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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:55 AM
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This is why Clark makes me very nervous
This is from a March 2003 Salon interview with Wesley Clark:

Tapper (Salon interviewer):

"Of the people who are running this war, from Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld and Powell on down, in terms of the political appointees, are there are any who you particularly like who you would work with again, hypothetically, in some ..."

Clark:

"I like all the people who are there. I've worked with them before. I was a White House Fellow in the Ford administration when Secretary Rumsfeld was White House chief of staff and later Secretary of Defense, and Dick Cheney was the deputy chief of staff at the White House and later the chief.

Paul Wolfowitz I've known for many, many years. Steve Hadley at the White House is an old friend. Doug Feith I worked with very intensively during the time we negotiated the Dayton Peace Agreement; he was representing the Bosnian Muslims then, along with Richard Perle. So I like these people a lot. They're not strangers. They're old colleagues.
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The whole interview is at http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/03/24/clark/
but that's the scary part.

He LIKES Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld and Feith?

Clark supporters, please tell me why this should not give me great pause when I am weighing which Democrat to support in this race.

s_m
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 11:56 AM
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1. You're late
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 11:57 AM by HFishbine
This post is supposed to appear every twenty minutes. You're three minutes late.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:00 PM
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2. It doesn't matter anyway
they will just claim it is a Right-Wing conspiracy and dismiss it. Which it may very well be, but not in the matter which they believe.

If these represent Democratic voters we are in serious trouble.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:10 PM
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7. Thanks for enlightening me
I used to think I was a real Democrat but now I know I'm wrong :eyes:
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:14 PM
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9. If this is a RW conspiracy
Then why is the RW trying so desperately to smear Clark?

Is it your contention that the slurs of Clark are part of the conspiracy?
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Girlfriday Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:00 PM
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3. LOL
:thumbsup:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:03 PM
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4. Has any Clark ´supporter seriously explained why this is OK???
:shrug:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:05 PM
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5. It's OK
because at the top levels of government/politics/military, it's NOT all personal. People don't HATE their opponents.

Witness the close friendship between Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:08 PM
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6. thanks, but I'll take Dean
who at least refers to their crowd as "radical ideologues" rather than long-time chums.
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Blue_Chill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:14 PM
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8. OK good luck
But when Dean loses to Clark don't be a sore loser and vote green.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:21 PM
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14. wtf?
But when Clark loses to Dean don't be a sore loser and vote republican.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:42 PM
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17. I suppose that is fair enough.
I'm still worried that we going to have two (essentially) Republicans on the ballot in November 2004.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:16 PM
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10. Sounds like he's being diplomatic
on the cusp of a war.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:23 PM
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15. Just what we need
a big strong general who plays it safe rather than exposing the truth.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:17 PM
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11. Like Krugman consulting for Enron, he's also denouncing them
So does Clark expose PNAC:
 " I WENT BACK through the Pentagon in November 2001, and one of
the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were
still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This
was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and
there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria,
Lebanon, Libya, Iran, Somalia, and Sudan. So, I thought, this is what
they mean when they talk about “draining the swamp.” It was evidence of
the Cold War approach: Terrorism must have a “state sponsor,” and it
would be much more effective to attack a state than to chase after
individuals, nebulous organizations, and shadowy associations.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/969671.asp?0bl=-0
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:17 PM
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12. My post was not a bait or a bash
And even if I'm three minutes late, I'm still seriously trying to figure out this person. Why did he not distance himself from the very scary politics of those men when he had such a great opportunity? He could have also said that he doesn't dislike them personally, but the fact that he made no mention of their pre-emptive strike predilections does seriously disturb me.

s_m





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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:19 PM
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13. Try searching for info.
There have been multiple threads on this topic over the past couple of days--a quick search would pull them right up.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:25 PM
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16. Again?
How many times is this gonna come up?

And so what if he likes them. It still doesn't mean he is one.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 01:56 PM
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19. "This" is going to come up
as many times as it takes to show the real clark.

So what if he likes the sickest, greediest, most vile scum in our country? The scum that want to keep us in endless wars. The scum that want to bankrupt all but the top 1% of us? The scum that want to do away w/any and all social programs that makes us the democratic country we strive to be? The scum that brought us 9/11?

Why would any sane person, much less one that is running for the Democratic Party like that scum? It says a hell of a lot about what kind of person he is. And it ain't one that I want for president.
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Charlls Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 12:51 PM
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18. what you expect from a militar?
Edited on Fri Sep-26-03 12:54 PM by Charlls
militars attain glory only in war. They just loves how it smells burn flesh. I would prefer Kucinich to compete with Dean if you ask me. Hes the only true democrat on the set :smoke:
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 07:02 PM
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23. thanks for smearing all service personnel, incuding my parents & brothers
all who happen to be long-term liberal democrats and who all believe that it is honorable to serve their country.

have you no respect for the men and women who have served this country and were willing to defend with their lives your freedoms?

i carried my uncle's casket who died on a battlefield, my father carries wounds from the korean war, my granfather and uncle carry wounds from WWII.

your remark is so cheap, so stupid, and so ugly that i find you a repugnant human being.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:06 PM
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20. Since Clark officially joined the race so recently, I don't think
we have heard enough from him to make an accurate judgment yet. However, this is worrisome. For me, my doubts came when I took that SelectSmart test which determines which of the candidates most agree with your views. Kucinich came in first for me, with 100%, and most of the other Dems, like Kerry, Edwards, Gephardt, Dean and Sharpton were in my top dozen. However, Clark came in dead last, with a minus number, way behind even Bush*! What does that tell me?:shrug:
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RIindependent Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:17 PM
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21. Clark did okay says Dean.
I'm a Dean fan and if Dean says he did ok at the debate that translates IMO to 'hey, don't bust his balls, I might need him for my VP'. Who ever the dem canidate is, I will vote for him/her. I will not vote for bush. Ain't the democratic process great. I love politics.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-26-03 06:30 PM
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22. I'm enjoying the process, as well. It's great fun and I'm learning a lot
I cannot believe that I ignored so much for so long. Of course, I have only voted for two presidential candidates that actually won, Clinton and Gore!:-)

I did hear that Dean was thinking of Clark as his running mate, but that was before Clark declared his candidacy.:shrug:

Welcome to DU, RIindependent! Glad to have you aboard!:toast:
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