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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:19 AM
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MILLER's Big-House Address, for Us "Dork-infested" Pen Pals
It's not only NOVAKula out there enjoying life outside prison walls, here's a glimpse of the MILLER hubby out on the town, being "quite in awe" of her. The 2nd item is just fun for watching a gossip catfight and us on the net being called dorks, as in "dork infested".

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http://www.nypost.com/gossip/liz.htm

IF YOU want to write to the imprisoned reporter Judy Miller of New York Times fame, you can do so by using this name and number: No. 45570083 at the Alexandria Detention Center, 2001 Mill Road, Alexandria, Va. 22314.

I ran into Judy's husband, the famous editor Jason Epstein, in Michael's literary restaurant this past week. He had this to say of Judy's plight in going to jail over a story she never even wrote: "Her spirits are OK. She is, after all, a reporter in the midst of a great, ongoing story and has been given the rare opportunity to take a principled, if painful, stand on an issue of fundamental importance. I am quite in awe of her."

Judy must be pondering the odd things going on outside her jail walls. While she does time, Robert Novak, who actually revealed the name of the CIA agent in question in print — and Karl Rove, the president's right-hand man, who also identified the woman to Time's Matt Cooper — are both flourishing. The likelihood of either of these men going to jail on a principle, or for a crime, is slim indeed. My bet is neither one will even suffer unduly for what they did since both of them are still stonewalling like crazy. Judy Miller will serve their time.



http://www.nypost.com/gossip/pagesix_u.htm

GAWK AT THIS

THIS is the face of snarkiness incarnate. Unknown outside the dork-infested waters of the Blogosphere, her name is Jessica Coen, and she's the co-editor of Gawker.com, where she regurgitates newspaper and magazine stories and slathers them in supposedly witty sarcasm. Every time we bump into Coen, 25, who likes to accessorize with a stuffed dog poking out of her handbag, she smiles and showers us with sycophantic praise. But her every mention of PAGE SIX on her Web site is snide and snarky. Word to Coen: Next time you see us at a party, keep walking. Or slithering. You can't be a boot-licker and a back-stabber at the same time.

http://www.gawker.com/



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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:29 AM
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1. I Think This Is Called A Circular Firing Squad
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 09:30 AM by KharmaTrain
...ready to take positions since they have are so compromised.

The corporate media knows Miller is withholding key information that can move an investigation forward as opposed to protecting a source whose information does lead to the uncovering of crimes (Mark Felt). Miller's source wasn't Cooper who wasn't Novak who wasn't Rove. Fact remains, all we have here are "subjects", not THE source...the person who first introduced Plame's name into the game and why they did it. Instead this is the corporate media doing what they LOVE to do...stories about themselves.

Of course Miller's playing Joan Of Arc while she's actually Mata Hari. And that's because of the information she's withholding. It obviously was of such importance that not only a Federal Prosecutor, but several judges agreed it rose above her privilidges of being a "journalist"...and that was backed up by the Supreme Court.

Let 'em keep writing and spinning. This will all come back to make them look so foolish later.

Cheers...
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vickitulsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:20 AM
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5. Back in the day this was also called a
cluster-fuck, I think. Or a circle-jerk. Or something like that.

There is always at least one member in a conspiracy, as I recall, who is unwilling to fall on a sword or even a letter-opener, nay, even to suffer a paper-cut! in order to protect the same higher-ups who have been abusing him or her for some time. The exec sec who types those infamous MEMOS into a computer and knows secrets she would love to share with the world or a grand jury as payback for all the "GET ME AND MY MUCKY MUCK PALS COFFEE AND NOW!" orders she's had to listen to from her conservative boss. The gofer who was not long ago an intern and is now an assistant-something-or-other to the right-hand-man of the right-hand-man of the Man (or Boy King if you prefer); surely such a guy knows a lot and resents having been treated like a nearly invisible machine good only for running important errands the boss neglected to take care of or fending off angry callers his boss should have to listen to.

IOW, surely there will be some who will be willing to spill all the beans SP Fitz could possibly want to count -- and from there, go step by step to the core infection and work back outwards again. Maybe? SURELY, as others have said, this whole Karlrovian plot wasn't put into motion without the sanction of the beast's head. Everyone who has reason to know insists that W leaves no doubt who is in charge in this White House. No way was such a significant plan as this enacted without his approval -- and from what I've heard, his personal tweaking!

I know one thing. I've served time in a state prison, and before reaching that destination all incarcerated persons do at least a little time in a city or county jail. And if Ms. Miller is as much a hoity-toity as I've heard, accustomed to being well treated and respected, to getting her own way, that lady is NOT liking life in her "gray-bar hotel" -- the Alexandria jail -- one teeniest bit. Martha could take it far better, I have always thought, and emerge enlightened and wanting to change "The System" to better serve the public good and reform/rehabilitate the inmates warehoused needlessly at such a high cost to taxpayers.

But Ms. Miller? Nah ... I can't see her adjusting quickly and then having an eye-opening experience in jail. She'll be hating every single degrading moment of it. By now, nearly two weeks into her stay, she'll be wanting to climb the walls. But that's just it: there's a Wall she can't get over! Her jailers are treating her like crap, knowing exactly who she is. They'll laugh at her humiliation to be told to "grab her ankles and spread her cheeks" for a full cavity search if they can think of an excuse to go that far, or at least for the discomfort she'll feel at being told to strip down to her birthday suit in order to be issued crappy, ugly and ill-fitting utilitarian garments and flipflops to wear during her stay.

And the other inmates? OMG, they're having a blast, with juicy entertainment they'd never hoped to have on what is for them probably a repeat visit to the local jail for something like prostitution, welfare fraud, hot check writing or various drug charges. Or stabbing their abusive husbands. Or killing another female gang member in a street fight.

These people will NOT like Ms. Miller and will view her ilk as beneath contempt and extremely weak. If you are thought to be Weak when you enter a jail or prison system, you are a target and may have a short lifespan -- or at the very least a very painful one. Not all jails are deadly dangerous, but many are; it depends on who else is incarcerated with you and on how closely the guards monitor inmates' behavior. If Miller offends the wrong person before she learns she'd better wise up and LEARN THE ROPES, she could be surprised with anything from a blanket party in the middle of the night (ouch!) to a violent sexual assault with something like a mop handle. Hey, it happens, I'm not kidding ya. When women decide to be vicious and violent, they can vent a lot of pent-up rage on whatever target presents itself.

So in the end, it isn't the guards Miller probably needs to be most concerned about but her fellow inmates. INMATE: now she has a new title she can wear for a time, too, huh? ;) I'm so wicked, I know. :evilgrin: I can't help it, I just know how miserable that lady must be "on the Inside" in a wholly different way than she ever would have imagined to be her fate. And if she's not careful, she could be acquiring other titles soon. Ones like "convict" and "felon." You tend to wear those for life, no matter who you are.

AND if she gets the news while she's there, sees how her hubby is holding court "being proud of her" in a five-star hotel restaurant or whatever while she is Inside suffering the torments of the damned and wondering if she will *ever* in fact be released, rescued, relieved of this burden she has elected to assume, she might well crack wide open with sheer outrage. Most inmates DO get plenty of news from the Outside, from the Free World, from the Street. Only those in "admin seg" -- you may know it as "protective custody" or even "the hole," which it's still called Inside -- are cut off from news of the Outside. Being in isolated invidual lockdown 24/7 is hell in itself and for most inmates taking the risks of being in the general population is far preferable, which should tell ya something. When a prisoner is in the hole, s/he has far fewer rights than in general pop, and guards or C.O.'s can take away everything -- clothing, reading material, light, proximity to other inmates s/he could talk to through the walls, even personal mail! Meals the guards select are passed in through small slots in the door, and showers need not be offered at all for weeks on end.

At night when all prisoners are locked down, hygiene facilities are minimal and not private if you have a cellmate or an open-barred enclosure. The sink and toilet bowl are made together in one stainless steel unit bolted to the wall. The sink is right on top of the toilet bowl. (Think about how pleasant that must be.)

