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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:15 PM
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John Gibson of Fox News: TRAITOR
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 07:23 PM by Beelzebud
http://www.dembloggers.com/story/2005/7/12/155925/579

Watch this sack of human filth say that Rove should get a medal for outing Plame.

This moron actually says: "Someone needed to out Plame, and Rove was the only one with the cajones to do it!"

Un-fucking-believable.

How low will these people go? Any myth of Fox News being a "news" outlet and not a propaganda outlet, should now be firmly debunked.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:15 PM
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1. TRAITOR
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:42 PM
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90. Does the CIA take all of this lying down?
Maybe Gibson's car will be set on fire mysteriously.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:17 PM
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2. The ignorance that props up this gang is unfuckinbelievable
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:17 PM
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3. Someone needed to 'out' Plame?
What for?

Because she KNEW the Iraq WMD story was bullshit!

Aha!

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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:19 PM
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6. Exactly. Someone needs to tell these knuckle-draggers that there were no
WMD in Iraq. WILSON WAS CORRECT!!!!

That point seems to get lost everytime these idiots start yapping.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:17 PM
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4. TRAITOR
These people hate American, and now are trying to change it to something like Germany WWII.
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:19 PM
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7. Don't say it!!!!!
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:21 PM
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11. Too Late!!!
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:58 PM
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95. tHi Is The proper Long rangE stRategy to take.
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GiovanniC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:00 AM
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98. i kNow... it's AmaZIng, iSn't it?
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 09:00 AM by GiovanniC
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:26 PM
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99. .
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:20 PM
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9. These people don't deserve to live in America.
They are FASCISTS.

Yeah that's right I said it. These people are FASCISTS.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:02 PM
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96. Guyz like Gibson have an agenda $$$ - the more controversy the
bigger the paycheck - the more slime the more attention the higher the paycheck - what are we experiencing right now. it works doesn't it.

Limbaugh-Hannity-O'Reily-Humes-Gibson -- they have an army of these quacks lying to the american people to sway public opinion.

How will Bush reward Rove for all this??

Bush needed that niger < yellow-cake>statement to be included in his speech only to have to retract weeks later.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:18 PM
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5. why did we have to out Plame? Was she balking on the WMD
cause de guerre?

Yep, Feith and Cheney felt they had to remove Plame. She was doing her job. And you know that isn't tolerated on Cheney Planet.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:20 PM
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8. Sounds like he's going for the Bush "Medal of Freedom"
Mission accomplished.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:21 PM
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10. TRAITOR
Contrary to denials and investigation results, I'm going to say some wild-ass thing for my paycheck.

Traitor.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:21 PM
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12. This shows it is the real deal, they are scared
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jean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:21 PM
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13. self delete
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 07:28 PM by jean
:blush:
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Tesla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:23 PM
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16. Oh yeah
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:22 PM
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14. I didn't see it. Don't have TV. What did he mean, that
"someone needed to out Plame." What was he talking about? This might be very important and speak to their real motives, which I suspect were aimed right at Plame and her long time CIA WMD network, the goal of which was to give our government ACCURATE information on WMD proliferation. Cheney and assorted Bush crime lords didn't want accurate info. They wanted cooked info. And they also may have wanted something else--the eyes of honest agents and WMD contacts OFF what THEY were doing with WMDs. See what I mean? Sometimes these whackso let something slip. Did he give any hint?
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lady lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #14
21. Yeah, really. What in blazes does that mean? n/t
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:22 PM
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15. Why did someone need to out Plame?
What possible reason could he come up with for that? She was investigating WMDs at a time when the US was (supposedly) concerned about WMDs! :grr:

Hey Gibson ... you just stated, on a national broadcast, that an UNDERCOVER CIA OPERATIVE needed to be outed. I bet her colleagues are not very happy with you right now. By the way ... there are three rules of the universe:

1) You don't spit in the wind
2) You don't tug on Superman's cape

And ...

3) You never, EVER, piss off the CIA!

