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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:48 AM
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So how is that Anthrax investigation going?
Ummm yeah...
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:49 AM
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1. What anthrax investigation?
:sarcasm: :shrug:
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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:51 AM
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3. Whatever happened to OBL?
Dumbya probably doesnt even remember who he is.



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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:51 AM
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2. about as well as the search for mullah omar or that other guy, um...
what was his name....
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:56 AM
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6. Waldo?
Or the guy with the beard?
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:03 AM
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10. It was the dude whose family members were allowed to leave the US on 9*12
or 9*13 - when other flights were suspended - special clearance to leave the US after their countrymen attacked us. Good friends of the bush family, I think.

landon, luden....someting like that

(it was family members wasn't it?)

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:12 AM
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13. the Italians investigated
They found Gladio alive and well, with CIA "control links."
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:55 AM
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4. I was a New Yorker opening her mail in rubber gloves
After a woman died uptown. After problems at major news networks.

No resolution, no explanation. Ordinary New Yorkers, people like me, thrown into fits of paranoia and glove-wearing thanks to these sick propagandists.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:55 AM
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5. You know, it's a little slow going
After they realized that all of the targets were critics of BushCo, the investigators were a little afraid of actually solving it.

Interesting, isn't it, that they were never repeated? One would assume that a serial killer or publicity hound or any other "profiled" style assailant would have done it again, since he wasn't caught the first time.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:59 AM
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8. Hmm, joby, sounds like a conspiracy to me. What do you think?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:02 AM
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9. There are conspiracies
Just not every time something happens.

This is more of one of those things that makes you go "Hmmm."
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:58 AM
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7. That's a laugh. It was military grade traced to the US. You really think
they're going to "investigate" that?

Ha ha ha ...

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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:07 AM
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11. Don't forget the..
ric in sent to Frist's office.
He dared to attempt compromise with Democrats,
then .....
suddenly began towing the hard party line.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:14 AM
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14. sounds like some heavy-handed hardball there
That kind of stuff doesn't usually last this long. I wonder how they pulled it off.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:12 AM
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12. Last I heard, the Anthrax was determined to be a U.S. army strain...
...And here's Bob with the Weather!
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:17 AM
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37. Yes it was. It was also a strain that was in the hands of Dyncorp, a Huge
US contractor.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:34 AM
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15. The anthrax attacks were unleashed
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 01:36 AM by LibDemAlways
shortly after 9/11 and aimed squarely at Democrats (Daschle, Leahy) and the corporate "news" media - plus one tabloid that had printed unflattering photos of the chimp's offspring.The attacks certainly ratcheted up the fear as postal workers and ordinary citizens died.

I think the purpose of the anthrax attacks was twofold and became evident after it was determined the anthrax was from a domestic source. (1) Serve notice to Dems in Congress and to the media that the BFEE plays hardball so it's best to go along with the program; and (2) keep ordinary Americans afraid and not willing to question the BFEE's tactics as they launched their "war" on terror. I think they succeeded on both counts.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:43 AM
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17. So when are they going to break out the stuff again?
Their iron grasp is starting to slip now.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:42 AM
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16. Wonderfully!
The public was scared, liberal democrats who were the target were intimidated, a bystander has had his career ruined, and the real perpetrators were never fingered.

Another successful covert operation.
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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 03:40 AM
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19. Dboon
"a bystander has had his career ruined"...any word on his present circumstances? I do recall his press statements & found him very believable as to the fallout he suffered.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:34 AM
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22. Steve Hatfill?
You know as much as I do.

His career has definitely ended.

No charges were ever filed.

He does, however have an "interesting" background.
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klyon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 07:08 AM
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21. don't forget the Senate office building that was under lock-down
What files and desks were searched? What dirt was uncovered?
Does anyone believe privacy was respected?

KL

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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:58 AM
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18. a month before the first reported outbreak-
Why did the White House go on Cipro Beginning September 11th?
Were they psychic, or did they know?


Nearly a month before the first reported outbreak, White House officials start taking the powerful antibiotic Cipro to treat anthrax. By the end of the year it will be known that the Ames strain of anthrax used in the attacks against Sens. Leahy and Daschle was produced by CIA programs coordinated through Fort Detrick, the Batelle Memorial Institute and the Dugway Proving Ground.

