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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:39 PM
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Do you think they are setting up Powell to take the fall
and, what is this crap about anonymity because of the prosecutor's admonitions about talking about the investigation!!!

Something smells very bad here, anonyomous source, people seeing Powell walking around with THE memorandum. Someone is setting him up for the fall, and will he be a good soldier and take it. Does he think he will end up like North with Iran/contra because of his popularity?

Maybe we will see who the real patriots are soon

"...
The memorandum was sent to Colin L. Powell, then the secretary of state, just before or as he traveled with President Bush and other senior officials to Africa starting on July 7, 2003, when the White House was scrambling to defend itself from a blast of criticism a few days earlier from the former diplomat, Joseph C. Wilson IV, current and former government officials said.

Mr. Powell was seen walking around Air Force One during the trip with the memorandum in hand, said a person involved in the case who also requested anonymity because of the prosecutor's admonitions about talking about the investigation. "


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/16/politics/16memo.html?ei=5088&en=99bfd11cbd301456&ex=1279166400&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&pagewanted=print

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FormerRepublican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:47 PM
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1. Except...
...the memo identifies her as Valerie Wilson, not Valerie Plame. Also, the called someone in the middle on the night to get this memo - somehow I don't think the memo was critical to State Department functions. Someone at the White House wanted it, and got them to give it to Powell, who was going to be on the plane.

If Powell were guilty, he would have a lawyer. He doesn't.

Are they trying to deflect the heat from Rove to someone else - yes. Is the public buying it - maybe. Is Powell actually guilty - I don't think so, and I don't think Fitz is buying it either. If it were Powell, it would be the guys at State who leaked to the press, not guys at the White House.

I think it's Rove, Bush and Cheney Fitz is after.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:51 PM
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3. I didn't mean to imply Powell as guilty
but if they are setting him up to be the fall guy, with or without his knowledge. Yes I do agree they are trying to deflect the heat from Rove, with all these anynomous leaks from the Grand Jury

Amazing that the leaks are happening now, when this has been going on for a couple of years

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:11 PM
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9. Make no mistake. Powell is guilty.
Karma?
:shrug:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:12 PM
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10. good point
not speaking up or resigning when you knew they were doing the wrong this is a manner of guilt
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:30 PM
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13. Also, his career is frought with guiltabilities.
Karma.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:50 PM
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2. Bush was on the plane with Powell, and so was Condi. I don't
think the repukes want to call ANY attention to THAT plane flight! However, they are not displaying any intellegence in their handling of the matter so far!
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:53 PM
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4. Well he did not leak
the info to the press hey.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 10:56 PM
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5. I don't think he leaked it either
but it is curious that the "anynomous" source brings his name into the picture

Who is this "anynomous" source?

Rove?
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:03 PM
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7. Just pure spin
muddy all the water but all this got no legs. Just pure desparation,
last throes hey.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:01 PM
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6. Like he was the only one on that plane seen with the memo.
It's as lame as every piece of spin they continue to put out there. I just hope Powell gets disgusted enough to finally speak out. It would be in the best interest of the nation & the people for him to do so.
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G2099 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:04 PM
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8. Yes
Indeed, a perfect set up
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:21 PM
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11. I'm thinking the anonymous source in this case (and a lot of
what we've been seeing in the past few days) is Rove's lawyer, Luskin. Seemed like a lot of people weren't buying what he was selling when they knew he was being paid by Rove, so maybe he's going the anonymous route - since it's worked so well for the White House. :sarcasm:
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:28 PM
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12. Just when I'd managed to forget about Colon Bowel....
he surfaces again. For a while, I thought he'd never leave to fade from the public's memory (recall last December).

Thank God, he finally gave up the ghost. I was hoping he'd settle down and start writing his "memoiors", all done in first-person singular. "I saved..." "I rescued....", "Because of me, the US...bla bla bla.

I was hoping that would keep him real busy. But no....now he's got a role to play, once again. This time, it's the Knight in Shining Armor, the Loyal Soldier who will fall on his sword to protect Bush.

Don't count on anyone buying this little ruse.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-16-05 11:33 PM
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14. God, history really does repeat itself. de ja vu all over again. Hope
the ending is the same. Bush gone and Powell with his own radio show.
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