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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:37 PM
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What the hell has happened the the concept of a political DEBATE?!
Lately they look more like episodes of the dating game or a well dressed episode of Springer.

Another thing...Why in the hell do Democrats keep having to play against their opponant AS WELL AS the Repuke Moderators that keep popping up?!

Who sets this crap up? Rupert Murdoch??
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:38 PM
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1. Who sets this crap up? Rupert Murdoch??
In fact, yes. The last debate was on Fox News.
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:41 PM
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2. True. But it goes beyond that.
Hell even Jeb gets Tim Russert against McBride!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:48 PM
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5. It goes way beyond that! When has there ever been a good
debate, anywhere? A real debate?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:52 PM
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7. Russell & Copelstone in 1948 on the idea of God.
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 10:52 PM by JanMichael
http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/p20.htm

Still not perfect but a game effort on an impossible subject by two good minds.

One. We've had one. Lincoln maybe?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:55 PM
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9. Okay...you go back a ways! Like you asked "Whatever Happened?"
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:00 PM
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10. It was tongue planted firmly in cheek!
I had to double, triple, dip way WAY too far back.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:23 PM
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17. I know! I sensed that "tongue in cheek" thing goin' on!
}( We need a Tongue in Cheek Smiley!
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:25 PM
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19. Good? Dunno. Entertaining? Gore :vs: Perot on Larry King
"let me finish, let me finish" I was ROFLMAO
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Shakeydave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:44 PM
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3. The minions tire quickly.......................
from the overtaxing of their brains! GOD BLESS AMERICA! LAND THAT I LOVE! STAND BESIDE HER AND GUIDE HER, blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah. Blah, blah, blah! Next on Fox News........ George Bush? God or heavenly sent angel? Polls released today show that 87% of Americans believe that the sun is "Good". Geezus, I should go to bed!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:47 PM
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4. I know! It's super Ridiculous and someone should do Something
about it! Why don't they get Guy James to moderate them for chimes sake?
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:48 PM
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6. Since nobody can be trusted why not two Moderators and a firing squad?
Because what's going on now is not condusive to us winning much more than dog-catcher.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 10:53 PM
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8. It's like the twilight Zone of politics...oh yes let's all go get Gouged
by brian williams and gloria borger on corporate cnbc...

We got to start taking the bull by the horns ..
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:07 PM
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11. well, whatever.
10 guys basically talking about how they'll preserve the status quo, when anyone with a working mind can see radical changes are needed in this country.

blow up your TV.

yawn. :boring:

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Shakeydave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:11 PM
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12. WOW!
You should be a Progressive Televangelist! I was screamin' AMEN BROTHER, reading your post! :dunce:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:24 PM
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18. LOL!
:7
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:14 PM
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13. I dont know some of these guys are anti status quo
Kucinich and Sharpton easily no contest.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:18 PM
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15. yes, they are the most 'anti-stautus quo', JK
make that '8 guys discussing preserving the status quo'

you are wise beyond your years, grasshopper. let no man disuade you on your path to enlightenment. :)

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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:18 PM
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14. It's primary season
Edited on Thu Sep-25-03 11:26 PM by depakote_kid
and an unusual one at that. There's a fine line to draw between taking a swat at one's opponents and doing what's right for the pack (or pride). At this point, dominance of the pack and/or pride is at stake, so the way I look at it, expect to see a lot more of this as January looms.

Having Republicans (e.g. the competing pack) moderate is another matter- that bit I don't quite understand. Seeing as how we have all let ourselves become outsiders, perhaps that was our due. Perhaps it's even to our advantage to play on some of their sets for the time being. That remains to be seen. Certainly, no other Dem or Green should ever EVER agree to another debate with Stathom, but that's our candidates' choice, not ours. If there's anything Howard Dean has proven is that we can and I believe that we will win without K street, without associtions of broadcasters, and without revolving door consultants.

I know. I sound idealistic and

of all people, I hate to be trite, but it really is a matter of mousepads, shoe "leather" and hope. Pass it on. Pay a forward.

There's no other tactic that can counteract the far right's inch deep and mile wide hold on American society.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:19 PM
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16. Unfortunately...
90% of Americans don't want to hear a debate get much more in depth than a Jerry Springer show. Very few people today want to think that hard or try to see something that doesn't smack them in the face.

All people care about now is stupid catch phrases and sound bites. We are too lazy of a society to dig deep into stuff. A lot of Americans feel that's the job of the "analysts." Therefore they take the "analysts" word to explain to them what they just saw. It's really sad. Especially since most of those "analysts" are deliberately deceiving them.

We live in the perfect society to get duped by these evil fucks. Just like Germany before WWII.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:27 PM
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20. They certainly are trying to have a replay...
And you're right it is a "perfect society" ...right now. I hoping that will change like things do.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:28 PM
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21. So how would you play it?
I don't mean chess here- just chute & ladders. Republican level thought.
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im4edwards Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:38 PM
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22. it would be nice to see a true debate
it would go a long way toward seperating the wheat from the chaff. I don't think many of them would agree to it. Too dangerous.

Re: the settings, if you pay the piper you call the tune.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-25-03 11:41 PM
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23. Well.....
since the Reptilicans own all the media, they make the rules.

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