Senate thread 3 - Reid Vote (the Rove amendment)

[LSK]

They are voting on an amendment where if you disclose that someone is in the CIA without permission, you should loose your security clearance.

[dogday]

1. thank you n/t

[notadmblnd]

2. any results on the votes yet?

I'm watching the house talk about this on CSPAN 1

[dogday]

3. No not yet n/t

[im10ashus]

6. Still at work here.

GREAT work on the previous thread, everyone. THANKS!

:hi: :yourock:

Keep me posted. I'm being held hostage at work.

[AnnInLa]

15. what is the house saying?

[notadmblnd]

49. Jay Inslee

talking about what Karl Rove did was wrong whether it was illegal or not. It goes against what a democratic country is about.

laying it out very detailed, talking about the goal of the admin to intimitate but they couldn't imtimidate joe wilson.

Talking how the president has as much said that he isn't going to do anything about it
and what is so sad, is that the attack on wilson is continueing today

it's not easy to point out that what the president has told the american people was wrong.

took a lot of gumption for wilson to point it out and this admin has condoned an organized attack on wilson.

wilson did his job, it was no picnic and did his job and came back and reported about it.

they've conducted a smear against joe and did perhaps worse to his wife .

it's not what we should expect from our president, they/we deserve better

politics are not important

what is is for congress to find a way to prevent this from happening again

congress has to say that presidents can't just wink and say it ok to expose an agent to advance political agenda

it's important this resloution of inquiry and he'shopeful that republican collegues will join him


so far

[notadmblnd]

57. just adjourned till monday

nt

[Beaverhausen]

4. you answered my question

:hi:

[LSK]

5. yes n/t

[dogday]

8. Call the Reid Amendment

but inspired by Rove, yes....

[Tommymac]

7. Live on CSPAN2 for those who want to watch

[Guaranteed]

9. EXCELLENT wording.

Turned that one right the fuck around on 'em.

[LSK]

11. i am paraphrasing

But yes, they worded it short and sweet and CLEAR.

[Guaranteed]

16. But they used something like "without permission," instead of "deliberate-

ly," right?

[LSK]

19. something like that n/t

[AnnInLa]

10. Can you imagine someone trying to refresh these threads

on dial-up?

Still calling roll

[me b zola]

I can do more than imagine

It sucks:(

[longship]

12. Let's highlight only defections...

Keep the thread shorter.

[Tommymac]

13. This is going to be good...WIN/WIN for Democrats

no matter what happens.

They can trumpet a no vote in the re-election campaigns next year --- a NO vote AGAINST National Security.

[dogday]

17. Exactly what I was thinking

who wants to go back to their state and explain this no vote?

[Guaranteed]

18. Yes, sir! We have ourselves an honest-to-goodness issue, here,

that we can jam right up their fucking asses.

[Tommymac]

24. Wow, why am I getting all hot n bothered?

:dilemma:

[dogday]

14. I can't hear who is voting n/t

[MuseRider]

20. Roll call. n/t

[LSK]

22. nobody yet, they just read off Senators names 1st n/t

[Sapphire Blue]

23. Roll call

[Cocoa]

21. it would be easier for the GOP

if this were about flag burning.

[Tommymac]

25. And not about burning a CIA agent...

[Tommymac]

30. So far Party line vote...

[me b zola]

26. Jeffords, aye

[ralps]

27. Sarbanes, Lincoln, Aye

[me b zola]

28. McCain didn't vote??

[Tommymac]

31. Nay for McCain I beleive...

[longship]

32. McCain -- No

n/t

[AnnInLa]

35. I think he voted NO, they were reading the names so fast

[longship]

29. No crossovers... This may not pass.

Middle of the road Reps voting NO

[Guaranteed]

33. Then we let everyone know how much they don't give a shit about

our national security.

[me b zola]

42. You nailed it, it's all about national security

the sorry sack of ass wipes...


edited to say that McCain did even worse than not vote, he voted against national security:grr:

[Cocoa]

52. yep

GOP solidly supports destroying intelligence assets for political gain, they can put it in their platform.

[Tommymac]

36. But we still will WIN.

It's a no lose for the Dems - brilliant play by Reid.

[Guaranteed]

Oh, this is an awesome talking point, right here. Watercooler, here I

come.

These assholes don't want to protect our CIA agents. Wow.

Strong on national security, my ass.

[Tommymac]

45. Can you tape it for the rest of us?

This will be a kick ace WC discussion!

[bigtree]

62. heard it said earlier here

they're soft on security

[Cocoa]

34. sounds like party line

we know where the GOP stands on nat. security.

[Sgent]

39. Crud

Luger and Specter -- No :(

Thought one or both might switch.

[blondeatlast]

43. No chance now, in that case. They have influence. Damn. nt

[Tommymac]

41. BINGO!

So will the public...and re-election 2006 just got that much harder!

[Guaranteed]

44. So add in "every single Republican" is unwilling to protect our CIA agents

who are working to protect us from terrorists.

[Tommymac]

47. Repubs Aid Terrorists - and Out CIA Agents. nt

:evilgrin:

[Sapphire Blue]

55. Dems support national security; Reps support vengeful politics while

... compromising national security.

