Ted Olsen so loved Barbara that he remarried less that 6 months...

[devilgrrl]

after she was killed on 9/11.

So much for a mourning period. :sarcasm:

[whistle]

1. Ted Olsen....who he?

[Gato Moteado]

6. he's just more right wing filth

another fascist basically

[Spider Jerusalem]

Ex-Solicitor General.

Now on the short list for the Supreme Court.

[Al-CIAda]

16. He is the provider of one of the 9//11 cover stories. n/t

[housewolf]

22. Bush's lawyer, he argued *'s side in Bush v. Gore

and was rewarded by being appointed Soliciter General

[longship]

23. Him!

Ted Olson, Solicitor-General of the USA.

And soon to be Supreme Court nominee.

[goclark]

71. Whoi did he dig up that would want to maarry him?

He is ugly inside and out.

[johnfunk]

78. His late wife Barbara was an arch Clinton hater on cable "news" TV

... during the Lewinsky flap.



There's no question that the monsters who perpetrated the 9/11/01 attacks are among the wprst criminals in history -- but I can't feel bad that they killed fascistic media liar Barbara Olson, a McCarthyesque swine if there ever was one.

After all, this is how she and her husband (I can't help but think they both must've been getting some on the side) feel about real Americans:

[Lucille]

81. Wow. That seems to be the Bushco Family salute

Do you know the story behind that photo?

[johnfunk]

83. It's a photoshopped press pic -- I've seen the original

Might as well be real though -- Ted's an arrogant, contemptuous, elitist slimeball.

[whistle]

91. Oh that neo-con PNAC Dominionist

[displacedtexan]

46. He's your next Supreme Court justice.

That's my personal prediction.

Notorious PNACer and Federal Society guy.

And responsible for Bush v Gore.

[Cha]

67. Wasn't he bush's solitcitor

in the Gore VS bush in front of the Supreme Court?

[bullimiami]

2. if her plane didnt crash into the pentagon

is she dead?

was their very visible marriage and call from the plane all a ruse?


in plane sight......hmmmm

[malaise]

3. I asked bout that sometime ago

I wanted to know about the odds of Babs being on that aircraft and whether he had someone else somewhere else. Pretty neat.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

4. well, buckrtooth babs was either

Mrs Olson the third, or Mrs. Olsen the fourth. Can't remember, but she was pretty far down on the list.

[trotsky]

5. Dang!

I didn't know that. I guess it's "hard work" being alone.

[cynatnite]

7. I don't know who that is...but rebound isn't a stretch

I find this kind of attack on someone disturbing.

[Bunny]

9. You find an attack on Ted Olsen 'disturbing'?

:spray:

[cynatnite]

13. Like I said...I don't know who he is

I find it odd to attack when he marries someone.

[devilgrrl]

14. If you don't know who he is then don't comment!

Learn about him. I doubt you'll be impressed!

[cynatnite]

21. last I checked I can comment on whatever I damn well please

I thought the attack was odd. Period. I don't give a shit who he marries, when he marries or why he marries. If he's a jackass because of public policy...fine!

:eyes:

[WillyT]

28. Well... Here's Something Linking Personal To Public Policy !!!

Enjoy...

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4011344

[cynatnite]

30. Okay, so what does this have to do with him getting remarried? n/t

[devilgrrl]

32. So basically what you're saying is...

that if your spouse gets killed in terrorist attack, that will only take a matter of months to put it behind you and remarry?

What I'm insinuating is that he couldn't care less about her and already had someone else waiting in the wings before she was dead!

[cynatnite]

33. Oh, I see...he should have mourned longer.

You think that because he didn't mourn long enough to suit you that it says something to how he feels about his wife who was killed.

on edit: reworded for clarification

[devilgrrl]

34. That's exactly what I'm saying.

He used her like a BIC lighter.

[cynatnite]

35. so how long should he have mourned?

Is there a specific period of time one should follow?

[devilgrrl]

37. And why don't you know anything about him to begin with?

What's the matter? To busy to get to know your BFEE?

[cynatnite]

38. so now you attack me

:rofl:

[devilgrrl]

40. Why not - you started the fire!

Testa la merde

[cynatnite]

42. What fire?

I said I thought it was odd to attack someone based on when they married after their spouse died.

