Of Course, cnn just Treated Harry Potter Book Burners Like Royalty!

[MarianJack]

They showed the fundies at several locations giving their usual "They're going to HELL" treatment because of the magic in the HP books. They showed benedict XVI's comments without reminding us that John Paul II had no objection to HP, and showed a good old fashioned book burning with NO COMMENT from "journalists".

As usual, ChicaAzul & I e-mailed them to give them hell, but maybe we were off base. After all, nobody whose ever burned books has ever caused any problems now, have they? (and I WON'T apologize for the comparison!)

[Eric J in MN]

1. Did they get a comment from a Civil Libertarian? nt

nt

[Cha]

2. We sold Harry Potter

Books at Midnight at our co-op last night. And today was a Harry madhouse..Sold Out! We sell them for about 1/2 the book price cause we're non-profit.

There a more than a few fundies who shop at our store but they haven't dared bitch about our Harry Potter poster for the last month announcing the July 16th Sale DAte.

If they want to boycott the store, fine..but the prices and product is too good for that.:)

So this benedict objects to Harry?

What a Crock!

[Todd B]

3. Ah the Catholic Church - where sex abuse is OK because we have other thing

..things to focus on.

So, appearently illegal, unjust wars and child sex abuse scandals are OK just as long as Harry Potter is banned. :eyes:

I mean, you know, heaven forbid children have a book that is fun and enjoyable to read.. I mean, who wants children to read anyways?

Fundy-watching has become my new favourite sport!

[Cha]

7. Thanks, I hadn't even thought

of all that other stuff goin' on that the pope should be speaking out against..instead of Harry Potter.

Whew, what a Hypocrite!

[acmavm]

5. This Benedict is going to be real bad juju. He's a throwback to the

dark ages.

[Cha]

8. We need to add

"Hypocrite" to his resume!

[lolly]

22. Pope the Rat

Blamed the Holocaust on "secular humanists!" (19 centuries of anti-semitism from the Catholic church apparently had nothing to do with it :eyes: )

Was a Nazi himself

Interferred with investigations into priests molesting children by telling witnesses not to cooperate (IIRC?)

Believes AWOL is a more godly man than John Kerry, an actual Catholic who actually attends church.

Now, he's going after wildly popular children's books.

If this is infallability, I'm first in line to be the next Pope.

[WolverineDG]

4. Sorry, I don't take my book recommendations

from Nazis. Just sayin'.....

dg

[Mythsaje]

6. I almost posted

a pro J.K. Rowling thing yesterday. The fact that these books have done so much to bring kids into reading is something to be lauded, not besmirched. CNN and these pathetic book burners should be laughed at and pitied for their stupidity.

And if they don't like Harry Potter...wait till they get a eyeful of MY stuff.

:evilgrin:

They're NOT going to like it. Where vampires and werewolves are the GOOD guys and religious fanatics are (unknowingly) working for the bad guys?

Heh heh.

[Dragonfli]

10. Your books look interesting

I see that "Loki's Sin" is out.

2 questions:

1.Are there any previous volumes I should read first?
2.where is it for sale?

[Mythsaje]

11. Answers

1. Loki's Sin is the first volume of the series. The only preparation you might consider is checking out my website to get familiar with some of the concepts.

2. It's immediately available in electronic form only (better for the environment than paper copies anyway) from http://www.wingsepress.com. It's about halfway down the first page under "Author Showcase."

Thanks for your interest!

[Dragonfli]

15. Just bought it!

I've just read the first several pages and I Love it!

I wish it was available in hard copy.:cry:
How can I pester the author to you sign my PDF?

And how will the freeps ever burn it?:grr:
like this maybe? :think:

[Mythsaje]

16. Thank you!

A friend of mine has talked about buying the PDFs, burning them, then having me sign the CDs...

I have a little better idea, though. The first book was a trial...the second book (coming out next year) is also going to be released in paperback. If you like, contact me through my website and I'll work out a way to get you an autographed copy of the 2nd book once it comes out.

Sound reasonable?

[Dragonfli]

17. More Than Reasonable - Thanks

[Mythsaje]

19. Just toss me an e-mail

and I'll put you on a mailing list...Or you can join my yahoo group, if you like (it's not like it's that active yet) and I'll keep you up to date.

[GoneOffShore]

23. Not just your stuff

Have any of them run up against 'His Dark Materials' by Phillip Pullman?
Makes Harry look like Peter Pan.

[Astarho]

24. Sounds like my stuff

Pagan gods and spirits are the good guys. Or my first novel when I was going through a Gnostic phase.

:evilgrin:

[Mythsaje]

32. Some are good guys

some, not so good.

What I've done that's out of the norm--at least when you're talking mainstream--is that, in later books especially, some of the good guys are vampires and lycanthropes, and they're scarier than the villains.

Took a cue from Anne Bishop in her Black Jewels trilogy in that...the last thing you want to do is piss off our protagonists. They can be damn ruthless when the chips are down.

[Al-CIAda]

9. This is good. I want more. Expose these freaks for who they are.

I want extensive footage, hell, I want Jeb to ban sales in Fl.

:smoke:

[Mythsaje]

12. Yeah, and while he's at it

I want him to ban sales of MY books too.

:evilgrin: There's nothing like free advertising. Rowling doesn't need it. But I sure do.

:D

[proud patriot]

20. Bingo

:thumbsup:

[pinto]

27. Good point. And, bonfires make for good TV. They'd all be there.

[delhurgo]

13. Do you really think CNN is condoning book burning

because they didn't have an opposing view represented? Im sure they felt it wasn't even necessary, just showing these kooks is enough.

I mean, how ridiculous would it seem to have someone come on and say how wrong book burning is. Is that really necessary?