[ralps]

37. Pryor Kohl Kennedy Aye

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[AnnInLa]

38. Did Warner vote yes????

[longship]

40. Warner -- NO

n/t

[halobeam]

53. these are the most partisan asswipes ever to sit in the senate.

they call us partisan? this would be my point to make EVERYTIME they spew lies about this issue being partisan politics. What a ...ech...

[AnnInLa]

46. Reid, et al, knew this wouldn't pass

wanted the "NO" votes on the record for the 2006 elections...I think it was great.

Offense, Dems, offense

[jsamuel]

51. true, everyone should remember who voted what here today

[Tommymac]

56. Give em hell Harry!

Maybe Howard D is having some effect after all....this is a strategy that I'm sure he had something to do with....

[Tommymac]

60. Allen give results...

what a smug a-hole. Fails 44-54 - Party line vote.

On Edit: That's G Allen ...sorry.

[longship]

48. Straight party line so far?

I haven't heard any defections (other than Jeffords).

[ralps]

50. Kerry, Nelson of Neb., Aye

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Guaranteed]

54. Go here to the Yahoo! boards to try out our new talking point!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050714/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_investigation_41;_ylt=AuCAQ0p_.sfvfDyqaII.vvtZJ_wA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Republicans apparently DON'T CARE TO PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THE WAR ON TERRORISM. Oh, no! There's no need to keep them undercover!

[ralps]

58. 44 Aye 53 No

:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[LSK]

67. is that the final vote?? 53-44

Who didnt vote?

[ralps]

72. I think so although it might be 44 Aye 54 No. I don't know who didn't

vote. :hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:

[Stinky The Clown]

73. Barbara Mikulski ...... she's in the hospital in Baltimore

Supposedly nothing serious ...

Jul 12, 2005 7:25 am US/Eastern
Baltimore, MD (AP) Senator Barbara Mikulski was undergoing tests at a Baltimore hospital, a spokeswoman said late Monday. Mikulski, 68, was admitted to Mercy Medical Center Monday morning.

"Senator Mikulski is undergoing some diagnostic medical tests at Mercy Hospital in Baltimore," Melissa Schwartz, a spokeswoman for the Democrat, wrote in a prepared statement. "She is expected to be released in a couple of days."

Schwartz would not say what prompted the hospitalization, or what kind of tests Maryland's junior senator was undergoing.

Mikulski was elected to a fourth six-year term in November. She is the most senior woman in the Senate and serves on the Senate Appropriations Committee.

http://wjz.com/topstories/local_story_192230859.html

[goodboy]

59. This was a great move by Reid. He put the pukes in a lose-lose

situation, and they were forced to show their true colors.

They had no choice but to show the American people that they don't give a rats ass about our national security, and they dont' give a rat's ass about the safety and security of our undercover agents.

Just like they don't give a rat's ass about our soldier's well being.

[indy_azcat]

63. what's reid doing now?

:shrug:

[Tommymac]

65. Yes - WE now have to get the word out...

This is Our Talking point!

[Beaverhausen]

61. that's fucked up

[Sapphire Blue]

64. REPUBLICANS SUPPORT TRAITORS!

[rzemanfl]

66. No, ARE TRAITORS. n/t

[Sapphire Blue]

68. Both!

[Zorra]

82. Yep. Even JOHN McCAIN is a traitor. Who would ever elect him President

after this vote?

What a sell out of the American people. All republicans are corrupt.

[mmonk]

69. Our covert agents have been served notice

They're fair game.

[DemInDistress]

70. Reid should have shown eugene armstrong's head

being chopped off.By outing ms.plame that guy lost his head..very graphic..see it, keyword..216.117.171.171 idc daily

its horrendous,shoulda been rove's head that was CHOPPED off

[Twist_U_Up]

77. wheres this link ?

[DemInDistress]

79. twist...

keyword...216.117.171.171
use those numbers in the keyword look on the page for idc daily
hope that helps

[LSK]

71. anyone have a link to the final roll call votes???

I want this to be official.

[DemonFighterLives]

75. They don't show the numbers, but maybe somewhere on this

lSite:

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/legislative/a_three_sections_with_teasers/votes.htm

[LSK]

78. its listed here

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/vote_menu_109_1.htm

[schrodingers_cat]

74. DIS-GUSTING AND VULGAR!!!

(sorry for yelling.....)

[Straight Shooter]

76. Headline should be: Republicans Soft on Treason, Party Before Country.

Party before country. Party before country. Way to go, Repubs. Not one of you with courage.

[jillan]

80. Party before Country - Excellent frame

It is so true -

They put their party before their country - say it over and over again.

[LSK]

81. official final vote link from Senate Website

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00188

Question: On the Amendment (Reid Amdt. No. 1222 )
Vote Number: 188 Vote Date: July 14, 2005, 06:53 PM
Required For Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Amendment Rejected
Amendment Number: S.Amdt. 1222 to H.R. 2360 (Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act )
Statement of Purpose: To prohibit Federal employees who disclose classified information to persons not authorized to receive such information from holding a security clearance.
Vote Counts: YEAs 44
NAYs 53
Not Voting 3