You didn't like the fact that he married sooner then YOU thought he should have and attacked him over it. You're the one that got worked up over it.

[BiggJawn]

101. According to Emily Post, at least a year.

And if you didn't know who he was, a simple search would have given you plenty enlightenment...

[comsymp]

87. "Dittoing" cynatnite - exactly how long should he have mourned?

I'd really like to know.

I "remarried" after 17 months, started dating after 11 - would that have been long enough, by your standards?

This is an incredibly tacky thread.

ON EDIT: sorry, cynatnite - can't spell worth a damn tonight.

[mitchum]

96. He may have felt the same way that I felt about her...

GOOD RIDDANCE!
I'm only sorry that Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter weren't her seatmates.

[ronnykmarshall]

8. GOP values at work again.

[Lord_StarFyre]

10. I Hadn't heard about this??????

Is there any kind of documentation, articles, etc. on this one????

[in_cog_ni_to]

11. That was my exact thought when I had heard he remarried.

Wow...short mourning. That must have been true love. :eyes:

[AlCzervik]

12. He needs someone to tend to his vast wig collection.

[Name removed]

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[cornermouse]

17. I don't agree with preset mourning periods for anyone.

The day of funeral pyres is long past.

[caledesi]

18. Wouldn't this be his FOURTH marriage? Family values.....yeah

Do you have a link?

[Enraged_Ape]

19. I saw an interview with this clown 60 days after his wife's death

and he seemed about as nonplussed as someone who'd just lost a national quarter-finals tiddly-winks match. I know that if anything were to happen to MY wife, I'd be a basket case for at least a year, then I'd be crazed with blood vengeance. Not so for Teddie. I remember seeing a picture of him disco-dancing with some blond bombshell not six months after his wife's murder.

[bhunt70]

20. I find this a non issue and non of my business.

[Enraged_Ape]

25. Good for you!

Then, O righteous one, why bother posting to this thread? :shrug:

[cynatnite]

27. Is there some rule that dictates what threads a person can post? n/t

[6 sack fiber]

Yes the same type of mentality which dictates proper grieving

rituals and periods for other people also decides who can post on what threads.

[leftchick]

63. pointing out hypocritical repuke "values" on this board

is a favorite of mine!

:hi:

[Enraged_Ape]

49. Don't you just find it slightly funny...

that someone who says, essentially, that this topic is beneath them and none of their business somehow manages to summon enough energy and interest to POST TO A FREAKING THREAD ABOUT IT?

Hypocritical much?

[bhunt70]

53. How is it hypocritical? I find his grieving and marriage none of my

business. On the other hand posting in this thread is as much of my business as anyone else on this forum. I didn't say anyone here was wrong, I just posted my opinion that I thought this was a non-issue.

My right.

[jmaier]

31. I would love to discredit Olson

but this thread is low.

[hunter]

52. I could bring it much, much lower, but I won't.

Still, I haven't yet seen anything here lower than the GOP hacks that brought us "Clinton's Blow Job" 24-7.

[progressivebydesign]

29. I'm also in the 'none of my business' camp.

Happily married people often marry again after the death of a spouse.. because marriage was a good experience for them. I cannot begin to fathom the grief of losing your spouse on 9/11, so I can't comment on what may have helped him heal.

[Hello_Kitty]

24. Well talk about your quick courtships!

Ummm...You don't think maybe he "knew" his bride whilst still married to the former Mrs. Olson do you? Perish the thought!:evilgrin:

[KarenS]

26. Ted Olsen,,,, He argued the Bush VS Gore case in front of the

Supreme Court in 2000 before he became Solicitor General,,,,,

[devilgrrl]

36. Also a loyal member of the Arkansas Project.

A real character guy.

[wakemeupwhenitsover]

54. along w/babs.

She & coulter were part of the 'elves'.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

39. He did? Never heard that!

:rofl:

[Bluebear]

41. I was amazed her cell phone even worked up there...

All these "let's roll" cell phone calls from 30000 feet altitude: who knew cell phones worked up there?