But back to the news. You'd be amazed at the veritable fountain of information a prison rumor mill can acquire and grind to grist. Newspapers find their way to the Inside quite readily, and there's bound to be the ubiquitous TV set, maybe black and white, probably welded into a solid frame hanging from brackets high on a wall in a dayroom which everyone in the building shares. Miller might have to risk getting spanked by a musclebound veteran inmate if she tries to change the channel to hear the news, but at some point those new to life on the Inside can get quite desperate to hear what's going ON "out there." Out There where they lived and flourished so recently ... Out There where none of the degradations they're suffering behind the Walls were known to them ... Out There where they had it all -- and maybe threw it all away?.......

Just does amazing things to me to ponder all this. Thought I'd share some of it with you guys. Hope you don't mind. It sure did my little heart good! :rofl:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:36 AM
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6. Great Post And Insight...Welcome To DU
A great rant! And I'd suggest you put this in a thread of it's own.

My late father used to call this "mental masturbation".

The one thing I'm feeling very good about is how many others are seeing through the smokescreen of this crap. It's only the corporate media who attempts to play this pity party...and the distrust they've created on right and left have come home to roost.

I'm sure hoping this kicks into the level where some of these "journalists" have to join Ms. Miller in testifying about what they wrote and have their agendas exposed as well.

Cheers and a hearty welcome to DU!

:hi:
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:31 AM
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2. Thanks! Jessica Coen is gorgeous, isn't she?
I have no idea who pagesix is, and I won't register for the New York Post (how degrading!), but I appreciate your posting the link to gawker.com and Ms Miller's address in prison. I'll try to think of some appropriately comforting words to send to the poor dear. I'll bet she's writing a book right this minute that will be ordered by the CASE by right-wing imbeciles. Dear Lord, is there no end to the waste of protoplasm?

:scared:
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:37 AM
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3. Now That You Mention It, It's a Sad Life to Have Registered w/ the NY Post
Hey! from one VN-er to another.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:41 AM
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4. Back atcha, bro!
:hug: :patriot:
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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:38 AM
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7. Dear Judy,
Thank you very much.

Sincerely,
Zorbuddha
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Zorbuddha Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:44 AM
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8. The face of snark incarnate responds:
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 11:49 AM by Zorbuddha
Hello!

As "the face of snark incarnate," I have a sense of moral obligation to address the issue of how and why what sorts of snarky items work. Specifically, I'd love to offer some pointers to P6 and the gang, who really wasted some primo space by failing to articulate their item on me. As such, a quick lesson, for the good of humanity, in Snark:

• Thesaurus.com is my top bookmark, and I suggest you make it the same on your browser. Then you needn't use words like "snarky" over and over again. Say I'm contemptous, irritable, cranky, cocky, insolent, sneering. Call me a dimwitted bitch, for all I care. Just don't use "snark" twice in the same item.

• If you're going to mention that I'm unknown outside of the "blogosphere" and also insult said circle, you might want to explain why you know who I am and are bothering to write about me. Be self-effacing and self-deprecating. For example, I'd edit as such: "Unknown outside the dork-infested waters of the Blogosphere <(which we, in only our loneliest hours, are admittedly familiar with)>, her name is Jessica Coen..." See? That works, acknowledges why I'm taking up your column and still manages to poke my ego.

• Your main target should be the work, not the person. I am human typo machine; I'm functionally illiterate; I do very little original reporting. These are things to attack, as our shared readers will relate to these issues. Personal issues will just fly above the audience's head, so steer clear of it unless you're willing to divulge every relevant detail. Otherwise, you're spitting nonsensical venom.

snip

blahblahsighblah

This is going to be one of those pointlessly annoying posts (as if there were any other kind?) in which I ruminate and wax philosophical on stuff of no interest to anyone other than my internal buddy, Monologue Jones, who's tired of hearing this crap in our head over and over again.

snip

Oh my God, did you actually read all of that? Sucka.

http://www.jessicacoen.com/

(Man oh man, snarky fer sure.)
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