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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:44 AM
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The Latest Zogby Poll of Iraqis
you just gotta love this ...

i was watching some of the congressional hearings on whether to fund bush's exorbitant request for continued operations in Iraq ...

Wolfowitz had quoted a Zogby poll that showed Iraqis were supportive of what the U.S. had done, and is doing, in Iraq ...

a democrat (sorry, i forgot his name), in response to this, asked Mr. Wolfowitz to tell him who commissioned the poll ... this is, who paid Zogby to conduct the poll ...

Wolfowitz's answer: the American Enterprise Institute ...

surprised, the congressman repeated: who paid for the poll ???

Wolfowitz: the American Enterprise Institute ...

then Wolfowitz added (realizing his credibility and the polls credibility were on the line): BUT a gallup poll showed similar results ...

and so, we see yet again, how polls, and the whores who are paid to conduct them, are used for propaganda purposes ...

Kucinich is right !!!! we need to get the hell out of there as soon as possible ... the argument that we made a mess there and now it's our responsibility to clean it up is all well and good ... but the reality is that we will not be able to clean it up !!! the sooner we make arrangements for the best transition we're able to achieve, the better off we'll be and the better off the iraqis will be ...

absent that, we're looking at a multi-year quagmire that can only end in failure while bankrupting critically needed domestic programs at the same time ...
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:47 AM
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1. "We LOVE Americans"
"Our daughters have yellow pencils now"

"We love American military, who give us training demonstrations in our homes"

"Take our oil, please"..

"Saddam?? Saddam?..Who dat?"
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:47 AM
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2. now hold on just a minute here....
how does Zogby (or anyone, for that matter) conduct polls in a country w/o electricty? Who will have a phone? Do they go out on the streets? There is something logistically corrupt about any such poll, IMHO.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:49 AM
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5. Good question
local barber shop?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:06 AM
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7. I'd certainly hope they're out in the street
Any poll based solely on phone calls is going to be a bit skewed. Some people won't bother with a phone poll; some people always let someone else in the household answer the phone; and so on. 'Logistically corrupt' is more applicable to a phone-only poll. They just do that to save themselves time and money.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:57 AM
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 01:07 PM
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14. whatever...
you realize, of course, that personal attacks are not allowed at DU.

No, I will not believe that most Iraqis are 'happy' to have the US occupying their country for one reason:

If the tables were turned, I wouldn't be happy to have them here.
That's thinking like a human being.

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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:48 AM
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3. Hmmmm
I think Wolfowitz totally mischaracterized what the Iraqis said in that poll. The only positive response came to the question, "Do you think you'll be better off in five years than you were under SH?" That in no way says, "I support the American invasion." It could just mean, "When you Americans finally clear out and let us get on with things, we'll be better off." IOW, "Thanks for getting rid of SH, now go home!"
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 10:48 AM
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4. The U.S. can best fulfill its responsibility by getting the Hell out
and then providing the U.N. with whatever support it requires to stabilize and rebuild Iraq.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:06 AM
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6. Most said things were worse
...since the invasion.
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janekat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:08 AM
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8. Did they? I'd love to see that poll. Maybe I can do a google.... n/t
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:21 AM
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9. As Salam Pax has always said
an Iraqi will always tell a person in authority what he wants to hear.
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CRYINGWOLFOWITZ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:29 AM
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10. sure the ones rich enough to have a phone are probably happy
A poll done in 1936 showed FDR to lose in a landslide to his opponent. FDR won in a megalandslide. The poll only called people rich enough to have a phone during the depression in 1936. Idiots
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lanlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:31 AM
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11. if I remember correctly---
--that poll was of Baghdad residents only. Not representative of all Iraqis.

Also, I have my doubts as to how representative it was of residents of Baghdad, since many parts of the city have become flat-out dangerous. Did the pollsters make it out to the poorest or unsafe parts?

Plus, polls in the Middle East rarely reflect true public opinion due to cultural factors, restraints on female speech, and so on.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 01:02 PM
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13. Did they poll the hospitals? Probably not, because..
journalists are banned from hospitals in Baghdad.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 01:18 PM
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15. I'm in favor of the 87 Billion

But this is what they have to do with it.

First - Bring every American Home (those who wish to leave).
Second - Give whatever is left over to the Iraqis, so that they can try to pick up the peices.
Third - America should submit to voluntary UN sanctions for destroying a sovereign nation.
Fourth - US should turnover the impeached leaders of USA to be tried in international court for crimess against humanity.

Suddenly $87 billion doesn't sound like so much does it ?

Cheers
Drifter
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