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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:34 AM
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Children died today (warning: graphic photos)






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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:45 AM
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1. And that will be Bush's legacy
Day after day as he kills our innocents and Iraqi innocents. That will be his legacy. Death of innocents without cause.

He won't even allow our dead coming home to be shown.

His freedom march is a bunch of sh--. He's there for global profits. He disgusts me beyond belief. The cultists who believe in him disgust me beyond belief.

And the little ones die, because he has willed it so.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:48 AM
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2. Isn't it fucked up we can see Iraqi dead, but not the American dead? n/t
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:53 AM
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3. W wants to keep the war machine energized
He doesn't want the reality of his decisions imaged.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:03 AM
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4. One day in Murka, I fear,
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 02:03 AM by fortyfeetunder
these pictures will be of our young children, that is we will see terrorism like this in our streets.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:00 AM
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9. That is what I'm afraid of...
How long before suicide bombers start riding our trains and busses?? I look at my 2 children and think, "What kind of America is it going to be for them?"

Man...they are so sweet and innocent. I get tears in my eyes just thinking about it. Those pictures make me very, very sad and very angry.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:09 AM
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5. More freedom on the march.

Iraqis are free to die.
Iraqis are free to march to the grave.
Isn't the American freedom we are bringing to the Iraqis grand?
:cry:


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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:18 AM
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6. was that from the suicide bomber?
Does anybody know where that's from? Collateral damage? suicide bomber?
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:26 AM
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8. A GI was handing out candy and toys to children
The suicide bomber hit them and killed the GI and many children.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:20 AM
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26. And whence the suicide bomber
Not logical, even suicide bombers know about PR!
Negroponte, propaganda!?!?
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pengu1n Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 02:24 AM
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7. Angry...beyond words
Looking at those pictures makes me so angry I could weep....

I have 4 Kids, they are the most precious things I have in this world. If an invading army came, and murdered one of them, I would make it my life goal to focus on bringing justice to their killers.

US and UK troops are involved in one of the most disgusting, immoral, indefensible wars of aggression - now being waged against a civilian population. Last century should have seen the end of this state sponsored terror.

We, the public at home are guilty by association - because we do not call our governments to account for their crime. Do you think the father above sees a distinction between Rep or Dem, Left or Right. He sees only Christian Killers.

Until we stop our leaders and military corporate complex, bring some of them to trial - and show the victims some redress - we are no better than the murderers we allow to act for us.

We kid ourselves that this is not done in our name. It bloody well is in our name!

What to do....we have no democracy, or International court that works.

I made the decision last year that my taxes would not support my governments evil policies any more.

I have moved my family to a neutral country - one of the least aggressive military nations on this planet.

I do not contribute to this madness any longer. I have turned my back on my country in shame.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:18 AM
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13. Welcome to DU
I have three children I gave birth to,and had a hand in raising two much younger brothers. It matters not a bit to me what race, or color, or sex a child is, the impulse to protect and nurture the little ones is part of my very being.

Do some people here in the U.S. think that Iraqis feel less grief, mourn less, or cry fewer tears because their skin is a different color? The cabal of greedy and arrogant men, determined to lay waste to a whole country in order to steal it's resources, is one of the most evil acts ever committed.

I burn with shame, that our country has come to this; I seethe with anger that so many of my fellow citizens would rather install the war-mongering Smirk, rather than face the fact that gays are human, deserve the same rights, and want only to have legal protection for their unions. So, in order to prevent gay marriage, and equal rights, and freedom of choice for women, some are willing to endure a man who would destroy every Iraqi in the world, rather than let his cronies down.

Truly, truly, the most sickening thing I've ever seen. These are children, the ones we have been programmed to protect, and we see them dying gruesome deaths and shrug, and parrot the line that at least it's their children dying, and we're not fighting them here.

Yet. That day will come, there is no stopping it. I hate these neocon barbarians...will our country ever be able to atone for the Bush years?
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:51 AM
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22. These parents will have lifelong sorrow over the loss of
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 12:52 AM by anitar1
their children. I cannot begin to imagine what they are going through. They are total victims with no recourse. Living in terrible conditions as they do, I would find it hard to go on. I feel such sadness over all the needless deaths. Thank You for the misery you have created, chimpster. I hope history condemns you.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:34 AM
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20. It takes a fair deal of courage to be a war tax resister
I myself have come to the point where my perception of the Democratic Party is that of being the more sophisticated wing of the War Party. What's more, after having read my share of Zinn, Chomsky, Parenti and Blum, I'd have to say, with much shame, that America has been the leading terrorist state since 1945.

