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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:40 AM
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So when DID Rove tell the Chimp that he was the "source?"
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 12:41 AM by BullGooseLoony
Chimpy came out two years ago and said that he was going to find out who blew Plame's cover, right? So when did Rove, as Chimpy's closest advisor, fess up to Bush?

And what did Bush do to reprimand him? Give him a stern talking to?

Or...was Rove just lying to/keeping it from Bush? And, since Bush was on this crusade to find the "real killer"...or whatever...is it acceptable that Rove would keep something so huge from him? Shouldn't he be fired for that, at least?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:42 AM
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1. Rove can't be expected to inform the help about everything he does. nt
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tibbiit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:42 AM
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2. he didnt have to tell him
bush was in on it from the get go imo.
you know how jon stewart imitates bush? with his snickering laugh... thats what rove and bush were doing when they cooked up with the others the outing of a cia agent for political gotcha.
tib
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col_klink Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:46 AM
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3. Rove is a loyal soldier
My guess is he shielded Bush. If necessary, Rove will fall on his sword.

These guys will pretty much do whatever it takes for the long term. Individuals don't matter. Anyway, you can bet Rove will land on his feet. :(
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:49 AM
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6. This is their best case scenario. I'm just using their premises.
Pointing out the inconsistencies.

Basically, what I'm saying is that even with what they're saying- which is just a bunch of lies- Rove has still committed acts that would necessitate his termination.

He either deceived the POTUS, or he didn't. And, if he didn't...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:26 AM
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14. Hi col_klink!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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chookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:48 AM
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4. My take (and why)
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 12:55 AM by chookie
His Chimperial Highness is most likely a member of the conspiracy to get to Joe Wilson by outing his CIA wife.

Why? From the first, when the chimp has been asked, he has ALWAYS maintained, that if someone in the WH "DELIBERATELY" (insert sneer) leaked, they would be fired, etc. Meaning, he knew and was party to the revelation, but designed a cover your ass scenario in which they would claim that poor Karl was just a dummy to say so, no meanin' any harm. In my view, Bush was part of the conspiracy to embarass Wilson, and gave Karl the high sign to do so. The word "deliberately" comes from Gonzalez, a gift from the Chief Counsel to Monkey Boy, and that's the word they're taking to the bank.

Bush has known this all along -- or else why such careful language? Hey, I mean, he's gotten away with everything else, so why not this too?
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BCBud Donating Member (38 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:40 AM
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12. He's usually not great with language...
... so when he is you know he made a point of it. I thought i noticed a snear too.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:48 AM
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5. When did Libby tell ANYONE he knew Rove was the source?
(... and he was, too.) Cooper's testimony says he called Libby the next day to verify Plame.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:50 AM
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8. Novak said he had two senior administration sources, too. nt
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:54 AM
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9. And Who Does Scooter Work For? Huh Huh? LOL
Oh how we all want a Crashcart on a stake here!

I can just see all these guys sittin' around Karl's kitchen as he fixes up some of them vittles he does for his Washington lapdog corporate Press Puppies (Candy gets TWO servings) while Dick goes over the plan and Bunnypants is busy twiddling his pasta. Cue to the soundtrack of The Godfather...

Next...Bunnypants gets upset at a phone call, hops in the car and is stuck at a tollbooth.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:49 AM
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7. Rove wouldn't out a CIA agent without
permission. Simple as that. Whatever tricks and evil stuff he does has to be run past the boss for approval. Bush knew from the get-go.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:57 AM
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11. I think so too
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 12:57 AM by FreedomAngel82
Bush probably told him to find a way to make it to where they could go to jail and Cheney was going over to the CIA a lot so he possibly could've known that Plame had the information from Wilson about the non-existance WMD stuff that they claimed to be getting. So once they found that out Rove and Cheney made up a plan and told Bush and Bush okay'd it. Everything is connected and leads up to Bush.
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funflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 12:55 AM
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10. Coupla days before he told Novak.
:crazy:
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:38 AM
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13. I hear that nobody in the WH has ever asked Rove about it.
They "don't want to know".
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