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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:02 PM
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If Bush and Cheney get impeached and Condi is nailed
among others, who are we left with as President?

Bill Frist?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:04 PM
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1. There was a list on here long as your arm, and NONE of the names
were people you'd want to see in charge. *sigh*
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RethugAssKicker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:04 PM
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2. Condi nailed?... I wouln't touch her..
with your #### (lol)
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:05 PM
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3. I think it would then go to the speaker of the house
Dennis Hastert
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:06 PM
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8. And what if
they can prove that Bush stole the election? Too bad we couldn't get Fitzegerald to do that case. What's the latest with that?
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:07 PM
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9. There's a wholoe lot of info in the Election 2004 forum n/t
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:11 PM
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15. that's my question.
It seems to me that if we can prove the election was stolen, everything they've done, all the appointments, should be null and void.

But it's so hard to imagine how this could be played out, I think that's what makes it seem so unlikely, almost impossible. But really, if we could just prove the election was stolen, Kerry should be inaugurated, shouldn't he? Aren't there federal laws about stealing elections? Could a supreme * appointed be un-appointed? Seems reasonable to me.

And that is why I think we must continue to build the case that the election was stolen, and not "get over it and move on."
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:14 PM
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17. And then --
-- if he were impeached, if THEY were impeached, it seems that might make it more likely or more possible to prove the election was stolen. And then, what happens? Wouldn't Kerry go in, and toss out everything that * did, all his judicial appointments, and such?

If we can prove the election was stolen, can't we roll back what has been done in his second term, on that basis? That it was all done illegally?

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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:34 PM
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18. Maybe Bush was "allowed" to steal the election.
In order to bring the whole neocon tribe down.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:10 PM
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14. The order of succession is to the speaker before the sec of state
order of succession under the 25th Amendment

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez2
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao3
Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
Secretary of Homeland Security4 Michael Chertoff

NOTE: An official cannot succeed to the Presidency unless that person meets the Constitutional requirements.
1. The president pro tempore presides over the Senate when the vice president is absent. By tradition the position is held by the senior member of the majority party.
2. Carlos Gutierrez was born in Cuba and is ineligible.
3. Elaine Chao was born in Taiwan and is ineligible.
4. May move to number 8 on the list pending legislation

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0101032.html
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:49 PM
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19. Here's an interesting twist
I saw this a while back in a different context.

Under the Presidential Succession Act (or whatever its true name is), if both Prez and VP are dead, removed, whatever, then the Speaker of the House becomes new President.

My recollection is that, from a straight seniority position, Delay should have been up for speakership before Hastert, but declined to "run." I expect if there is ever a real possibility of the Speaker taking over, there will be an emergency vote to elect a new Speaker, and Delay will toss his hat in the ring.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:05 PM
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4. Condi is not in line after Cheney
First person after Cheney is currenlty Dennis Hastert of Illinois.

After Hastert comes Senator Ted Stevens of Alaska.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:08 PM
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11. So it would be Hastert then.
I guess we could do worse but yuck!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:05 PM
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5. Hastert
even if Condi isn't nailed
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:05 PM
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6. What can you nail Condi with?
She just reads the teleprompter and memorizes three answers to reply to any and all questions with.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:05 PM
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7. It doesn't pass to the Senate Majority Leader...
It passes to the Senate President Pro Tem, which I believe is Ted Stevens of Alaska. Following that, it goes to the Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:11 PM
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16. Hastert comes before Stevens
Here is the succession list:

The Vice President Richard Cheney
Speaker of the House John Dennis Hastert
President pro tempore of the Senate1 Ted Stevens
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice
Secretary of the Treasury John Snow
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales
Secretary of the Interior Gale A. Norton
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns
Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez2
Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao3
Secretary of Health and Human Services Mike Leavitt
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson
Secretary of Transportation Norman Yoshio Mineta
Secretary of Energy Samuel Bodman
Secretary of Education Margaret Spellings
Secretary of Veterans Affairs Jim Nicholson
Secretary of Homeland Security4 Michael Chertoff


This is set forth in The Presidential Succession Act of 1947.
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Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:07 PM
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10. this would be such a unique situation
that I think a new election may be called for. At least, with corruption as rampant as it is, that's what should be done.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:09 PM
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13. Interesting! nt
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 01:09 PM
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12. Condi
How are they going to find someone willing to nail Condi? I've heard of duty in the line of fire, but that's cruel and unusual punishment.
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