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SkyIsGrey Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:05 PM
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Confusion over London bomb drill
This via POAC. http://www.aljazeera.com/me.asp?service_ID=9160

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running a drill exercise for an unnamed company which revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as was happening in real life on July 7th, BBC Radio 5 has revealed.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:06 PM
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1. Something smells FISHY!!!
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:09 PM
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2. Is that why Rudy Giuliano was there????
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:10 PM
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3. An inquiry would be a "ludicrous diversion" says Blair?!
Edited on Mon Jul-11-05 08:10 PM by jsamuel
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:02 AM
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14. Overuse of punctuation marks in first 3 replies??!!???
Seriously, folks:

Giuliani was in London to address, on last Wendesday, the Local Goverment Association annual conference:

http://www.lgib.gov.uk/news/2005/07-Jul-2005-2.html

An inquiry now would disrupt the police investigation, and would prejudice any possible trial of the bombers (British rules on public discussion of evidence are much stricter than American ones).

The fact that Power correctly predicted the targets is a tribute to his company's expertise; if there is an enquiry, it might be relevant to it, since it might show that there were points which were known to be more vulnerable, and should have had higher security. But I don't think this is a very important news story. Not worth multiple exclamation marks, anyway. ;-)
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:23 AM
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15. Using ?! is a very specific punctuation which denotes anexclimatedquestion
Not overused
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 03:55 AM
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16. Is that so?
Great, now you just need to explain what exclimated means to me (and to Merriam-Webster). It may be very specific to you, but I challenge you to find anything that says it's a normal use of punctuation remarks. And you're communicating with the rest of us, not just yourself.
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Frederik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:26 PM
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4. Peter Power: "They are trying to keep it quiet"
Peter Power is the managing director of Visor Consultants, the company that was hired by an (as of yet unnamed) private company to conduct the excercise, and the person who revealed that the excercise had taken place. The following is from a blog written by a journalist at the CBC, who got to ask Mr Power a couple of questions yesterday.

"Afterwards, while escorting Power out of the building, Colman asked why there had not been more media coverage of this rather curious co-incidence - to which Power responded (with a knowing smile) that "they were trying to keep it quiet"."

http://ca.geocities.com/colman@rogers.com/weblog/2005/0...

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:34 PM
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:33 PM
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5. There are a few other threads on this.
And Blair refused, or declined, to have an enquiry.

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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:40 PM
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7. Here is one link.
But the others seem to be vanishing. Unless I am just so out of it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=1917037

There's been discussion of this all day, and of the value/horror of conspiracy theories. So there's been a bit of an argument.

BUt look at this thread. I know there were others.... where have they gone? I could be just being an idiot.



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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:42 PM
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8. Unanswered questions in London bombings
more... ("A long article, but full of juicy details..."
posted by IndianaGreen)>


11 July 2005

Birmingham city centre was closed down Saturday night, and 20,000 people were evacuated for 10 hours. West Midlands Police put up an exclusion cordon around the A38 inner-city ring road, blocking off the city’s Broad Street entertainment district and the city’s Chinese quarter, an area full of pubs, theatres, restaurants, flats and hotels. Four controlled explosions were carried out on a bus on Corporation Street, but officers say the item destroyed had not posed a threat.

Birmingham city centre faced “a real and very credible threat,” West Midlands Chief Constable Paul Scott Lee said. His assistant chief constable, Stuart Hyde, stressed that the police did not believe “that the incident that we are dealing with this evening is connected with the events of 7 July in London.”

On Sunday morning bomb disposal experts declared that a suspect package at the Travelodge Hotel on Broad Street was not a “credible device.”

This is all that is publicly known about a major security alert. The situation is not much better in regard to the London bombings last Thursday that left 49 people confirmed dead and a further 25 unaccounted for. No one knows who committed the atrocity. There are a number of unanswered questions, about which contradictory statements have been made. Factual information previously given out by authorities about the explosions themselves has turned out to be false.

more... (DU Discussion by IndianaGreen)

peace
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:44 PM
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9. I think the 7-7 threads are being moved here:
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:44 PM
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10. There are more locked threads.
It seems like something weird is going on.

Search for London bomb exercise, and you will find the locked threads. or some of them.

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Geek_Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 08:54 PM
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11. CBC source for this story
Here's another source as well

CBC Link

<snip>

Adrian Gordon is the Executive Director of the Canadian Centre for Emergency Preparedness, and Peter Power is Managing Director of a London-based consulting firm that specializes in crisis management, Visor Consultants - which on the morning of July 7 was co-incidentally running a security exercise for a private firm, simulating multiple bomb explosions in the London Underground,

</snip>

I'm wondering if Guiliani was working with this private firm as security consultant and that is what he was doing in London at the time.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:09 PM
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12. Check out this thread.... there are ?'s and we need answers
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bpilgrim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-05 09:30 PM
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13. nominated
thanks :hi:

peace
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 04:18 AM
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17. BBC 5 radio archive:
BBC 5 radio
http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/programmes/drive.shtml (realaudio)
(Listen again to Drive: Thu - starts at ~02:02:30)
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