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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:14 PM
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More evidence: Japanese are racist?
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 05:15 PM by Nimble_Idea
I remember bringing this up once before and was immediately attacked by broken english people. While we may have that in common, I do not share the racism.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4671687.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3708098.stm

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:17 PM
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1. Spoken like a true butterstinker.
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:46 PM
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13. more like a buttstinker...
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:48 PM
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15. Oh, I was trying to make a little bata-kusai joke
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:17 PM
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2. Sounds like you were vindicated
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 05:23 PM by missb
despite the efforts of the "broken english people". :eyes:

How fascinating.

edited to add the smilie I forgot the first time around.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:19 PM
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3. To say that Japanese are Racist is a racist comment
As far as I know there is not a single country on the planet where there is no racism, so to say that the Japanese are racist because some of them are is a stereotype and therefore racist.
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:35 PM
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8. I agree.
Being Japanese does not equal racist. I am sure there are Japanese who are not racist.
However, there seems to be a disturbing trend here. I wouldn't exactly call Germany around the 1940's a melting pot.
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:37 PM
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9. I wouldn't even call the US of the 2000s a melting pot.
But I don't see the rise of a militant ultra-nationalist Japan as much of a concern at the moment.
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mode13h_net Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:24 PM
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4. My experience in Japan -
I was in and around the area of tokyo for nearly a year and it was overall positive experience. I'm pretty sure though that speaks well for tokyo specifically though. The only issues I had with anyone were competitve martial arts students. I was there to take lessons in bojitsu (6 foot staff and the art of using it) and some were eager to show the american (me) how much tougher the japanese are. So I got alot of bruises. ;)

However I think the fact that I'm european looking probaly sits relatively well in tokyo, but I didn't visist the rest of the country so I can't comment on smaller or more rural areas.
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ClassicDem Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:24 PM
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5. Interesting...
It looks like they have a deep dislike for ethnic Chinese and Koreans, I don't think that makes them racists more like nationalists.
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Vuem Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:26 PM
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6. You better believe it. Especially aganist Koreans.
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dr.zoidberg Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:29 PM
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7. From what I know
Their stereotypes of black persons are not very PC. K-1 fighter Bob Sapp is sort of an example of that. The Japanese do show racist overtones to the Chinese and especially the Koreans.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:37 PM
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10. Who are the "broken english people?" (nt)
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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:47 PM
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14. I don't know
They just attacked me and I couldn't make out some of the things they were saying. It wasn't that they weren't using capitals or punctuations. It's that the verbs and words were just not coming across with the right meaning.

At least with bad grammar and punctuation we can still get the ideas from most DU'ers. These folks who attacked me just didn't make any sense at all.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 06:01 PM
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18. There's One In My House
in spite of our many years together, it's still very challenging to have a discussion w/ my better half. Cheese macaroni, cut the grasses, going for a lung.
As far as racism - I think the Japanese consider themselves to be quite superior. They are not fond of Korean's at all - consider them to be rude and cheap.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:37 PM
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11. Well, it's no secret that the Japanese not only...
treat Koreans who have lived there for generations as second-class citizens, if citizens at all. And they don't even think much of their own native aborigines. They do tend to make race a more important qualifier than many other developed nations.

But, seeing that forms of racial and ethnic discrimination occur all over the world, I can't help but wonder just why you brought this up now?

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Nimble_Idea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:45 PM
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12. Because the article was recent?
I was just surfing and found not
One, BUT TWO articles on it.

I have nothing against the Japanese, I love the Anime(well some of them anyway, some of it is just crazy and a waste of time.)
Hell, why bring up anything at all? Let us all make a commitment not to post anything on DU :P

NOT

:)
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:53 PM
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16. Anyone who lives in Hawaii is better versed in Inter-asian racism
it is true, Koreans are considered like dogs to Japanese.

There is also racism between types of Japanese, particularly the lighter skinned hairless people from Tokyo who conscripted the hairy, bearded, darker skin Okinawans to fight for them in WWII.

And of course this is an element of Japanese culture which is as broad as American and Jewish cultures. The same hierarchy of pinpointing the offending attitude to its specific subgroup like "Likud" in israel or "neocons" in the US applies in this case, as expected.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 05:59 PM
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17. It's safe to say that the Japanese and Korean cultures don't
...embrace diversity. The conformity of the culture and the shying away from people who are different relates to people with handicaps as well as those from different races and cultures. Stereotypical characterizations are readily experienced in Korea. According to Koreans who have suffered at the hands of Japanese imperialism, the Japanese are far worse in this regard.

I find racism alive and well in the US so I don't really know if its any worse in these far eastern nations. The cultural and physical homogeniety seem to make it worse, although I experienced different levels at different social strata just as one does in the states.

All in all, however the Koreans are a very hospitable people and generous to a fault. I expect that the Japanese are much the same. The animus between the two cultures is based upon the recriminations of the past.
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