I think we can find proof of Bush's war plan

[ck4829]

There is one thing that keeps coming to mind.

Bush's 1999 meeting with the Secretive CNP...

This meeting was more than Double Super Secret Background kind of secret.

All that we think we know is speculation.

We must tell Fitzgerald, he MUST investigate the Bush/CNP links!

(Sorry about the Title, I don't know what to say)

[whistle]

1. "Secretive CNP"....what does that stand for?

[ck4829]

2. The Council for National Policy

They are a RW group that the 'liberal' media does not talk about.

Their membership includes Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Oliver North, James Dobson, and more.

Usually some data comes out about their meetings, but nothing but speculation came out of Bush's meeting with them.

It makes me wonder.

[whistle]

9. Those are the Dominionists then

[Monkey see Monkey Do]

3. Council for National Policy

It's a scary fundie org

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=121170&page=1

[earthboundmisfit]

4. A "dramatic turn" in the investigation has been referred to...

perhaps this, exactly, is IT, hmmm? Methinks Fitzgerald may well be on this trail.

[Quakerfriend]

7. You may be right !

I keep asking myself who is working behind the scenes to bring this cabal down. There must be a major effort underway to trap them in some fashion- Kerry and Fitzgerald?? Hagel and ??

[babylonsister]

5. I wonder if minutes of this meeting could be/were

subpoenaed? Maybe Fitzgerald is well ahead of this curve! :think:

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

6. I had to snicker when I read the word plan in your title.

I also don't know what's the CNP.

[PATRICK]

8. Before the 2000 election

the RW Christian groups of Falwell, etc. were strongly using the word "occupation" of government- as opposed to winning and holding democratically. Normally I would not expect much of MIHOP outside the Cheney tight foreign policy circle- not even Rumsfeld. LIHOP hints might be very interesting in context. They love obliquely sharing their secret plans with code words and stupidly clever hints.

I don't think you will find the evidence for LIHOP except as a patchwork of policy short circuits and shifting focus. As of now the hardest thing to get is direct evidence. LIHOP could be as nebulous as directing the entire focus of anti-terror away from defense to offense that enables mainly the Iraq and Empire plan. It could be more if there was other motivation than the usual for scuttling Saudi oversight and blowing off warnings and intel. MIHOP could be simply the motivation of the inner circle disclosed. They are so secretive and despicable they deserve all the speculation one would like to heap upon them.

But speculation is so much fluff compared to evidence. Taking an infinite variety of speculation too seriously can damage the real thing still undisclosed. The point is to shake secrecy loose, not revel in it because any guesser is free to pose as a harmless genius.

Where to look for direct and indirect evidence is itself speculative, but an unexpected place might be the weak point needed to start with- like Rove's probable act of treason. Does what we do know qualify as circumstantial evidence? I think a lot does or at least points to what is needed to investigate.