4076 dead troops in 799 days of battle says Puerto Rico govt.

[donsu]

http://mediachannel.org/blog/node/96

Number of Iraq Casualties is Double Official Figures, Says Puerto Rican Government


Official US government reports on soldiers under US command killed in Iraq are so fragmented that they account for less than half of the total number, according to information uncovered as part of an inquiry by the Government of Puerto Rico regarding the total number of Puerto Rican war casualties.

This analysis was confirmed by El Diario/La Prensa's review of multiple documents, including official reports issued by the US Department of Defense, the Iraqi Ministry of the Interior and more than 230 battlefront reports, which reveal that more than 4,076 troops under US command have been killed in 799 days of battle.

This information contrasts markedly with the limited information on casualties generally issued by US military authorities, which focus only on US uniformed troops. These total 1,649. Military affairs expert Jose Rodreguez Beruff from the University of Puerto Rico said that the figures showing more than 4,000 dead indicate that, far from winning the war in Iraq, "what is happening is that the troops are being worn down." He said that traditional theorists calculate that for an armed invading force to win a guerrilla war, its casualties should be one to ten of its enemy's. In this case, that would require 40,000 casualties among the insurgents.

In addition, Rodr’guez Reduff warned that the reports should be reviewed on an ongoing basis, as he suspects that the number of casualties is even higher.
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will Dean and the dems jump on this and investigate?


and there is this:

Calculations are even more difficult when it comes to the wounded, which US authorities number at more than 12,600, and medical discharges -- those maimed or suffering from physical and mental injuries -- about whom only partial reports can be obtained. In this category, large discrepancies in counts have been publicized by news outlets such as the national German Press Agency (DPA), which ran a story reporting on US Army documents putting the number of US soldiers with war-related mental ailments at 100,000.

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100,000 mentally ill veterans

THIS IS A CRIME

(I got this report from http://www.oldamericancentury.org/)

[acmejack]

1. You guys are going to make Lynnthedem pull her hair out!

She debunks this several times a day. They have scrupulously documented the deaths.

[donsu]

5. who is "they" that have debunked?

nt

[acmavm]

2. So, it's just not us conspiracy nuts who are saying that the real number

of dead is being hidden from the public?

[bj2110]

3. Disturbing. Even the #'s are being distorted for an agenda... nt

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. Includes 2,000 dead in the Iraqi Army

Last paragraph:

According to documents reviewed by this paper, in addition to the 1,649 fatalities among US uniformed troops, there were 88 from Great Britain, 92 from other coalition member countries, 238 reported by private contractors, and at least 2,000 from members of the Iraqi Army. The biggest defect in published counts is the missing casualties among Iraqi troops under command of the occupying forces.

That's what "under US command" means.

[grumpy old fart]

6. Bingo.....and icasualties already counts them all, even the mercenaries...

http://icasualties.org/oif/

[sintax]

7. Are we too caught up in the numbers game?

The real total will reach into the several hundred thousand to millions of lives who will perish due to war related injuries,maladies,devastation etc. Hunger,disease,depression,creation of toxic wastelands, etc... will lead to uncountable deaths for generations.

The focus on the numbers and details is one of the shortcomings on the left that can lead to paralysis and over analysis.

The Horror

[donsu]

8. these deaths do count and the dems should be shouting and

investigating and exposing and COUNTING.

what you said sounds peculiar and makes no sense:

"The focus on the numbers and details is one of the shortcomings on the left that can lead to paralysis and over analysis."

I disagree.

[sintax]

9. self delete-repeat n/t

[donsu]

11. uncovering the real count would help wake americans up to reality

the real count could be a tipping point

[sintax]

10. Of Course the deaths count, my point is

probably in alliance with what I sense your message is. Part of that point being that the total of deaths is severely underestimated and as in every war undercounted by the Pentagon. The larger point is that we get so caught up in the totals of deaths, costs (which i post daily) etc.. that i feel it can become too abstract. What about the solitary story of a mother who saw her child blown to bits?

Of course we must know the totality but it seems to me that the endless accounting and detailing of say Halliburtons criminal behavior somehow keeps us from deeply seeing the suffering, not that we really can.

Just my view with a thought as to how to get the folks out from behind their screens and into the streets. What's the tipping point? What's the number?

The Horror