My fear: (besides global warming) Rove will = Nixon's defeat to Repubs

[iconoclastic cat]

I remember reading that the whole enmity after Nixon was behind the hunting of the Clintons. If Rove (or any others) are booted, what will they do to the country then? Burn the cities to the ground?

[SharonAnn]

1. What does it matter? They'll do it regardless. Don't be afraid!

[okieinpain]

4. ain't that the truth.

[DURHAM D]

2. I think you should realize that the hunting of Bush/Rove

might to some degree be payback for the hounding of Clinton.

Speaking just for myself, however.

[Danger Duck]

3. an eye for an eye

leaves the whole world blind.

The majority of the country doesn't care. About this or any of the other scandals; Iraq, Gannon, Haliburton, ect.....

Just so you can say you heard it hear first:

Rove will remain on the staff, and this will somehow blow up in our face. HE wouldn't have released Cooper from their confidentiality agreement otherwise. Most likely, it will be a repeat of the Dan Rather fiasco. Rove is setting us up for a fall here. There is obviously another source, hence the other reporter going to jail. That source is going to turn the whole thing upside down.

[Der Blaue Engel]

7. They'd like us to give up and think no one cares

but they have another think coming. Pride cometh before a fall.

[Danger Duck]

9. Ok, come on.

Let's be objective. They ruined the economy, started an unjust and horrific endless war, allowed a male prostitute ultimate access ot the White House, and have put the braked on scientific research that would propell medicine in a whole new direction, and you think this Rove deal is going to captivate the attention of the nation?

[Der Blaue Engel]

11. Not sure why you're chewing this bone

but yeah, I think treason is a pretty big deal that people ARE paying attention to, despite all the disinfo and distractions and demoralizing attempts of the right.

[DURHAM D]

8. Little Scooter has been set up for the fall. eom

[Der Blaue Engel]

5. Or it might be because they simply have it coming

for all of their criminal, lying, sack-of-shit, treasonous behavior.

[Bucky]

10. Problem with your theory, Durham D, is why they waited to NOW to hunt them

The Bushies have been doing semi illegal stuff since they walked in the door five and a half very long years ago. If Washington Democrats were truly only motivated by revenge over Clinton--whom most of them didn't really care for anyway--then why did they sit on their hands for the past five years of gratuitous wars, terror-baiting, and gradual dismantling of Constitutional protections?

This isn't the first opportunity to take a fly at exposing Bush scandals. It's only the first so blatant that establishment Democrats couldn't ignore it. I don't doubt that some of them will enjoy the sport of dogging Bush out of effectiveness, but let's look at what we're trying to be politically effective about--keeping neanderthals off the Supreme Court, saving Social Security from privatization, and keeping the Bill of Rights in tact.

Democrats have been sleeping on the job for half a decade now and I'm glad to see them finally stirring a bit.

[DURHAM D]

12. Speak for yourself Bucky - I have been doing everything I can

to chase down the hateful Repugs since the Arkansas Project began.

What is happening now is not because of anything that started in DC. How could the federal Dems do anything ? - they don't have control of a single thing. It has to be the people. People like the 73,000 plus members of DU that can't go to bed at night because they are addicted to information. Information that we can only get here.

Because of this venue and other places on the internet we have found each other, we are sharing with each other, we are motivating each other, we are holding our representatives feet to the fire and, most importantly, we are chasing after the media whores and causing them to actually be embarassed by their own incompetence.

This venue is our street. Thank god for the internet. I have marched on Washington soo many times I have lost count. Frankly, I am too old to march anymore - now I get to march and raise hell while lounging in my ergonomically designed chair.

[Bucky]

13. Well then, speaking for myself, I'm motivated by justice, not revenge

What Rove did to the Wilsons bothers me, not because of what Starr did to Clinton, but because what Rove did was wrong, immoral, and put many lives in danger. I want to see him punished, not because other Republicans used the Lewinsky scandal to stall Clinton's domestic agenda, but because he broke the law.

I don't bear grudges. Rove certainly didn't have a hand in the Clinton impeachment. This tribal-think revenge stuff is bullshit. I don't doubt that some people are motivated that way--including you, it seems--but I think for hte most part Democrats tend to be rational and fair minded to a fault. It's in the mix there, somewhere, but hardly what you'd call the main reason behind hounding Rove from office.

The real problem with Rove is the man is a security risk.

[DURHAM D]

15. He is way more than a security risk but if that is the one issue you

want to focus on, okay.

[RaleighNCDUer]

16. Only, Clinton got a BJ

while Rove committed treason.

[napi21]

6. I've heard too that the treatment of Clinton was payback

for what the Dems did to Nixon, and I'm sure there's some truth to that. The thing is, this kind of I'll get you back determination dosent stop there, and I don't see it stopping any time soon.

Look at the voting on judicial nominees. Way too many times I hear about Bork, or how Thomas was treated, and we're going to get back at you for "something".

Our Gov't, and we the people all seem to be focused on a payback mentality. I admit, so am I a lot of the time!

I don't think it will matter if Rove, or this whole admin goes down in flames or not. That I'll get yu back attitude will still live on.

[wookie294]

14. I have thought the same thing

Also, if we lose the war in Iraq, these rabid right wingers will definitely blame the "almighty liberal" and "Dan Rather" for the loss. They will be foaming at the mouth. I expect more "Timothy McVeighs" when (not if) we lose the Iraq war. And another impeachment inquiry or Rove's ouster will probably get a few liberals killed by rabid right wing freaks.