[Bunny]

43. I don't think they were using cell phones.

I think they were using seatback airphones.

[Bluebear]

45. Oh yeah, it was the guy in the bathroom making a cell call

SHANKSVILLE, Pennsylvania (AP) -- A passenger on United Airlines Flight 93 called on his cell phone from a locked bathroom and delivered a chilling message.

"We are being hijacked, we are being hijacked!" Minutes later the jetliner crashed in western Pennsylvania with 45 people aboard, the last of four closely timed terror attacks across the country.

http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/11/911.call/

Barbara used a seat back phone although her husband said she had no credit card with her and asked him "What should I tell the pilot to do?" like he was sitting next to her. :crazy:

[dsc]

44. My dad announced his engagement to his second wife

around 6 months after my mother died. To say I was less than thrilled would be an understatement. But his marriage was not my business and if I feel that about his second marriage, just imagine how little business I consider Olsen's. In short, there are a vast array of reasons Olsen is unfit for any government office, his marriage isnt' one.

[Fescue4u]

47. This thread would make a good addition to the scamdy site

low blows on the deceased and their loved ones.

I've known a few people who have remarried quickly after the death of a spouse.

Sometimes it was misplaced remourse (imo), or maybe the marriage was ending anyway. Or maybe the marriage was great and they want that feeling again.

How people deal with death is as varied as how people deal with life.

[Catherine Vincent]

48. That was obviously a marriage of convenience,

and not love. I didn't like Barbara that much because she was a rabid Clinton hater. But she always would have a nice smile on her face when interviewed. She wasn't as vile as the others either. I was sad when she lost her life that day.

[Missy Vixen]

51. Okay, here's the weird part

Barbara Olson had evidently had, in the weeks before September 11, a change of heart about her life. She supposedly told colleagues that she was tired of the scorched earth dirty tricks coming out of the GOP, and was feeling remorse for her part in it. Some of you may remember her attack on Virginia Kelley Clinton, Bill Clinton's mom.

I found it more than odd that she would get on an airliner without her purse (according to her husband,) for a cross-country trip. It was even more odd to me that she supposedly called him on an Airphone without a credit card.

Without donning my tinfoil hat, let's consider the following: John Ashcroft was told to stay off commercial airliners. So was Colin Powell, and Mr. Powell would not allow immediate members of his family to fly, either. Ted Olson didn't get the memo?

Julie

[Bluebear]

55. "I can NOT go on a cross country trip without a credit card."

That would have been me, saying I need to take an evening flight while I go home to get my forgotten wallet.

[Catherine Vincent]

58. Did she really have a change of heart?

I really hope that she did because you had to know Ted was probably putting her up to that. And if she was on a flight without her purse did she have her wallet? How did she pay for her flight? Questions questions.

[Catherine Vincent]

59. In addition,

I just remembered..you may be right about the change of heart bit because I remember a couple of weeks before Sept. 11 Barbara was a guest on cspan's Washington Journal and one of the callers was really angry with her the way she would attack the Clinton's. The caller told Barbara she was evil and everything. Maybe after that Ms. Olsen started to reflect on her life and how she is being thought of. I do think that caller was a bit harsh though.

[kskiska]

72. If I remember correctly, Barbara had an anti-Clinton book in the can

and Ted had it released after the crash. So much for a change of heart.

[merbex]

79. I remember that caller and the look on Babara Olsen's face

she looked stricken and the caller called her a witch. My father was watching in his apartment after 9/11 he remembered the caller also

Believe me,if you saw and heard that- 9/11 was weird to think that that might have been her last appearance on tv.

Spooky

[Missy Vixen]

90. She was flying to LA to appear on a television show

>And if she was on a flight without her purse did she have her wallet? How did she pay for her flight? Questions questions.<

If I remember correctly, she was supposed to appear on "Politically Incorrect". I may be wrong. I need to Google this.

The incident that supposedly shook her so badly was getting verbally attacked by a caller on a political show a few weeks previous to her death. The woman on the phone told Mrs. Olson that she should be "ashamed" of herself for her behavior. During this period of time, somebody sent Mrs. Olson's work e-mail address to bartcop.com. Here's the bon mot I sent to it, and I do not retract one word.