No, I don't blame you at all for escaping this madness. God bless.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:01 AM
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10. A "christian" my ass...
What kind of christian lets something like this happen to innocent children??

Fuck you, George Bush...Fuck you.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:05 AM
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11. What am I missing?
It was a suicide bomber. The troops were handing out candy, which sounds like they were conducting themselves honorably. Why so pissed at Bush? This is one case which is not overtly his fault.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 03:13 AM
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12. He immorally and illegally invaded this country.
He put our troops there. His policies in Iraq have made more terrorists. He has abused, neglected and murdered our troops. The blood of our troops and these innocents are on his hands just as much as the person who did this atrocity.

Meanwhile, back at Camp Anaconda, troops and civilian contract workers are well fed, well protected and well entertained. Excuse me while I :puke:
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:12 AM
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18. Exactly!!
If Bush and his cronies had not started this war for profit, young children would not be standing in the street around US soldiers. The soldiers' and the childrens' blood is on the hands of Bush and his lying thugs.
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 04:22 AM
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14. The troops are there because he ordered them there
Everything that happens in this war is his fault, because he lied and bullied to impose this war on another country, one which posed no danger to us.

Bush and his thugs have broken the dam, and we are now being drowned in a sea of blood. He is the very worst president ever; he should be tried as a war criminal, and serve the rest of his miserable, shallow, vain and arrogant life behind bars.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:49 PM
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17. Here's what you're missing: Children aren't supposed to be human shields
Edited on Thu Jul-14-05 11:50 PM by lwfern
(aside from us being there in the first place, ruining their infrastructure, bombing civilians, don't even get me started)


The soldiers are handing out candy and toys to the kids to use them as human shields, which is against the Geneva Convention. There have already been published accounts of soldiers spreading the word around that if they can get stuff sent to them to hand out to children, they'll be safer - they are doing this knowingly. The result is that the kids are surrounding the US troops, so on the one hand the troops are less likely to get blown up if the bomber cares about the kids, but on the other hand it's luring the children to an obvious target.

The soldiers need to stop giving anything, let alone candy and toys, directly to the children, and instead give NUTRITIONAL FOOD and WATER to the parents.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:24 AM
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27. Do you have a source for this information? n/t
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:39 AM
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34. Wall Street Journal, Sep 22, 2004
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 07:44 AM by lwfern
Capt. Ayers took lessons from his fellow captains. In April, Capt. Jesse Beaudin convinced a friend from the U.S. to send backpacks, notebooks and pencils for schoolchildren. Kids mobbed troops for the goods whenever they went out on patrol. "The kids provided security. No one attacked us when we were surrounded by children," Capt. Beaudin says. After hearing about this tactic at the dining hall, Capt. Ayers's men also wrote home requesting school supplies.

reprinted here: http://www.thedonovan.com/archives/002850.html


human shield: a military term describing the use of civilians to deter an enemy from attacking certain targets — in particular military targets. International law considers the use of human shields to protect military targets a war crime. The Fourth Geneva Convention forbids the use of any civilian as a shield: "The presence of a protected person may not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations."
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:19 AM
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35. Ah, I see your point.
A little more than meets the eye here! Makes sense, the troops should be giving legitimate aid, and recognizing that they are targets. I can see the other side regarding the winning of hearts and minds, and its also true that anybody who blows themselves up in a group of children is a monstrosity, but I see the subtler danger here. Interesting.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:17 AM
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25. Well let's see, if our troops weren't there ALSO
invading and killing Iraqis, this would NOT have happened.

bush started this illegal, immoral, unjustified war on these people.

That's what you're missing.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:41 AM
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30. This is the second time
children were killed when troops were giving them candy. AIRC, the last time it happened even more were killed and maimed. The children should not be near the troops who are obviously targets (for which Bush is responsible) of everyone there, it appears.

