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TNDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:41 AM
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How did Rove have access to Plame's identity?
I keep asking this in threads but can't get an answer. I know it has probably been discussed here but I have missed it (hard to keep up with 72,000 people posting).
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:42 AM
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1. That's the real issue
and nobody knows the answer, except maybe Patrick Fitzgerald and Judith Miller.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:44 AM
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2. I'll just betcha Fitzgerald's asking that question too.
And hey - that would be a good one for one of the WH Press Corps to toss at Scottie next briefing!;-)
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:47 AM
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3. I did read some theory
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:50 AM by kansasblue
about it on an Air Force One flight and that they were getting the record of calls from that flight.

check this

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0305-02.htm
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:48 AM
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4. He was part of the
White House Iraq Group (WHIG).
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:50 AM
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6. Members of WHIG
included Scooter Libby, Karen Hughes, and Ari Fleisher as well.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:48 AM
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5. Here is a post from last night:
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:50 AM by rumpel
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:54 AM
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7. That's what I want to know, too
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:54 AM by Jack Rabbit
Rove had help in exposing Ms. Plame. A political hatchet man, even one with a fancy title like senior White House adviser (later to become deputy White House chief of staff), doesn't normally concern himself with who's who in Langley and which diplomat is sent on a special assignment to Niger.

Who put him up to this? Who are Rove's co-conspirators? It doesn't even seem likely that Rove hatched the plot.

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:55 AM
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8. It's all related to the
attempt to fix intelligence. Those responsible for that are responsible.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 10:27 AM
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12. I agree
The motive in this crime was to discredit Wilson after he demonstrated how the White House either ignored or dissembled his work in Niger. This was just one instance of how it was done; if we had no reason to believe there were others, the mishandling of Wilson's report and the inclusion of the infamous sixteen words in the 2003 SOTU would have been written off as human error and this story would have blown over long ago.

Unfortunately for the Bushies, all of their supposed facts about Iraq were wrong. All of them. Not just wrong, but wildly wrong. Saddam had neither weapons of mass destruction nor working ties to Islamist terror groups, as they claimed. There is no evidence that Saddam was "reconstituting" (Mr. Cheney's word) his nuclear program.

When one takes a multiple choice examination where each item has four possible answers, even marking random answers without reading the question should get one a score of about 25%; if he scores a perfect zero, he must have been trying to flunk. On an essay exam, if the student is asked to explain Darwin's theory of evolution and gives an expose on intelligent design, he will fail because he did not follow the directions.

That is what the neocons were doing. Their instructions, standing from the founding of the republic as a matter of public trust, were to look at reality and then decide whether or not they needed to involve the US in a war against Iraq. Instead, they made a decision to go to war -- they had long desired a war with Iraq as a device to further their wet dream of empire in a New American Century -- and then looked for reasons to justify it. If one has any confidence in the argument being made or evidence to support it, one wouldn't even think of setting up a monstrosity like the OSP in the Pentagon. The case was "thin" (according to the Downing Street document) so they fixed intelligence and facts around the policy, that is to say, fabricated facts and dissembled intelligence.

Wilson simply found himself caught up in this messy business. It was his work that got twisted and he wasn't going to take it laying down. There are no doubt many intelligence analysts who are just as offended as Wilson who have jobs to lose and are not speaking out.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:56 AM
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9. IMHO, there's still a lot to be uncovered.
If the MSM stay true to their actions of recent weeks and the special prosecutor doesn't let his fall through the cracks, then a lot more will come of this.

Also, IMHO, I think that B*shco is currently trying to figure out how to keep the key figures (W, Dickless, Rummy & KKKarl) away from indictment and let everybody else take the fall.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:02 AM
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10. First thought that pops up: Cheney's frequent visits to the CIA.
Second thought: Cheney is keeping a really low profile.

Third thought: BushCo really worked hard at thinning out the CIA.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:03 AM
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11. I think just about everything
can be traced to his office.
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