Youre being way too paranoid and knee-jerk imo. I can't imagine writing letters to CNN about this, Im sure they probably just laughed about it though, as they should.

[Lecky]

14. Not that I advocate burning books or anything

...but those idiots have every right to burn harmless children's books. It would look bad if the journalists showed any bias, besides most sane people realize that those book burning fundies are ignorant morons.

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[Greeby]

21. Worrying

Is it me, or when the Fristians start book burning and record smashing, the only thing missing seems to be the sieg heils? :scared:

[tsuki]

25. I don't understand what they are trying to prove. Don't they have

to BUY the book before they burn it. That is supporting the publishing so by their reasoning they're going to miss the Sky Taxi. Book banning will not happen. Book publishing corporations are no going to miss one cent of profit. They might just start whipping up the fundies to increase sales on books.

Lots of free publicity and extra sales.

[cynatnite]

26. Well, I didn't get that impression at all

They came off as loonie as ever. No one looks good when they burn books whether it's this or mein kampf.

Either way it brings back visions of Nazi book burning. There is no getting around that.

[MisterP]

28. just like AP calling Minutemen vigilante yahoos "agents" in their paeans

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

29. Superstitious motherfuckers have no right even breathing the same air

as the rest of humanity.

[NYC Liberal]

30. Did they look kinda like these ones?

[Greenbeard]

31. how incredibly sad

the hate and anger some of these people must feel to resort to burning books. Perhaps they could learn a little from a religion that promotes peace, love, and kindness to others.

Or perhaps they could just use a better preacher.

[greblc]

33. You know I've read the HP books with my children...

They now have tails and speak in tounges. Maybe the Pope is right?

[muriel_volestrangler]

34. In defence of the Catholic Church (and I don't say that often)

the note sent to the German author a couple of years ago seems to be a quick "oh yes, I'm very glad you're a devout Catholic, I'm sure your concerns are valid" without actually having read the book.

Here's what Vatican Radio broadcast on this, a few days ago:

I've been asked by a lot of people if they should allow their children to read Joanna Rowling's books about the trainee-magician Harry Potter. And the reason why they ask, is that they've heard that some of the content is anti-christian. I can't see that personally.

I was asked once in a press-conference in the Vatican whether I thought the witchcraft and magic in Harry Potter was a bad thing, and I said to the people present: 'did anyone in this room grow up without stories about witches and fairies and magic and spells and mystery and so on and so forth?', and everyone seemed to agree that none of us had grown up without those things. And then I said: 'did it make us into ennemies of the faith, or ennemies of God, or ennemies of the Church?' And people seemed to say: 'no, no'. And I said: 'well, I can't see any problem with Harry Potter, because, really, all the stories are about the victory of good over evil'.
...
I was sent a letter from a lady in Germany who claimed to have written to the then cardinal Ratzinger, saying that she thought Harry Potter was a bad thing. And the letter back, which I suspect was written by an assistent of the then cardinal Ratzinger in his office, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, suggested that there was a subtle seduction in the books. What that subtle seduction was, was not specified, which makes me think it was a generic answer. And she had written a book on these subjects and so the Cardinal's signature was at the bottom of the letter, suggesting she should send me the book.

She sent me the book, and I found it a very unsatisfactory book. I don't think she understands English humour. For example, she said: one sign that these books are making fun of Judaism and Christianity is that Voldemort, the wicked magician, who is the great evil power against whom Harry Potter has to fight, is referred to often as 'he who must not be named', and she takes this as an insult to the name of God in a similar way that Adonai, which is often written as Jawhe, is the name that should not be said in Jewish religion. Well I replied to her: don't you know that even within English families, men who make fun of their relationship with women in a nice, lighthearted way say: oh, she who should not be named, meaning the power in the house, their wife. You know, I think it was meant on that kind of level.

http://catholicinsider.com/scripts/hp_transcript.php

[leftchick]

36. Thank you for the link

I am glad to read this. And Msgr Fleetwood? I do understand why, these people are complaining. They are irrational fundie freaks!

<snip>

I think one has to be quite calm in judging cultural phenomena. I've got a funny feeling that the success of Rowling is what started some people. Is it a kind of envy? I don't know. But why they got so mad against her, I just don't understand.

[Dark]

39. Obviously, (spoiler)

He hasn't read the most recent Potter Book.

I wouldn't say Good triumphed over anything in that episode. . .

[tblue37]

35. Just for the record. I bought the book yesterday evening

and finsihed it up at 2:00 this morning.

Enjoyed it tremendously.

[woodsprite]

40. We're keeping our locked in our trailer until vacation in Aug.

Then we're taking turns reading it to eachother out loud. We've done it with every HP book since the first. Great way to keep the kids quiet and pass the time. :)

[Vinca]

37. Haven't these people every heard of the word FICTION???nt

[Dark]

38. Fundies want kids to play 'Passion', not 'Potter'. n/t

[radfringe]

41. around the time the first HP movie came out

I got into it with a fundy

it was the usual bluster and "mock-rage" about how HP promoted magic and therefore went against christian teachings... yadda yaddda yadddda

and then there was the inevitable "kids will mimic what they read - so they'll go out and try doing magic, putting hexes on people etc..."

so I asked him if he thought kids were unable to differentiate between fact and fiction?

Fundy- Yes - kids will imitate what they see/read etc.

me: if you ask a kid if Harry Potter is a true story or a made up one - they wouldn't be able to answer?

Fundy - Yes, they don't know the difference

me: do your kids read the bible?

Fundy - yes, we read it together as a family

me: If kids are can't tell the difference between fact and fiction - then what are you going to do when your kids try to walk on water, turn water into wine or raise the family pet from the dead? Will you burn the bible too? Forbid them from reading it?

Fundy - that's different......