Joe Wilson even said his wife wasn't covert

[TheFarseer]

at the time of her 'outing' In some interview he said that according to RW talking points. What's the story here?

[tridim]

1. He said she wasn't covert AFTER she was outed

by the Robert "Douchebag for Liberty" Novak.

[Jax]

2. See this thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4112007

[Canuckistanian]

3. Idiotic word parsing.

Wilson says "my wife wasn't a covert agent when Novak reported it."

He meant AFTER Novak reported it his wife was out of a job.

[shraby]

4. That's been clarified...what he meant

was when her cover was blown, she was no longer undercover. AP ran a retraction to its affiliates clarifying the statement.

[yankeedem]

5. Media Matters.org

http://mediamatters.org/items/200507150003

AP retracted the story, if you watch the accompanying video you will see that he said "At the time he outed her, she wasn't covert", meaning her undercover career ended the minute Novakula's article appeared. The video, and the inflection of Wilson's voice makes it pretty clear.

[Tempest]

6. His statement was misunderstood by the morons on the right

He clarified it this morning.


In an interview Friday, Wilson said his comment was meant to reflect that his wife lost her ability to be a covert agent because of the leak, not that she had stopped working for the CIA beforehand.

His wife's "ability to do the job she's been doing for close to 20 years ceased from the minute Novak's article appeared; she ceased being a clandestine officer," he said


I thought his original statement was pretty straight forward, he was blaming Novak for his wife no longer being a covert agent.

[Sanity Claws]

7. Not true

He said that as soon as she was outed, she was no longer covert. They're twisting words around and taking them out of context. There are some threads on that here. Sorry I don't have the links readily available.

[Innoma]

8. I think...

I think what he meant by that statement was that his wife's status as an agent became inoperable when her identity was made known.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. He said she wasn't covert when the Vanity Fair article came out

and that was 6 months AFTER she was outed by Novak.

So yes he said she wasn't covert. But any repukelican who repeats that talking point needs to be reminded that they are leaving out the end of his exact quote.

[LSK]

10. then why did the CIA report the crime to the justice department???

[EVDebs]

15. You mean the Judith Miller/OperationMockingbird crimes LOL ?

which are domestic CIA propaganda crimes ? They can't exactly tell on themselves now can they ? If Miller and Novak are Non-Official-Cover propaganda mouthpieces on the CIA payroll they aren't about to open Pandora's Box for their paymaster.

[imenja]

11. she moved back and forth

between working overseas as a covert operative and serving as an analyst at Langley. She also was involved in an undercover company that served as cover for other operatives. Disclosing Plame's identity destroyed the usefulness of that company and compromised a number of CIA assets. The NYTimes even reported today that someone in the Middle East was killed as a result of the Plame outing.

[Disturbed]

17. More desperate RW twisting of the truth goes on now.

The Rethugs are trying everything they can to clean the shit off of themselves but the stink never goes away.

[imenja]

18. as long as it stays in the news, it hurts Bush

Spin or not

[Totally Committed]

12. It's ridiculous...

she was working undercover for a company that dealt with WMD. Of course she was covert! Why would a man as smart as Wilson have pitched such a fit?

And why, if she wasn't covert, was burnig her such a big deal that it shut down the company she was working for AND the sting they were working on?

Why are we always so ready to believe this RW bullshit, instead of trusting our own people?

TC

[TheFarseer]

23. I didn't believe this

I knew there was a logical explanation as to why this was bullsh*t and thank you to all who helped me understand this. They never completely make things up, they always take something completely out of context and spin it, distort it and ignore the 9/10ths of the story that doesn't help them.

[democracyindanger]

13. Answer

from atrios:

Moronosphere


The wingnutosphere, in association with the associated press, is very excited about this interview with Wilson, specifically the bolded line:


BLITZER: But the other argument that's been made against you is that you've sought to capitalize on this extravaganza, having that photo shoot with your wife, who was a clandestine officer of the CIA, and that you've tried to enrich yourself writing this book and all of that.

What do you make of those accusations, which are serious accusations, as you know, that have been leveled against you.

WILSON: My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity.
BLITZER: But she hadn't been a clandestine officer for some time before that?

WILSON: That's not anything that I can talk about. And, indeed, I'll go back to what I said earlier, the CIA believed that a possible crime had been committed, and that's why they referred it to the Justice Department.

She was not a clandestine officer at the time that that article in Vanity Fair appeared. And I have every right to have the American public know who I am and not to have myself defined by those who would write the sorts of things that are coming out, being spewed out of the mouths of the RNC...



For sentient humans, it's clear what Wilson means - that she ceased to be a clandestine operative the day Novak's column came out. It's also clear from his other comments (as it was clear to Blitzer in conversation) that he has to use such language because he can't acknowledge that she ever was a clandestine operative with direct language.

christ.

[TheDebbieDee]

14. Basically, Wilson said that the day Plame.....

was outed by Nosacks she was no longer covert - could no longer be covert - because her cover was blown.

Of course faux news and other right-wing proprags have distorted this statement.

ETA: Damn, I need to improve my typing speed. Twelve other people posted while I was typing that out!

[Me.]

16. No He Didn't

That answer is being taken completely taken out of context. In one part of his interview with Leslie, Leslies showed the picture of the Wilsons on the cover of Vanity Fair and said how could she be on the cover if she was covert. Wilson said, by the time that came out, months AFTER her identity had been blown by Novak, she , obviously, was no longer covert. This dissembling is all part of the PUG smear campaign. it is part and parcel with their talking points and campaign to absolve Rove.

[cestpaspossible]

19. The title of this thread is a falsehood like every other RW talking point

[Bluebear]

20. Indeed.

[fooj]

21. The AP retracted that story...

CNN corrected their reporting about that, as well.

peace.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

22. What you need to understand is that Wilson is only at liberty

to say so much.

What he said was (pay attention to this wording)"My wife was not a clandestine officer the day that Bob Novak blew her identity."

He "blew her identity" so she was not a a clandestine operative, got it?

It's doublespeak at is best, but it was the only way he could get the message across.

[DELUSIONAL]

24. Listen to Randi Rhodes NOW

she is discussing this and the Right wing nuts are calling her --


THIS is the new talking point to get Rove etc. off the hook. . .

[Tommymac]

25. She just blew that Freeper caller AWAY!!!!

If i wasn't married I'd propose....Luv ya Randi!

:rofl: :yourock: