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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:28 PM
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Biden said he wished he had a Karl Rove in his back pocket???
Just heard that on Randi Rhodes. Well, I won't even consider voting for him in the Democratic primary's now. Not that I was considering it in the first place.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:29 PM
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1. I have no friggin' idea what his problem has been lately.
He seems to be falling all over himself to appear Bush-Lite.

Like that's going to win any votes in 2008 after all the Bush fatigue.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:30 PM
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2. rover's not intelligent...he's just willing to do whatever it takes
That's the only reason he's gotten as far as he has. He latched onto GW like lice on a dog, played every dirty trick in the book and them some.

I can see Biden's jealousy :sarcasm: I won't vote for him either.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:37 PM
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10. I agree 100%
He is obviously not that smart. He has some good political instincts but his policy ideas are a flop. I assume pushing Private Social Security and the War and many other things that are flopping, had heavy influence from Rove. He is someone who thinks he is the smartest man in the world because everything seemed to go his way until now, as everything he touched is FALLING APART!!!! He will go down is the greatest scumbag in the history of our Country when all is said and done.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:32 PM
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3. are you honestly saying you wouldn't want a great Dem strategist?
Is there some sort of virtue in losing elections? Biden's point, I'm sure, is that Rove is a smart SOB. He got the worst president in American history re-elected. The Republicans know how valuable he is, which is why they are going to defend him to the end. If Kerry had a political handler of Rove's ability, he'd be president now.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:35 PM
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7. rove does whatever it takes..
he doesn't care who gets hurt in the process. rover's got a history of going beyond what's acceptable when it comes to politics. He outed a CIA agent to discredit Wilson. Not much brains behind that.

And as far as the election goes...bush got it because of 9/11.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:36 PM
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9. I guess we need a few consultants as dumb as Rove then
because he gets his candidates elected.

He does do whatever it takes, which is why he, hopefully, will be going to jail.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:38 PM
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12. He had to smear Kerry and McCain's war records, too
He's an underhanded bastard.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:40 PM
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13. Rat Bastard is my favorite...
:hi:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:41 PM
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15. he's been dirty since he ran for pres of the College Republicans
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:42 PM by imenja
all of his campaigns have been dirty. The book Bush's Brain outlines some of his tactics. It's wishful thinking on my part, but I'd like to see him get 25 years like Ebbers did.


It is possible to be an underhanded bastered and a smart strategist at the same time, you know.

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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:47 PM
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19. He planted bugs in a Republican campaign office and blamed it
on the Democrats. The list is a MILE LONG on the type of crap he pulls. It's one thing to have a smart political strategist who plays tough as hell but Rove players below the belt ALL THE TIME!

It's possible that Biden was thinking more about Roves political skills but if he is not aware of the evil stuff Rove does then he docent read much.
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O.M.B.inOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 09:14 PM
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23. it's not brain; it's lack of scruples coupled with frat prank cleverness
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:32 PM
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4. Hey...is that Karl Rove in Joe Biden's pocket?
Or is he just happy to see KKKarl walkin' the plank?

(Sorry Quixote1818! I just couldn't restrain myself. :evilgrin: )

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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:32 PM
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5. Hell, I wish the Dems had a Karl Rove in their pocket too!
I know it's wrong to WIN no matter how, but I also believe you have to fight your enemy with the same kind of weapons that are being used against you!

We've all mostly agreed that all politicians are motivated by the corporate $$, so how wrong is it really to tell lies and start rumors about your opposition? Basically that's what Rove's been dining isn't it?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:35 PM
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8. not me...we don't need that type n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:34 PM
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6. He wants to unite America, you know
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:38 PM
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11. I'm no fan of Biden
but I think he just means he'd rather have a good political advisor.

Instead our party is stuck with the likes of Bob Shrum.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:40 PM
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14. He has got to know Roves track record though. But you could be right
nt
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:41 PM
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16. I think Biden travels around with his own camera and microphone.
He's all about face time. Makes me sick.:puke:
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colbushwhacker_2000 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:43 PM
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17. Biden is a Stupid Fuck
I live in Iowa, Sioux City, and I am gonna do all that I can to stop this stupid prick, if he dares show his face in this part of my state.....he is no better than the asswipe Bu$h.
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ClusterFreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:49 PM
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22. Welcome to DU!!
Nice swear-riddled 1st post!!!!:headbang:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:45 PM
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18. Howard Dean said the same about Frank Luntz
plenty of reasons not to like Biden, but statements like this are throwaway lines.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:48 PM
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20. bullshit, i didnt read the replies, i didnt hear what you are talking, but
Edited on Wed Jul-13-05 08:49 PM by seabeyond
i do know i just saw biden on an interview saying what rove did was a bunch of bullshit and went on and on about how wrong it was and how wrong bushco was not taking care of the dude

to suggest he is supporting this guy is wrong

please clarify. that is just TO contradictive of what i heard the man say

often i hear people say things about biden in interpretation, that when i heard him he didnt say it at all
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jmcon007 Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-13-05 08:48 PM
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21. Close....it's called an asshole.
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