Nice knowing ya, John! :hi:

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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:46 PM
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32. Like the DSM's said: 'to fix the intelligence around the policy'
it was all part of the process of manipulating the intelligence to suit the attack on Iraq.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:11 PM
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45. I know that, but Gibson can't possibly offer that as his reason ...
for saying "Someone needed to out Plame"

What I meant was ... what prompted that comment? What reason did Gibson give for his belief that Plame needed to be outed. Oh wait ... this is FOX. He probably didn't give any reason ... he made the statement knowing that his viewers would never dare ask him "why" :eyes:

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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:23 PM
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17. "Somebody had to give informationto the Brits, and only Benedict Arnold
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 07:25 PM by Stirk
had the balls to do it! Hail King George!"
Ancestor of John Gibson
1790
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:23 PM
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18. Ah, just when I think my appall-0-meter can't go any higher
Unbelievable. Just freakin' unbelievable.
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:24 PM
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19. TRAITOR
Stick a flag in his mouth ...
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:24 PM
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20. Here's what I don't get -
Why does nobody personally CALL them on their repugnant bias? Do Faux's "news" personalities flat out refuse interviews or take them under the condition that they not be questioned about their politics?

I'd really love to know how these dickheads can logically be in a profession that's usually supposed to demand real answers from hardball questions and instead televise veiled editorials disgused as news reporting.

I don't know, I think it kind of defeats the whole purpose of being a journalist if it's obvious your objectivity blatantly isn't there.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:25 PM
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22. If Rove didn't out Plame...
There would be no fall guy for the WH crimes.
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frictionlessO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:26 PM
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23. He condones aiding and abetting the enemy??? Wow Faux is really letting
it all hang out lately.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:27 PM
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24. Cool, so they're admitting he "outed Plame"?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:28 PM
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25. Yes. They are reaching new pinnacles of stupidity.
I mean listen to his bravado tone of voice. "Rove was the only one with the cajones to do it!"

What a sick freak. He is bragging about Rove outing a CIA agent...

I'm really in shock on this one. My outrage meter has busted through 10 and is sitting at 11 right now. :P
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:22 AM
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76. Not exactly...
You see, everyone knew that Plame was a CIA agent, but hypothetically if it had been a secret then Rove would have been the only one with the requisite cajones, which is why he kept those cajones so well hidden the last couple of years and didn't admit to being the "leak".
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:29 PM
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26. Is He On The Same Planet We Are? LOL
This one wins the award for the most daffy spin of the day. And the most mean spirited. It wasn't just dead wrong and deceptive, it was vindictive and desperate. To think Roger Ailes didn't see this "commentary" before it hit (hopefully he had enough time to finish it) is looking through Gibson's vapid eyes and see whose really behind those words and what they're meant to do.

This is damage control...red meat for the Wingnuts to keep them from asking real questions. Be assured this meme and "commentary" has already worked through the Freeper universe and has been aborbed into the blogs. Valerie Plame and Joe Wilson were out to get this nation...THEY were the Traitors. :puke:

Now, if that were the case, and both Plame and Wilson wanted to sabotage this corrupt regime...they had this knowledge and surely had many "friends" and sources that could have leaked a story that the Niger yellow cake claims were phony...as was other intel (Colin Powell...where are you???) why did they wait until a year after the invasion and months after Bunnypants SOTU to come forward? C'mon, riddle me that one, Batman...
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:13 AM
Response to Reply #26
82. right, just red meat for the dogpack...
needs to have no justification to sell. No logic. Black is white, up is down. Sieg Heil
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:31 PM
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27. TRAITOR
Fucking Fox Mouthpiece for BushCo.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:36 PM
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28. Are they grooming Gibson to replace fading-star O'Reilly? Or...
has Gibson just lost his mind?
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:36 PM
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29. Gibson Is Soft On TREASON!!!
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 07:37 PM by K8-EEE
What an assbite!!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:38 PM
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30. If a Democratic president is elected he should be hit with an IRS audit
IRS audits can shut up mouthy people like Gibson real fast.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:44 PM
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31. How can anyone in their right mind say outing a CIA agent is a good thing
he needs to be fired. Pro treason journalist are not welcome in the United States.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:47 PM
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33. Gibson believes in Benedict Arnold!!! the Brits loved him but
he died a traitor!!! Be careful John Be very careful!!!
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #33
57. Isnt Gibson the POS that
said that he wished the French had gotten the olympics over the Brits so that Paris would have gotten bombed or something like that?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:04 PM
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58. Yep. it's the same guy.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:45 AM
Response to Reply #33
79. Actully the Brits didn't love
Benedict arnold. After all, no one trusts a traitor-not even the side he went to.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:51 PM
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34. Wingnuts said the same thing about Lee Harvey Oswald
Never forget the type of vicious partisan right-wing nuts we are dealing with. These are the same people that said the very same thing about Lee Harvey Oswald after the Kennedy's assassination. Their vindictiveness and hackery knows no limits.