Dear Mrs. Olson,

I was astonished at the tone and verbiage of your recent comments about Virginia Kelley in London's "Daily Telegraph".

Whether or not you care for President Clinton or his politics is immaterial. Mrs. Kelley was "a barfly"? Considering the fact that she worked to put food on the table for her family, she must not have had many hours of the day to commit to her drinking "career". It would seem that the current resident of the White House could also be referred to as "a barfly," could he not? After all, his primary career till the age of 40 was drinking alcoholic beverages, wasn't it?

You may also be forgetting Bush's underage daughters. Refresh my memory: How many times have one or both of them been cited for underage alcohol consumption in the past four months?

Do you realize that most Americans work for a living, and don't find themselves "employed" by conservative think tanks? Might you also realize that most Americans believe in fair play and acceptance of those who weren't born with a large trust fund passbook in hand, and worked hard for everything they had?

Thank you, Mrs. Olson, for showing exactly what kind of person you are on an international scale. Also, thank you again for reminding me why I will never, EVER vote Republican. I am the daughter of blue-collar parents I'm sure you would classify as "barflies," since my father visited the local bar to meet his friends, who also worked hard for a living. Evidently, it must be more genteel to consume one's drug of choice out of a crystal decanter at home. Plus, there's the added benefit of hiding those inevitable public drunkenness and DUI arrests by lawyering up and telling the press, "This is a family matter," while the common folk are forced to take their medicine.

I, and most Americans, would prefer spending our time with someone like Mrs. Kelley, who, while having such "lowbrow" hobbies, managed to inspire and motivate a son who later became the legally elected President of the United States. He sustained the longest peacetime economic boom in the history of our nation, bettering the lot of millions. I'm only sorry I'll never have the chance to meet Mrs. Kelley and shake her hand.

Very truly yours,
(my name)

[philb]

95. All of the Admin. had multiple warnings- thats a matter of record

The FAA and Airlines also had multiple very specific warnings.

And the stories of the Olsen phone calls have been so strange and changed so often that its clear they were bogus.

http://www.flcv.com/warnings.html

[mitchum]

97. Uh, she was flying out on a publicity tour for her anti-Hillary screed

What change of heart?

[ROH]

50. Can you provide a link to this information? (n/t)

[kskiska]

74. Link please? I can't find anything about a 4th marriage

for Olson.

[Bleacher Creature]

77. Same here. I never heard that. n/t

[linazelle]

56. What are the odds?

That the same man who argued Bush v. Gore, a national case with far-reaching implications, would also lose his wife in one of the 4 planes on 9/11, a bigger national and world wide tragedy.

I guess fate just can't leave this guy alone huh? :eyes:

[Sacajawea]

84. What are the odds?

Yesterday I was reading a (partial) list of the people who died in the London bombings who have so far been identified.

One was a young woman, about 28 or so. When she was an 11-year-old schoolgirl she lived in Lockerbie, Scotland. She was there when the airplane exploded (?) and crashed in/near that town. I recall that there were a few people from the town who were killed in addition to everyone on the plane.

What are the odds, indeed.

[Pastiche423]

57. W/o Boxcutter Babs

We would never have learned that the "terrorists" used "boxcutters" to control all of the passengers.

But all it took to get that message to the media, was the one phone call to her dearest and most loving husband.

It is utterly unbelievable, to me, how gullible some people are.

[ROH]

60. Ted Olsen's own comments about lying...

We note that before the US Supreme Court, US Solicitor General Theodore Olson stated that:

It is "easy to imagine an infinite number of situations...where government officials might quite legitimately have reason to give false information out"

Washington Post - March 21, 2002 - "The Limits of Lying" - p.A35

http://www.lawyersagainstthewar.org/letters/lawlettertopm.html

[Pastiche423]

62. Yeah but...

There was nothing legitimate about the lie Olson told.

Unless you believe in the Caveman Theory of 9/11.

