So Who Gave Rove the Info and Go Ahead?

[stepnw1f]

Could there be a third?

[Booster]

1. My money's on Cheney, but I doubt that will ever come out. If it

does, he'll move to his undisclosed location permanently.

[Cronus Protagonist]

2. Cheney - but Scooter will take the fall for it

The old bastard's mechanical ticker couldn't take the jail time.

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[JDPriestly]

3. There has to be.

There may be more than three. But there are at least two -- Rove and the person he got this information from. Who knows how far the chain goes up? Libby, Cheney, Tenet? It will be interesting because if the prosecutor is honest and diligent, he should be looking for a conspiracy, unless he believes that Rove overheard a remark by chance, and if he believes that, he is too naive to be a prosecutor.

[hughee99]

4. Presumably, Rove has sufficient security clearance

so I wouldn't expect anyone to be in trouble for giving him this information, unless it was for the expressed purpose of leaking it.

[stepnw1f]

6. Did He Have Sufficient Security Clearance During the Time of the Event?

I know he got an official position in the White House recently, but that's all.

[hughee99]

12. I'm not sure what his clearance status was at the time,

but if he didn't have clearance to have that information, and he revealed it, did he commit a crime, or was the crime actually committed by the person with clearance who passed this information on to Rove? I'm not sure about the legalities of this all, but did Novak commit a crime by printing this information, if so, then why hasn't he been charged with passing on classified information? Can someone help me out with this?

[stepnw1f]

13. Read Post #11 (nt)

[hughee99]

14. Interesting, but I was wondering about the legality

of leaking this information. It is clearly illegal for someone with security clearance to leak information to anyone without clearance. Is it illegal for someone without clearance to pass on information that requires clearance?

In insider trading, for example, if I passed on confidential information to an outside party, and they made the information public, I have violated my confidentiality agreement and committed a crime, the person who published the information has not (so long as they didn't use the information to trade before making it public). Is this how classified government information works, or is it illegal to pass on classified information even if your not supposed to know it.

[Duer 157099]

16. I agree that this is the real question

And I read elsewhere that the crime is at the level of the person who is authorized to know the info giving it to unauthorized people -- that an unauthorized person passing the info to another unauthorized person is not the crime.

So the question is whether Rove was authorized.

My guess is they will play on the "it was common knowledge" card so that the real leaker will never have to be revealed.

[blm]

5. Rove and Bush are joined at the hip when it comes to dirty tricks, and

have been for three decades. You'd have to be a practicing ignoramus to believe that Bush didn't know about this. Hell, he probably came up with the idea, himself.

[stepnw1f]

7. That's What I Think...

I also think the whole Administration knew very well what was going on, but played dumb as usual.

[tridim]

8. IMO they had a high level meeting in the WH

and they all decided together to leak Plame's name. They're all in on it.

[rainman99]

9. Oh, what a tangled web they weaved.

[globalvillage]

10. I think Bolton

but it probably goes higher than that.

[TahitiNut]

11. The White House Iraq Group (WHIG) was formed by Card ...

... probably at Cheney's direction.

* Karl Rove
* Karen Hughes
* Mary Matalin
* Jim Wilkinson
* Nicholas Callo
* Condi Rice
* Stephen Hadley
* Scooter Libby

These are the people who conspired to blow Plame's cover.

The claim that they thought she was openly working for the CIA is TOTAL BULLSHIT! She worked for a covert front organization (now also blown) and had NO OPEN CREDENTIALING as an agent for the US government. She was covert all the way ... a field agent, not an analyst ... with contacts (many now dead) in other countries regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction and their trafficking. Of all of the areas of intelligence to expose for partisan political reasons, they chose the one that's (supposedly) most critical.

It's IMPORTANT to note that her role in WMD intelligence may have led to her being able to puncture the balloon of lies the WHIG was fabricating. It's a nuisance to have a field expert that can show when you're defrauding the world.

[orpupilofnature57]

15. It's called "Sycophancy" And that's what these idiot's are all about!

Does it matter, ken starr was like Torquemada, when it came to fellatio,this idiot breaks a law a minute.