. please keep this kicked - many weren't aware of this video - between it

and the BBC interview, many an eyebrow should be raised. This is TOO WEIRD.

[sundancekid]

55. and another deserving KICK ... appreciate your posting and helping on this

it is soooo cool when the OP sticks around and is WAY helpful in facilitating questions that come up ... big props to you, helderheid!

:yourock:

[helderheid]

56. Thank you but what the hell is an OP?

:)

KICK IT!

[helderheid]

57. I love it when I rock - but am still confused on OP

[bling bling]

58. OP

Original Post(er). The first/opening post on a thread.

[helderheid]

60. THANK YOU! I suspected for the longest time that MIHOP and LIHOP

had something to do with pancakes

[in_cog_ni_to]

63. Pancakes?

:rofl: Funny.

:kick:

[helderheid]

61. important kick - please help me out here

[helderheid]

62. I'm going to bed but I still think this is fucking important

[helderheid]

68. thanks for 14 votes- I[m going to bed

[loudsue]

69. And a BIG Texas Oil sized KICK!! Recommended!!!

There are a few megalomaniacs running the 2 biggest superpowers on the globe..... :boring: while the journalists in the United States are asleep at the wheel.

Well, guess what! The REST of us are paying attention!! :tinfoilhat: And we KNOW something sinister is going on at the highest reaches of governments, on both sides of the pond.

Thanks, helderheid, for posting this! It just knocks me on my ass.

:kick::kick::kick:

[helderheid]

75. I love this kick - thank you!!

[psychopomp]

70. Truth is stranger than fiction

.....

[TeeYiYi]

72. Thank you for posting. I hadn't seen this yet. . . .

Geez, what a shock that the London bombings were LIHOP/MIHOP Deja Vu all over again. Absolutely shameful.

I'm surprised they haven't found Zarqawi's and Bin Laden's passports in the wreckage yet. Course, it's still early yet.
Maybe if they . . . j_u_s_t . . . k_e_e_p . . . l_o_o_k_i_n_g . . .
TYY:argh:

[helderheid]

76. :)

[Bill Bored]

73. In case you missed it the company name was

Visor Consultants.
http://www.visorconsultants.com/

Thanks for the video!

[rman]

74. BBC 5 archive

BBC 5 radio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/drive.shtml (real audio)
(Listen again to Drive: Thu - starts at ~02:02:30)

[Blue Belle]

77. I think that's it's interesting that he mentions...

that there are a large number of American Banks in that area, and that his clients are concerned with protecting their interests.