FBI & BUSH ADMINISTRATION SUED OVER ANTHRAX DOCUMENTS

Judicial Watch Wants to Know Why White House Went on Cipro Beginning September 11th

What Was Known and When?
(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption and abuse, said today that it has filed lawsuits against the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), the Department of Health and Human Services (“HHS”), the Center for Disease Control (“CDC”), the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (“USAMRIID”) and the U.S. Postal Service (USPS) for those agencies’ failures to produce documents concerning the terrorist anthrax attacks of October 2001, under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (“FOIA”).

http://www.judicialwatch.org/1967.shtml

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Complete 911 Timeline: Anthrax attacks and microbiologists
Project: Complete 911 Timeline
Open-Content project managed by Paul Thompson

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&theme=anthrax

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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:53 AM
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38. Are they still taking Cipro or was that a one time thing?
Suspicious is stating it lightly.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 06:50 AM
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20. Wasn't the anthrax scare
About the time the Patriot Act was about to be voted on? After the anthrax, the bill sailed through with little review.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:02 AM
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23. I thought so.
Another successful venture by Bush Co.
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halsaxby Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:30 AM
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24. Anthrax...
Since there are only a few sources of anthrax in this country and they are all controlled by the gov't, I would think they would have this wrapped up by now. Of course, if "Al Qaeda" mail terrorists turned out to be BushCo/Aramco/Haliburton stooges people might start looking at 9/11 a little harder.
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:33 AM
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25. You would think so...
Especially since they know the Army base that the strain came from. And the fact that there are only 4 people who know how to make this type of weaponized Anthrax.

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OKDem08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 04:33 PM
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26. Lateo, wow! I didn't know that
One would think if that were the case, a conviction would have resulted. How convenient.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 05:27 PM
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27. I know you asked the question ironically but let's pose it again
Seriously. And I do mean seriously. Why has this been totally dropped by everyone - the White House, the media, everyone? What is the ongoing investigation? Was Valerie Plame by any chance involved in that investigation? Why would the anthrax terrorist(s) stop with just the single flurry of attacks? Why were Democrats and the media the primary focus of those attacks?

Isn't this just a huge, gigantic incident that we have all dropped in the confusion of war? I always saw the Stephen Hatfill character as being the convenient fall-guy a la Richard Jewel. They certainly ruined his life as a person of interest without ever indicting him. Who is protecting us from future anthrax attacks? I want a response and an update NOW!
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 06:03 PM
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30. Very curious...
It is interesting that the story has all but been dropped.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 05:55 PM
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28. I'm kicking because I really want to know.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 06:00 PM
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29. Here's the latest:
http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/#events

"According to Debra Weierman, an FBI field office spokesperson in Washington, in October of 2004, there were 31 Special Agents of the FBI, 13 Postal Inspectors, 1 U.S. Attorney and a scattering of support personnel working full time on the anthrax investigation (and that does not include lab technicians).

"This is the type of case the likes of which we've never had," Weierman said when asked why, three years later, the case remains unsolved. "Make no mistake, it is being intensely investigated.""

Can't vouch for whoever is running this anthraxinvestigation.com, but the site does seem to have the most recent info on it.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 06:03 PM
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31. Thank you!! I think we should all be concerned about this. n/t
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 07:34 PM
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32. I have a hard time believing that this case is being...
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 07:35 PM by lateo
"intensely investigated"

Watergate took less than 2 years....
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 07:43 PM
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33. And of course there is this...
Larry Klayman, chairman of Judicial Watch, said administration officials said last fall that some White House staff members had begun taking the antibiotic Cipro on Sept. 11, weeks before the anthrax attacks were made public.

"We believe that the White House knew or had reason to know that an anthrax attack was imminent or underway," Klayman said. "We want to know what the government knew and when they knew it."

SOURCE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A15269-2002Jun7¬Found=true
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 08:04 PM
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34. Ok, it's now 3 years later after they have filed their FIA request
And . . . ? What good is it to have laws on the books if they won't comply? I guess they didn't find it necessary to pass the word to Brokaw or Dashle or anyone else. Wouldn't want to alarm us.

On a similar but unrelated topic, why is the US not stockpiling the same kind of bird-flu drugs everyone in the rest of the world is?

I see it as another failure to protect the public at large.
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ChiDem Donating Member (238 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 08:10 PM
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35. 30,000 die every year from the flu
And every year we are short vaccine.

The only thing we are stockpiling these days is hypocrisy
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-18-05 08:13 AM
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36. Yep.
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