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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:36 PM
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My personal investigation into Plamegate
Plamegate is bigger than Valerie Plame, Joe Wilson, and Karl Rove. Plamegate is one incident in a whole list of incidents that prove George W. Bush and a Syndicate composed of the Far Right wanted to take Iraq and do whatever it took to take it.

Valerie Plame was most likely outed, maliciously if I might add, by these person(s) who wanted to take Iraq.

There is a map that I have made that will represent what I know.

CNP - (Bush, Ashcroft, Rove, Cheney, and Rumsfeld are all connected to the Council for National Policy)
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Gary Bauer
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PNAC (Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Jeb Bush are all members. So is Bauer)
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White House

Who wanted to take Iraq?
1998 - PNAC and Bush both mention Iraq
1999 - Bush meets with the CNP, very secretive
2001 - Bush has secret plans to take Iraq
2002 - A CNP meeting has a discussion about taking Iraq

This war is not about fighting terrorism! West Africa is being infested with Al Qaeda terrorists as I write this, and Bush has done very little about that.

1. Bush needed Political Capital to go after Iraq. Bush needed 9/11, without 9/11 Bush would never have the Political Capital necessary. 9/11, just a little bit too convenient for the Far Right, don't you think?

2. Why? Shooting 'islamic' terrorists never works out in the end. Why is Bush trying to give America the same fate as the USSR?

I think I that I may have the answer to it all but I am afraid to say what it is.
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YDogg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:44 PM
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1. re: "My personal investigation into Plamegate"
"I think I that I may have the answer to it all but I am afraid to say what it is."

As a Rocky Horror fan, I urge you to "Say It!" :bounce:
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:48 PM
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2. A New Dark Age
For some reason, I believe that the Far Right believes that by attacking Iraq they can start some sort of chain of processes which will affect the world (which we have seen).

Remember, Bush Speak - "I want to spread Democracy" = "I want to spread Oppression"

I believe that the Far Right actually wants to usher in a New Dark Age.

Does that sound a little far-fetched to you?
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:58 PM
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4. Maybe not so much a dark age as armegeddon.
And the other side of the nexus (PNAC) just wants the world domination that comes after armegeddon.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 08:08 PM
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6. Causing chaos and then emerging after the chaos to rule...
Didn't Charles Manson try that?
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 08:16 PM
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7. Armegeddon to reduce the population and protect the oil, but basically
Edited on Fri Jul-15-05 08:17 PM by higher class
they want tax money, no laws, control of the body, womb (for the religious ones), mind, hands and eyes (for the NRA). They want to launder and park their money wherever they want and they don't want us to claim that we are the government and we have been endowed with rights. They don't believe in rights for mere taxpayers. If that is dark enough, that is it, imo. It all equals serfdom or slavery, but death for the weak, death for the wrong color, death for the dependent. They want it just like Germany - they want workers who will supplement their coffers with tax money and buy the products their friend make and able bodies. For now, they want a lot of pretense.

And as famously quoted....they will get it all through dis-reality untelss we wake up. First item on the agenda - vote - paper- manual counting - block out of corporate networks manning the exit polls and calling the election. Take back the elections. Dump the Republican voting machines in the desert for now, then make the Republicans take them all apart and we will figure out a way to vaporize the machines.

Don't allow Armegeddon.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:56 PM
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3. If you are genuinely afraid - your greatest safety probably lies
in revealing as much as you know to the greatest possible number of people. That's what I would feel in your situation: I would give video depositions to my lawyer, I would write letters to fifty people, I would contact the newspapers, I would post on blogs, I would do everything in the world to disseminate the info I had - because as long as you are the single source- that is the source of your fear. (of course, not if anything you know is classified - if that is the case, make step number one getting a lawyer you trust)
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Longhorn79 Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 07:58 PM
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5. So is this like the Pelican Brief?
After you distribute your brief to a small number of highly placed bureaus, you will be targeted by shadowy assassins.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 08:23 PM
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8. OOps! I mean I thought you had actually done a personal investigation
and were actually afraid of what you knew - kind of like "Silkwood"
But shit - you're afraid to say that THEY want to plunge us into a new dark age with themselves as the overlords while we grovel and fight to eat earthworms - shucks - don't be afraid to tell us that - we already know all about that. I thought you had something we really had to be afraid about.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-05 08:24 PM
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9. It's their resolve I'm afraid of
I don't want to believe that there are people who actually want to do this.
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