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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:58 PM
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35. This guy is unbelievable.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:58 PM
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36. It's time for faux to have a du attack :)
speakout@foxnews.com
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:02 PM
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40. Done.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #36
46. here's what I sent, I tried to speak their language so they would
understand. Used their phrases, no big words:rofl:

America is a nation at WAR - remember 9-11???
Valerie Plume was in Africa as an undercover agent monitoring the amount of yellow-cake uranium leaving that country. She was protecting us from the possibility of WMDs being used against Americans.

So what does Karl Rove do? He discloses her identity.
During a time of war. While she was protecting the homeland. If this isn't treasonous, then I don't know what is.

And John Gibson calls him a hero??????
Valerie Plame was the hero. Karl Rove belongs behind bars.

Fox news should be ashamed of Gibson's remarks.
This is not politics. This is about the safety of the United States of America during the War on Terror!
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 07:59 PM
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37. I have NEVER in my ENTIRE LIFE
Heard a BIGGER PILE BULLSHIT that was EVER UTTERED BY A HUMAN BEING.

Somebody should had taken a baseball and brained RIGHT ON THE AIR.

UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!!!!

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:00 PM
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38. contact addresses.....
This really is too.. too.. much. Gibson is on al Qaida's payroll!

Fox News Channel
1211 Ave. of the Americas
New York, NY 10036
Phone: (212) 301-3000
Fax: (212) 301-4229
comments@foxnews.com

FOX News Channel Show E-Mail Addresses

After Hours
Afterhours@foxnews.com FOX Report with Shepard Smith
Foxreport@foxnews.com



At Large with Geraldo Rivera
Atlarge@foxnews.com
Hannity & Colmes
Sean Hannity
Hannity@foxnews.com

Bulls & Bears
Bullsandbears@foxnews.com Hannity & Colmes
Alan Colmes
Colmes@foxnews.com

Cashin' In
Cash@foxnews.com Heartland w/ John Kasich
Heartland@foxnews.com

Cavuto on Business
Cavuto@foxnews.com On the Record with Greta
Ontherecord@foxnews.com

DaySide with Linda Vester
Dayside@foxnews.com Special Report with Brit Hume
Special@foxnews.com

Forbes on FOX
Forbes@foxnews.com Studio B with Shepard Smith
Studiob@foxnews.com

FOX & Friends
Friends@foxnews.com The Beltway Boys
Beltway@foxnews.com

FOX Magazine
Foxmagazine@foxnews.com The Big Story with John Gibson
Myword@foxnews.com

FOX News Live
Feedback@foxnews.com The O'Reilly Factor
Oreilly@foxnews.com

FOX News Live Weekend
Feedback@foxnews.com War Stories
Warstories@foxnews.com

FOX News Sunday
FNS@foxnews.com Your World with Neil Cavuto
Cavuto@foxnews.com

FOX News Watch
Newswatch@foxnews.com


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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
41. I agree. This is over the line for even Fox News.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:01 PM
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39. TRAITOR
3rd rate propagandist and collaborator in crimes against America.

Cue Donald Trump....
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:03 PM
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42. Was there any further commentary to explain why she NEEDED it?
I'm actually shocked by this. How can anyone defend a treasonous act?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:04 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. Watch the video. He elaborates. And it all comes off completely insane.
This guy is nuts. ...And a traitor.

Basically he says she "needed it" for trying to smear Bush about WMD's in Iraq. You know. The WMD THAT DON'T EXIST!!!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:22 PM
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50. I knew Fox was fucked up but gods that is way over the line.
It's hard to believe that's even real. He comes off like a lunatic. And what's with that smirk on his face?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:10 PM
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44. Majority Report just played the audio!
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:18 PM
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47. Gibson calls Wilson a "peacenik".
Do these words, from Joe Wilson, sound like the words of a "peacenik"?

In 1990, while sheltering more than a hundred Americans at the U.S. Embassy and diplomatic residences, he briefed reporters while wearing a hangman's noose instead of a necktie -- a symbol of defiance after Hussein threatened to execute anyone who didn't turn over foreigners.

When asked why, he replied:

"If you want to execute me, I'll bring my own fucking rope."
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:19 PM
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48. Come on CIA lets get this guy
if he says its alright to out Plame, then he must think its alright if any one of you were outed. Lets hope he doesn't know your identity. Get this bastard now, He is one of our enemies.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:21 PM
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49. Not only is Gibson a traitor, he's completely misrepresenting the facts.
The Senate Intelligence Committee report (not to be confused with the 9/11 Commission report, which doesn't mention Wilson or Niger) did not "debunk" Wilson's report in any way, shape or form. A partisan addendum authored by Roberts, Bond and Hatch takes issue with a few minor points of Wilson's report, but does not challenge its essence--that there's no compelling evidence that Saddam tried to acquire uranium from Niger. Gibson is the lowest of the low--a propagandist posing as a journalist. May he contract an incurable strain of gonorrhea.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:26 PM
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67. He put more crudely what other spinners imply
That whoever let it be known Wilson's wife was with the CIA had to do it to put Wilson's report in context. Just a junket set up by his wife for this unqualified liberal whose report was discredited, he is no one to listen to. "Outing" her was just putting it in context and then they go into how there was no crime at all.

I didn't hear gibson but I'm sure the medal is about someone having to show why this man went there and didn't have to be listened to.

The RNC Chairman is on shows saying all these things too so it must be the talking points. He was actually corrected when he said the report was false, discredited. The interviewer interrupted to say that no it wasn't discredited, just not conclusive.

They really are spinning and still trying to discredit Wilson, his motives and qualifications and his report. Some even say the report supported bush, some say he slammed bush IN the report (not after Niger was used in war speech). Some have said if it was such a big secret why did she tell Wilson when they were just dating, no wonder everyone knew.

I turned CNN on at about 3 PM today and ended up keeping it on for hours as it seemed like the 24 hour Rove station and only Republican spinners were dismissive, not the news people. Amazing.

I am hoping it is breaking the dam, that wall of unquestioning and it leads to harder looks on all the issues.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:43 PM
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51. Here's part of the email I just sent him.
Sir,
You must have been mistaken when you said that Karl Rove deserved a medal for the outing of CIA undercover agent Valerie Plame. As you well know, Mr. Rove's motivation for revealing her name was as retaliation for her husband Joe Wilson's exposing that the story about Iraq's attempts to purchase uranium from Niger for nuclear weapons (mentioned in George W. Bush's State of the Union address) was false. This 'knowingly' false information was one of many pieces of 'false' information used as a reason for going to war pre-emptively with Iraq.

Rove does deserve metal however, in the form of handcuffs, when he is marched out of the White House in disgrace and under arrest for his treasonous and duplicitous acts against the good people of the United States of America. He is traitor afterall.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. Well put.
Congrats.

Take care,

Peace,
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:52 PM
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53. does that pasty faced piece of shit
just say what pops into that empty skull or is he actually allowed to spew that crap by his producers?:wtf:
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:52 PM
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54. Obstructing the Public's View
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 08:58 PM by stepnw1f
of the truth. The mainstream media has become a payed-for-hire PR firm.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:53 PM
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55. They are the Neo-Pravda.
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carpediem Donating Member (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 08:57 PM
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56. GOP: Soft On Treason n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:06 PM
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:09 PM
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60. For John Gibson of Fox News to say that "Someone needed
to out Plame," is not a traitorous act. Fox News is not an American News outlet. Now if Plame had been an Australian covert operative, then it would have been traitorous.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:25 PM
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62. presumably John Gibson is an American.
so. . .
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:32 PM
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63. In the employ of foreign agents.
so...
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:49 PM
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91. wasn't Benedict Arnold in the employ of foreign agents?
you're making my point for me.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:57 PM
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100. So is it Benedict Gibson, or John Arnold?
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:20 PM
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61. Nice how they rewrite history
NOT! So now it is a good idea to "out" undercover agents when it comes to presidental lies? My my my.
:wtf:
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 09:54 PM
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64. Here's my letter to Fox "news"
Fox "News" person John Gibson has made many egregious, right-wing-biased statements (what a surprise!) but his comment today about Karl Rove being "the only one with the cojones" to out Valerie Plame, is outrageous to say the least. It may even cross the line into treason on its own merits - how special!
The White House repeatedly denied that Rove was involved (although many have long suspected otherwise) and now it appears that this administration has lied to the American people yet again about an issue of national security. Bush stated unequivocally that anyone in his administration found to be involved in this incident would be no longer a part of it. If Bush has any clue as to the meaning of the words "honor and dignity" he must stand by that statement.
John Gibson is pathetic in his assertion that Rove deserves a medal. What, like George Tenet, who did such a terrible job as CIA director that he was fired, yet was later awarded the nation's highest civilian honor?? I think not.
We are supposedly at war against terrorism. It's obvious that the terror the Bush administration fears most is truth. Valerie Plame was serving her country honorably by providing truth to those in power. Those in power chose to ignore that truth since it was not "fixed around the policy." Now Rove has been outed himself, and the size of his cojones is microscopic compared to those of Judith Miller, who chose honor and jail.

Carl Cameron should have been fired for his fake "news" story about John Kerry. Brit Hume should be fired for inhuman indecency for saying that his first thought after the bombings in London was, "Hmmm, time to buy." (How telling. And how very Republican of him.) O'Reilley is nothing more than an arrogant, loudmouthed shill for the right wing. And now comes Gibson's latest outrage. You ought to be sued for false advertising for your little "fair and balanced" tagline; what a joke. Your station marches in lock-step with the right wing extremists who are running this country I love straight into the ground.
Fox's output should best be described as fraudcast.

If you have any regard for integrity, truth, journalistic standards, or common American decency, Gibson will be summarily and publicly dismissed. Then it might be time for the rest of the "news" crew there to pay some attention to the same ideals. They are sorely absent in all of you.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:03 PM
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65. TRAITOR JOCK STRAP
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 10:10 PM
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66. That little flag with *'s picture on it......buried in a pile of Shit....
Needs to be updated. We need a John Gibbons model.

:crazy:
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:45 AM
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81. I love your tribute to Andy on your sig
Thanks for that.

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:50 PM
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94. It's borrowed with permission.
You may do the same. I still have him in my address book. It's hard to believe there is not going to be a reply anymore.

:cry:
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:48 PM
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68. Anybody who thinks Faux "news" reports any news is a moron
An idiot moron to be specific.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-12-05 11:54 PM
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69. Hey Buddy!
Edited on Tue Jul-12-05 11:55 PM by impeachdubya
Fuck YOU and your sack of shit "News" Network.

Shithead.

Edit: Oh, Yeah, TRAITOR, too.
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:33 AM
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70. I see a bigger picture here.
I think this is not just a case of discrediting the Wilsons, but of trying to discredit the entire CIA. I am around a lot of Repubs (yeah, I'm in IN) who have nothing good to say about the CIA. By starting here, they are trying to spin a wedge through the public's view of the CIA.

Just my $.02

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Robbie Michaels Donating Member (612 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:05 AM
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71. The Problem With John Gibson...
is that every time he opens his mouth, something stupid falls out. This "news reporter" never fails to amaze me. With people like him employed by the mainstream media, I can understand why people confuse bloggers for being part of the press corps. We're doing their job for them!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:17 AM
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72. Any body have the address for the CIA?
I will send them Gibson's statement.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:29 AM
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73. Traitor! A scumbag traitor! n/t
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:30 AM
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74. It's part of a common pattern
I had a rather RW friend and she used this tactic from time to time and now I've seen other wingernuts do it on TV and in the internet. Once, in the ninties, it became obvious that many of the new Republican congressmen were rather crude in manner. When I pointed it out to my friend at first she denied it, then finally admitted their behavior was rude and vulgar, but said, Maybe rude and vulgar behavior are what we need.

When the story about Rush's criminal drug abuse came out it was the same thing. Oh, no, Rush would never do such a thing! Somehow, in the end, he bacame a victim and then a hero.

