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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:09 AM
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I'm curious: Who here thinks Bushco may be the death of him/her?
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 01:19 AM by DerekG
Note: My intention is not to foster or nurture such fears; it is merely to gauge them.

Who here thinks that the policies of this administration might sire a blowback that becomes *very* personal? When you look into the eyes of Bush, do you ever think, "This man might be the death of me?"

Ever worry about dying in a terrorist attack? Or, if we are indeed on the cusp of totalitarianism, do you ever imagine yourself being shipped off to an American-brand Gulag?

On edit: One has to wonder what was going on in the heads of (sane) Germans as the bombs began to fall on Dresden, Hamburg, etc...
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:11 AM
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1. jeeeezzzzzzzzzzzzz
how am i going to fall to sleep now?
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:15 AM
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2. It's killing me so far.
I would never have believed things could get so much worse so fast.
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:22 AM
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9. I'm with you, I feel like I'm going to go crazy
witnessing what is happening and being absolutely powerless to stop it. I see other try and get fired or suicided (I do think that happens). Then I see the democrats voting almost identically and feel like it's one of those movies where the people who are supposed to be the good guys turn out to be in on it with the criminals.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:25 AM
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11. I think that movie was called "Revenge of the Sith"
And I have to wonder how many Palpatines there are who have a (D) before their names.
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rawtribe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:15 AM
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3. Must have an exit plan
:yoiks:
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:15 AM
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4. I do.
All the time.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:16 AM
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6. Sometimes
I think about it. Anything could happen now and I know we are not safer and that our ports and boarders are wide open. Anybody can be planning anything and could have connections here in the States and all types of stuff. My town isn't a big major city or anything like that so I feel a little safer and I have a good independent mayor and a democratic governor. I'm glad I don't live in a big city like NYC, Boston, LA.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:45 AM
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14. What really frighetens me is that I read something a while back
where someone interviewed survivors of formerly peaceful societies hijacked by violent,totalitarian regimes and they all said that "we didn't know what was happening until it was too late."

That's my fear, that one day we will wake up and find ourselves in some Orwellian nightmare. The line will be crossed and there will be no escape, no hope, no future. That and the fact that I live in NYC and ride the subway.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:16 AM
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5. They may put me in a wheelchair for life...
I was diagnosed with MS last year, and since my husband is self-employed and I am a student, I have to rely on medical assistance for my daily injections (they cost $1800 per month). Our laughably small income may make us ineligable for assistance because as they keep hacking federal funds for the program, the state lowers the income threshold. Without the shots, my disease may progress rapidly, so these evil bastards scare the hell out of me! On a lighter note, I'm pretty sure I'll outlive Dick Cheney.:mad: :argh:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:18 AM
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7. I'm sorry
:( These people have caused so much pain and heart break. :cry: I know I'm one of the lucky people even if I don't have health insurance. I have a dad who has a good job and live comfortably. Sometimes I hate all that has happened since 2000 and those jerk's stole it from Gore.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:22 AM
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8. Take heart .................
IIRC almost NOBODY dies of MS (though at times they may wish to); it is a disease people have to adjust to LIVING with.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:24 AM
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10. No, I don't.
I don't think he'll be the literal death of me. Not at all. I think someday I'll be telling my great-grandchildren what it was like to live through the administration of the Worst US President Ever.

I have a looooooong memory. His name shall be tarnished forevermore.

:D
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:29 AM
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12. I don't know if it will kill me, but who knows what is on the horizon for
us? It seems like we've got no one looking after us. The Busheviks are taking, destroying, polluting, killing, stealing and generally fucking up everything they touch. Social Security, pension cuts, no bankruptcy protection, massive deficit, an illegal war that is slowly bankrupting the US, a horrible energy policy, no regard for the environment...what will be left for our children?? A large, bankrupt, festering cesspool if things continue.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:35 AM
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13. Probably not
I s'pose if they fired the draft up and got to whatever low priority women in thier twenties with kids would be at and I got denied CO status then couldn't get out of it by leaving the country or maintaining a continual state of pregnancy and lactation for a few years, my life might be at risk. That scenario is unlikely in the extreme, though.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:45 AM
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15. I think about death.
I live in a major port city, and I heard recently about DHS's fears that a nuke could come in, like its pretty viable. This is alarming. But on death, that's where my real thoughts were. I had the thought: Geeze, I wish my government would get ethical I wouldn't fear death so much.
Having these thoughts has nothing to do with appeazing terrorists so they don't attack, its about appeasing the One who I am going to have to deal with after I die. That's the one I'm worried about pissing off, and I don't want to have to explain to Him about how I stood by and kept paying taxes knowing that people were being tortured.

Really the whole torture/posing prisoners for gay sex at gunpoint thing really is the most devastating piece of anti-american propaganda I have ever seen, and its not even propaganda, its truth. I mean, have you ever seen a movie where the good guys take the bad guys hostage and sexually torture them? No. That's the thing, we are seeing images that show us we are the bad guys. Not fearing death when you know you are on the good side is one thing, but once you feel you are on the other side, its a LOT more scary for people!
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 01:56 AM
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16. I've never heard another DUer articulate my own fear--divine judgment
Not the fear of Hell, mind you, but the fear of hearing Christ tell me--"Those Iraqi children were my babies; what did *you* do to defend them?"--and then realizing that nothing I've done in my life could be used in my answer.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:02 AM
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17. Death just isn't as scary when you know you're doing the right thing.
Strange, but at least for me, very true.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:08 AM
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19. But what is "the right thing?" What is does it mean to do enough?
Casting a vote?

Holding a sign up at a rally before retreating to a cafe?

Should one be a war tax resister?

Be part of a relief effort?

Wage non-violent resistance against a criminal government?



At what point does one cease to be a good German?
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:50 AM
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22. I've struggled with that a lot.
I think most people of conscience have. The only answer that has come is that I have to do "my part". What that part is, I think is different for everybody. It challenges us down to our core to figure out what we really believe in, what your willing to bet on as far as moral action when your future is on the line.

For me, I have come to believe that everything is connected and the small things are vastly important. I believe being ethical in your small scale actions can have huge effects in the world. As gadhi said, your part is infinitly small but it is infinitly important that you do it.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:04 AM
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18. I got over that a long time ago.
Now I just dream of revenge.
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Aplomado Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:09 AM
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20. Not me
We'll survive Bush.

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PowerToThePeople Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 02:45 AM
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21. My dinking eill be the deah of me
though alot of that lies in the nature af the nation/life I live in, that will be the dimise of this guy. I do not put it on anone else, because, the world is is what it is. Either love it, or leave it. I choose to leave it long ago. Just a matter of time till it comes to fruit. Damn, I pray for that day. I do believe we, as a species, are capable of so much more, but it will not happen- if ever - for many generations. fuck it all. Live for the day, and maybe, tomorrow. shit, I got to work in the morning, and have had a little to drink. Need to sleep. Later, all the caring paople of this nation. You have my respect.
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