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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:06 PM
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Should this Thomas Jefferson letter be required reading in all schools?
Public Schools that is.

Thomas Jefferson Letter to Nephew Peter Carr
Jefferson's letter to his nephew, from Paris, August 10, 1787


Religion. Your reason is now mature enough to examine this object. In the first place, divest yourself of all bias in favor of novelty & singularity of opinion. Indulge them in any other subject rather than that of religion. It is too important, and the consequences of error may be too serious. On the other hand, shake off all the fears & servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. You will naturally examine first, the religion of your own country. Read the Bible, then as you would read Livy or Tacitus. The facts which are within the ordinary course of nature, you will believe on the authority of the writer, as you do those of the same kind in Livy & Tacitus. The testimony of the writer weighs in their favor, in one scale, and their not being against the laws of nature, does not weigh against them. But those facts in the Bible which contradict the laws of nature, must be examined with more care, and under a variety of faces. Here you must recur to the pretensions of the writer to inspiration from God. Examine upon what evidence his pretensions are founded, and whether that evidence is so strong, as that its falsehood would be more improbable than a change in the laws of nature, in the case he relates. For example, in the book of Joshua, we are told, the sun stood still several hours. Were we to read that fact in Livy or Tacitus, we should class it with their showers of blood, speaking of statues, beasts, &c. But it is said, that the writer of that book was inspired. Examine, therefore, candidly, what evidence there is of his having been inspired. The pretension is entitled to your inquiry, because millions believe it. On the other hand, you are astronomer enough to know how contrary it is to the law of nature that a body revolving on its axis, as the earth does, should have stopped, should not, by that sudden stoppage, have prostrated animals, trees, buildings, and should after a certain time gave resumed its revolution, & that without a second general prostration. Is this arrest of the earth's motion, or the evidence which affirms it, most within the law of probabilities? You will next read the New Testament. It is the history of a personage called Jesus. Keep in your eye the opposite pretensions: 1, of those who say he was begotten by God, born of a virgin, suspended & reversed the laws of nature at will, & ascended bodily into heaven; and 2, of those who say he was a man of illegitimate birth, of a benevolent heart, enthusiastic mind, who set out without pretensions to divinity, ended in believing them, and was punished capitally for sedition, by being gibbeted, according to the Roman law, which punished the first commission of that offence by whipping, & the second by exile, or death in fureâ. See this law in the Digest Lib. 48. tit. 19. §. 28. 3. & Lipsius Lib 2. de cruce. cap. 2. These questions are examined in the books I have mentioned under the head of religion, & several others. They will assist you in your inquiries, but keep your reason firmly on the watch in reading them all.

Do not be frightened from this inquiry by any fear of its consequences. If it ends in a belief that there is no God, you will find incitements to virtue in the comfort and pleasantness you feel in its exercise, and the love of others which it will procure you. If you find reason to believe there is a God, a consciousness that you are acting under his eye, & that he approves you, will be a vast additional incitement; if that there be a future state, the hope of a happy existence in that increases the appetite to deserve it; if that Jesus was also a God, you will be comforted by a belief of his aid and love. In fine, I repeat, you must lay aside all prejudice on both sides, and neither believe nor reject anything, because any other persons, or description of persons, have rejected or believed it. Your own reason is the only oracle given you by heaven, and you are answerable, not for the rightness, but uprightness of the decision. I forgot to observe, when speaking of the New Testament, that you should read all the histories of Christ, as well of those whom a council of ecclesiastics have decided for us, to be Pseudo-evangelists, as those they named Evangelists. Because these Pseudo-evangelists pretended to inspiration, as much as the others, and you are to judge their pretensions by your own reason, and not by the reason of those ecclesiastics. Most of these are lost. There are some, however, still extant, collected by Fabricius, which I will endeavor to get & send you.


http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/jefferson_carr.html
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:10 PM
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1. Yes it should
Should be posted in schools instead of the ten commandments.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:19 PM
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2. Absolutely...n/t
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:22 PM
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3. Big kick for my favorite prez
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:24 PM
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4. Their is no doubt in my mind it should be and Teachers should
be guided on how to help Mid or High School kids understand the contents.
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Tommymac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 08:25 PM
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5. Indeed. nt
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 09:26 PM
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6. Does anyone know how old Peter Carr was upon receipt of
such sage advice? I'd be curious to know...
Thanks~
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:04 PM
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7. Peter Carr was 17 at the time of this letter
http://www.ishipress.com/pafg13.htm

Peter CARR was born on 21 Jan 1770. He died in 1815

The letter was sent in 1787.
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poverlay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-14-05 11:40 PM
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8. Thanks Quixote1818. I appreciate the help... n/t
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:07 AM
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9. I don't know what to say. Isn't it insulting to AA because he held slaves?
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Alien8ed Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:40 AM
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10. Yes
The author of the Virginia Statutes for Religious Freedom certainly has the Authority to speak upon the subject, in every aspect and regard, and should be heard by every student, wherever they are.

My sole reservation is that I wonder whether the teachers, being the highly paid educators provided, can adequately understand Jefferson's letter and thereafter teach it to anyone.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:50 AM
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11. TJ is my hero
Too bad most students aren't encouraged to use their minds to question all, so that they can come to their own conclusion in a logical fashion.

Its a much stronger mind that comes to conclusions after reflection and research, than one that simply regurgitates what he has been told to memorize and believe.
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Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:00 AM
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12. That was awesome. Thank you for posting this.
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