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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:42 AM
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Foxs news this morning claimed
the person inside the admin who will be indicted is Ari Flecher. Anyone heard or read this anywhere
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:43 AM
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1. What?? Who on Fox said that?
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:49 AM
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9. On Fox and Friends
Steve Doocy reported Ari Flesher. I have read nothing mentioning Ari.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:43 AM
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2. Ari is the Fall Guy?
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:45 AM
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4. My thoughts exactly
I think it was the report was to combat a report by an anonymous source inside the admin would me indicted
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:52 AM
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12. TheFloyd, Huh?!?!?!?!
"I think it was the report was to combat a report by an anonymous source inside the admin would me indicted."

I'm sorry...I think my head just exploded. WHAT?!?!?!
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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:57 AM
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16. There is an article in a Washinton Times
article quoting an anonymous source saying someone in the admin will be indicted
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:07 PM
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37. That would make sense if that was why Ari left when he did...
...but didn't Ari "plan to leave in advance to tend to family" or something?

Was that just something said to save face, or was that a pre-established fact?
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MemphisTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:45 AM
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3. That's typical, hang the Jew all over again
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:45 AM
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5. He's not in the admin anymore
so I guess that makes him the perfect fall guy. Has Ari testified?
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:46 AM
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6. nice of Fitzgerald to confide in them
:sarcasm:

also convenient that the target is someone no longer at the White House. Anyone care for some roasted scapegoat with a side order of bullshit?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:47 AM
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7. If true
we can't let them get away with it.
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Alien8ed Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:52 AM
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13. Sideswiped
Ari got fairly uncomfortable in the old, white barn's stable, just shortly before he departed.

He may be a leak - but more like the guy who leaked the name of the guy who did the leaking to Novak, Cooper and Miller.

That's a lot of leaking.

Can't any of those people figure out how to use a toilet?
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:54 AM
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14. Welcome to DU, Alien8ed.......
I love your screen name.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:02 AM
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19. Welcome Alien8ed
and good post.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:06 PM
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36. Hi Alien8ed!
Welcome to Du. :hi:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:06 PM
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35. If Ari was involved
he could have had the security to get the name's to give to Rove. Rove didn't have that kind of security did he? Did Ari? He left the day the Novak article came out.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 08:17 PM
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39. He was a press secretary. There'd be no good reason for him to have that
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 08:19 PM by Jim Sagle
kind of access, and plenty of good reason - plausible deniability - for him not to have it. Presidential press secretaries are typically kept in the dark to facilitate administration lies.

And how likely is it that Ari had security clearance and Karl doesn't? That doesn't pass the "Haw haw haw!" test.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:49 AM
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8. I'm betting persons, pural.

In fact, we should start a "guess the number of jellybeans" contest for the total number of counts on the indictments. Anyone want to offer up a prize?

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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:50 AM
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10. Wow ! If not true, Ari's got a major slander case for Mark Geragos!
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:50 AM
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11. I thought the WP story on 7/13 implied Ari + two others .... and
in reading between the lines, it sounds to me like Fitz is dangling a plea bargain in front of Ari.
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Beaver Tail Donating Member (903 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:54 AM
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15. Maybe this is an attempt
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 10:00 AM by Beaver Tail
To embarrass the MSM again. Remember what happened to Dan Rather? It didn’t matter that the story about Bush in the Texas Air National Guard was TRUE. The Spin got him in a lot of trouble. This may be another attempt to destroy careers in the MSM of people who speak out agains the WH. They are all over Rove. If they can put the finger on someone else it will show "The Liberial Media" as after Bush.
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:57 AM
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17. Ari resigned the day she was outed ...
Hmmmmmm.

Cheers
Drifter
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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:10 AM
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26. WOW! He resigned that day?
What was that about? Was it a coincidence? Was it the last straw for Ari and he just couldn't take it anymore after putting up with numerous other criminal activities in the administration? Or was he involved, and the admin pushed him out assuring themselves they had a fall guy if the story continued?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 09:58 AM
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18. Key words: "conspiracy" "cover-up" "White" "House" "Fitz"
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 10:02 AM by jsamuel
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:02 AM
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20. Would the WH press secretary know such things?
I wasn't aware they were involved with the identities of undercover CIA agents.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:04 AM
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21. He was part of WHIG
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:05 AM
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23. Exactly, the question still remains,
who, then, told Ari?
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:19 AM
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28. I expect this is just another distraction
I feel like I'm playing a dysfunctional game of Clue.

It was Rove in the kitchen with a lead pipe!
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Tamarin Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:38 AM
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29. Haha, or Col. Cheney in the Boardroom with
the documents!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:40 AM
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30. Yes, I like that one much better!
:toast:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:31 PM
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38. Supposedly there are only 4 or 5 people with the NOC list,
the Head of the CIA, the President, and the Vice President being among the very few.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:04 AM
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22. CORRECTION: Fox news HOPES AND PRAYS
They are praying that it will be Ari.

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Verve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:14 AM
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27. LOL! Fox and their Faith!
If you pray enough anything can happen. (It helps to have a corrupted government that can assist them in their prayers.)
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:06 AM
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24. Divert, Distort, Confuse.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:41 AM
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31. can I quote that?
that is exactly Rove's tactics right now
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 11:20 AM
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32. Please Do.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:04 PM
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34. :D
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Bumblebee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 10:07 AM
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25. That would be very convenient for the WH, indeed
but he also knows a lot and does not have a WH job to protect so there would be a certain advantage there in Ari possibly spilling the beans.

I think we are all hyperventilating right now. The next big event should be Cooper's article. I suspect it will appear next week (or I hope so), and until then we should just hold our collective breath and use it sparingly to correct the outrageous lies on the other side (like that Wilson said his wife had not been covert at the time Novak blew her cover -- that one almost cost me a sleepless night!).

I myself am guilty of setting my expectations too high and impatiently hoping every day will be THE DAY when the chickens come home to roost. But it's a marathon we are engaged in right now -- and we do need to pace ourselves. So stay cool and keep hope alive! :)
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 12:01 PM
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33. Hate To Be The Person Responsible For Doing Ari's Laundry . .
particularly his underwear, right about now.

The Ministry of Truth has signaled who will be taking the fall.

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