What I missed was the world noticing these atrocities, and while there was a moment of silence for the British victims of all this madness, no one had a moment of silence for Iraq's children!!

What you might have missed also were the pictures of the little children, some babies, who were killed or maimed by Bush's bombs and the pictures of the Children of Fallujah, both from the first and second attacks on Fallujah ~ and god knows how many we didn't see.

Tonight on MSNBC there was a segment on one of the hospital in which there is a weekly toll of Bush's war, numbering approx. 800 dead and wounded. They showed a crying, wounded child ~ the doctors said the children are the worst, because 'we can't stop them from crying'.

They have no supplies, only one xray machine and few bandages. It was heartbreaking. Where are the billions of dollars of our taxpayer money? Why are these hospitals without supplies while Halliburton and Bechtel are profiting sinfully?

This is heartbreaking and a crime and I try not to hate anyone, but when I watch Karl Rove and know that he lied and smeared and did whatever was necessary to make this horror possible, it's hard not to hate him, and Bush and Cheney and the other smug members of this administration ~ because they don't care about the carnage they are responsible for!!

All they care about is their worthless hides, now that their lies are catching up with them.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:05 AM
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15. 20Some Today, 50 People Yesterday - But Some Lives Are Worth More
than others, apparently (according to nationality, race).
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:21 PM
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16. Yeah, I just about groaned today
when I heard all the play about London having a moment of silence for their dead last week, and I thought about the little souls lost yesterday. Not a word past that atrocity yesterday.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:13 AM
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19. "Brown people" don't count...didn't you get the memo??
This attitude that "they are different from us so they don't matter" pisses me off big time. Forty of fifty people a day are killed in Iraq -- most civilians. I don't see any "breaking news" about that.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:45 AM
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21. Some animals....
"Some Animals are more equal than others".
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:09 AM
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23. Jesus fucking Christ
I am not sure how much longer some of us can take this.

I. hate. Bush.

I. hate. every. god-damned politican who in any way supported, condoned or pushed for this war and that includes MANY Democrats.

Rot in hell war people.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:14 AM
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24. I bet you're looking forward to H. Clinton vs. J. Bush as much as I am
A tete a tete between war-mongers, with the ABB brigade as virulent as ever.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:29 AM
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28. You know I've had enough with the war people on BOTH sides of the aisle
If it comes down to any Bush vs the war-supporting likes of H. Clinton, I'll go third party in a flash so fast it will make Linda Blair's head spin off like a top on amphetamines.

I ain't gonna study war no more and there will be no more sympathy votes to the Democratic Party. Kerry was my last one and I bitterly regret it especially when you consider he couldn't even bothered to cash my reluctant check (my vote).

The war is my most pressing issue. Until it becomes a pressing issue to the party, they can't count me out. This all makes me too ill- so ill that I can barely feel any joy in life because of all the suffering being inflicted in our name, an a name the Democratic party allows to be just as dragged through the mud as the Republicans do.

No more. Any snot-nosed Congressional Aides reading this post. Get with the message. And tell the corporate sycophants you support that it's going to take a LOT more than a few insipid words; it's going to take action.

Don't even get me started on Hillary- she's so fully aboard the war against Iran bandwagon that she's introducing Middle Eastern terrorists on bi-partisan (Condy Rice, Frist, DeLay) strategic tours that "Iran is this close to an atomic bomb!!"
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:39 AM
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29. Yes, I guess you can say I've become a single-issue voter
I've seen far too many renderings of children who've had their faces/arms/legs blown off to be swayed by the ol' "But they're gonna repeal Roe v. Wade!!!!" litany. After my Kerry vote, I too washed my hands of these disciples of Mars.

As I understand it, Clinton and Pelosi were big hits at the recent AIPAC conference. How wonderful it is that women are given such prestigious roles in the War Party...how progressive of us.
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anarchy1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:39 AM
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33. Dearest Tinoire, I think you just said it all. At least for me.
Thank you.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:23 AM
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32. My worst freakin' nightmare...
It just might be time to finally find another country to live in.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 05:22 AM
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31. Well said, Tinoire...
I share your sentiments.

I believe in karma and these dickheads have a lot of bad karma heading their way.
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