They deny, attack the source of information, minimize the charges, and sometimes spin the horrid into a positive.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 05:31 AM
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75. Repulsive sociopathic pus-filled maggot-brained TRAITOR nt
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:26 AM
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77. OH WHAT A PIECE OF CRAP!
TRAITOR INDEED!

Lu
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:31 AM
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78. Like Ann Coulter,.John Gibson is clearly a liberal
pretending to be a conservative in order to discredit the Right. Nobody can be that stupid.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 07:54 AM
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80. There ought to be a law against FOX news. n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:14 AM
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83. Hey, John Gibson: WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?
And I say that WITHOUT metaphorical tongue in cheek.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:42 AM
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84. What justification was given for the need to out a covert CIA agent?
Why did someone have to out this Covert Agent? Did the outing save America from the proliferation of WMDs, since that was what she was engaged in. I think he needs to be called on this and the sooner the better. this must be nipped in the bud NOW.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:53 AM
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85. So it's ok to undermine our nation's security??
It's ok to want to see this country harmed with WMDs?

I guess it's ok with John Gibson if I kick his sorry ass if I see him on the street.

:mad:


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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:57 AM
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86. My Letter (Emailed to Gibson and Snailed to FOXNews)
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 09:58 AM by MJDuncan1982
July 13, 2005

To Whom It May Concern:

This morning (Wednesday, July 13, 2005), on FOXNews.com, I read John Gibson’s article Karl Rove Should Get A Medal. The publication concerned the allegation that Karl Rove blew the cover of Valerie Plame. Mrs. Plame was an undercover agent working for the CIA. In his article, Mr. Gibson says that she “should have been outed by somebody.” An employee of your network is advocating the outing of a member of the intelligence community. This is an unforgivable position to take. The United States is engaged in an international war on terror and it is not conducive to the security of this nation to have members of the President’s staff blowing the cover of our undercover agents.

Mr. Gibson’s rationale is that Mrs. Plame sent her husband, Joe Wilson, to Niger to investigate a claim made by the government that Saddam Hussein had at one point attempted to purchase ‘yellow cake,’ a possible ingredient for WMD, from that country. Mr. Gibson claims that Mr. Wilson was “opposed to the war in Iraq” and that this is the reason that his wife sent him to Niger. Mr. Gibson says that Mrs. Plame deserves to be outed because her actions can be viewed as “an attempt to influence national policies.”

Giving Mr. Gibson the benefit of the doubt and assuming that everything he claims about Mrs. Plame and Mr. Wilson is true, his view is still utterly reprehensible. These are issues that need to be dealt with within the CIA and/or intelligence community. The one way that I am sure is NOT the way to deal with such a situation is by revealing the identity of a member of the United States intelligence community.

Mr. Gibson says that where he comes from, the identity of Mrs. Plame should be revealed. Mr. Gibson must not come from the United States because in this country you do not work against national security and undermine our war on terror.

I recommend that Mr. Gibson, at the very least, be reprimanded for his comments and, most appropriately, be fired.

Respectfully,
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:58 AM
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87. I'm sure he's fighting on the front lines
fucking piece of chickenhawk filth.
http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues/479723
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johannes1984 Donating Member (210 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 11:30 AM
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88. helas , the numbskuls are getting dumber


It's not only going to sound pathetic when there's a dem in the white house , it's going to be a great reminder why people should NEVER AGAIN vote republican .
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 12:38 PM
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89. Congressman King also says Rove should get a medal
I posted this in the New York forum, 'cause Congressman King is from there.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=169x3766

King appeared on Joe Scarborough's Nazi Country show last night (July 12, 2005) when he said this and other outrageous stuff, such as: let's shoot Tim Russert and the media.

Sounds like another culty talking point. These radical wingers all sing from the same hymnal.

Here's a link to the Nazi Country show's transcript:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8551822/
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 03:52 PM
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92. Faux has NO regard for truth. I will NEVER watch their programming.
They are an abomination to democracy. They are a disgrace to this nation.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 04:00 PM
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93. my short letter to myword@fox
Wow, you are an idiot.

I find it deplorable that you think outting a CIA operative is a good thing. You need to do some reading buddy because your "looks" wont last forever (or whatever got you that job).

It's appalling that you think putting people's lives in jeopardy is less important than following the party line.

Shame on you.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:57 AM
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97. What a bastard!!
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