Moderate repubs and moderate dems are gonna have to step up...

[Postman]

The country is soo polarized at this point in time, in my view, regarding the war in Iraq that some semblance of sanity coming from both sides of the political spectrum are going to have to step up to the plate and come to some reasoned, logical plan to fix our country and it's problems at home and overseas.

Extremism from any direction is not good. I'll admit I've made some extremist, stupid statement's in the past.

I believe it was Ghandi that said - you must become the change you wish to bring about.

To our conservative friends who may be trolling the board, it is time to bring our country together, somehow....

[dogday]

1. One of the ways would be to remove the divider

which in this case is Rove. I have said if we all come together as Americans, instead of Partisans, we could of already made a difference in bringing this administration down.

What is happening should concern everyone, not just the Democrats, but as long as the Republicans are fed their lines, it is a hard task indeed....

[Malingerer]

10. Why exactly.....

Is Rove such a big deal? Fill me in folks... what did he actually do? I can't make heads or tails from all the different stories I've been hearing.

[Postman]

11. Whatever he did is speculation at this point...

the facts are what gets testified to in the Grand Jury, everything else is grist for the political spin-mill.

It is alleged that he "outed" a CIA agent.

[yardwork]

2. Moderates are welcome to step up. I've been radicalized

I no longer describe myself as a Democrat. I now self-identify as a Democratic Socialist.

I went from considering myself a moderate Democrat to calling myself a Socialist in five short years. I'm prepared to go further to the left as needed.

I have no interest in playing patty-cake with anybody in the middle.

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. But patty-cake is just so darned fun :^P

[yardwork]

7. ok, well you got a point there! lol!

[Malingerer]

13. what was it...

That pushed you to the point of considering yourself a socialist? Was it one big momentus decision or a slow change?

edit: spelling

[tk2kewl]

4. it's time to jail the criminals...

and then purge the repuke party of those that facillitate the criminals.

then we can talk about coming together. IMO

[justinsb]

5. Moderates aren't going to solve anything

- The US is up to it's neck in debt
- China's economy is the only thing growing faster than the US debt
- US jobs are leaving permanently, and both the status quo and protectionist measures designed to protect the US economy will hurt the economy and cause rampant inflation.
- Oil is dwindling rapidly, and is only going to become more and more expensive
- Although it is talked about very little , a looming water shortage and it's impact on agriculture will dwarf peak oil as a problem in the 21st century
- Far from winning "hearts and minds" Bush has launched a war on terror, lost it and alienated millions if not billions of people, and used up all 'political capital' and credibility the US had in the world

Half measures, special committees to study the problem and 'feel good' measures that only look good on the surface are not going to solve any of this. The US has never been in so much trouble as a country.

[Postman]

8. So what is the "solution"?

n/t

[justinsb]

15. That is the question you should ask those who want to lead

I could go on forever about possible solutions, but none of them are going to be easy, quick or convenient and I am not in a position to impliment them anyway.

[Malingerer]

14. water shortage?

What is the cause of a future water shortage? If the earth continues to warm up, more water will vaporize and the earth should become more moist... not less.

[justinsb]

16. Sea levels will rise

and flood the coasts and low lying areas but that is sea water, and even if it is not too polluted to use desalanization plants are extremely expensive and are not being built at the moment. From what I understand global warming will mean less rain, but the glaciers and polar caps will melt, that's where the extra water will come from.

[maxsolomon]

6. let me know how that works out

moderates in the Senate kept clinton from being convicted in his impeachment, which i guess was good.

there's an awful lot of pressure being put on "moderates"; moderate muslims, moderate christians, moderate liberals & conservatives. they're all supposed to reign in us crazy "extremists".

but that "extremism" is only coming from ONE SIDE, the right. there is no "extremist left" in America; they were all killed or jailed before ww2. mccarthyism merely drove the remnants of the left into obscurity. in America today, you can't even say "socialism" without being dismissed out of hand.

what is being demonized as "extreme" nowadays is pretty milquetoast lefty. a "liberal" is NOT a "leftist", neccessarily. Liberalism IS moderate. if you think Michael Moore is an "extremist", you're part of the problem.

[Postman]

9. I agree with you.

I believe in capitalism. But we have to find a way for capitalism to work for the benefit of us all not just the very wealthy.

Is THAT socialism? I don't know and I don't care but the only way to save the goose that lays the golden egg is to make sure everybody has enough eggs.

[lvx35]

12. I feel the same way, but its tough.

I just feel its hard at this point to find moderate conservatives, and we the dems can't always be the ones stepping forward, or else its like "sure, NOW you want moderation...when your guy was president you didn't!"

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

17. Moderates are too busy covering their asses to do anything.

And, why is polarization so bad? Change usually occurs in a polarized society.

[mmonk]

18. Some things which have been happening

are a threat to our form of government and our laws. Until that threat is gone, there will be no coming together for me. Either we continue the country we had or we fight.