[BeHereNow]

61. Question I have ALWAYS had-

We certainly have heard plenty from
the families who lost loved ones in the
WTC attack.
Anone know of a similar coalition of
families who lost loved ones on the
highjacked planes?
Why is Ted Olsen the only one to have appeared
immediately on the news after the attacks?
Are any of the family members of people
on the planes part of the 9-11 survivor group?
I don't EVER recall seeing a spokesperson
from the passengers families other than Ted-O.
Anyone?
BHN

[leftchick]

64. There you go again BHN....

:tinfoilhat:

:popcorn:

;)

[BeHereNow]

65. I know, bad BeHereNow...

But tell me, where are the passenger families?
LOTS of noise from WTC employee families-
Scarce a peep from AA passenger survivors.
HMMM?
:tinfoilhat: secured

[leftchick]

69. I have seen many many interviews with those IN the pentagon

and their families. But None from on the plane as you say. Hmmm... Do you suppose BarBar may be in an undisclosed location??? Under a new identity?" As a "new" wife????


:tinfoilhat: Firmly in place!

:hi:

[BeHereNow]

73. Damn strange, isn't it?

I mean WHERE were they in the
push for an investigative panel???
Foiled up-
BHN

[Catherine Vincent]

66. Wasn't the wife of the guy that said "let's roll" on the news all the time

[BeHereNow]

68. More foil please-

Given all the strangeness, I am questioning
WHO the people were that appeared on the
network WHORE media immediately after 9-11.
Let's not forget the staged testimony about
the incubators...
BHN

[livinginphotographs]

86. I can't remember the name

But there was a man, Mark something, who supposedly helped the passengers take down Flight 93 in Pennsylvania. There was a big thing about it because he was gay, and his story was featured in the Advocate as being about someone who helped to prevent another attack being denied equal rights, much like black people who fought in WWII.

I wish I could remember the story, because it was a cool story anyway, but there's another one who was actually a passenger.

[Bunny]

76. What about Lisa Beamer?

Her husband Todd was on Flight 93.

[mountainvue]

92. That was the plane that crashed in

Pennsylvania. I think BHN is specifically asking about the plane that crashed into the Pentagon.

[Bunny]

100. Oh, okay. I missed that.

[Ilsa]

70. His toupee is a real babe-magnet. n/t

[anarchy1999]

75. Tin Foil, just for fun, Barbara is living in an underground, well-stocked

cave somwhere.

We saw here on C-Span the day or two before her plane went down.

Somewhere from in the south, an old woman got on the phone and said "I see the devil in you". Barbara was speechless and It was a breath taking moment, especially given the events of the next few days.

Barbara was gone. Cell phone and all.

Hey Ted, we feel your pain.

TIN FOIL ARLERT!

[Catherine Vincent]

80. I remember that call.

That's the one I'm talking about up above.

[KG]

82. ted and barb were both serial adulterers

made for one another.

[Arugula Latte]

85. Oh wow. That's strange.

I wouldn't be surprised if that slimeball Oleson had a hand in it all.

[undeterred]

88. Maybe she didn't really die in 9/11 but got a new identity

after 6 months of plastic surgery- and that's who he married.:shrug:

[ObaMania]

89. Well he probably knew about MIHOP and scheduled her to be on the flight

Probably all of 'em knew. And they all got a last call to get relatives on planes in WTC that they wanted to get rid of.

After her death, I saw him on Crossfire being interviewed about it and his sadness was like the fakest shit I ever seen in my life. He's such an insincere POS. He was probably having an affair when Babs died, so it was all he could do to hold back his giddiness in those interviews.

She was filth and he is the scum of the earth. May they both rot in hell.

[whistle]

93. Well, I need more information on both of these people before...

...I can make that kind of assessment

[leesa]

94. Bet he made her reservations. They were not getting on well from what

I read.

[JI7]

98. he had already been married about 4-5 times before Barbara

so this isn't surprising. i remember he was already dating about a couple weeks after 9/11 also.

[gulfcoastliberal]

99. Anyone who doesn't know this scum needs to read "Blinded by the Right"

Brock explains the incestous web of RW filth like Olsen and the Silbermans. Silberman for Chief Justice? I wouldn't doubt it.

[theboss]

102. So did my girlfriend's dad

His wife died of breast cancer. Within six months, he was remarried to a family friend who was a widow.

Want to criticize him too?