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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:53 AM
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"Rove at War" -Fineman/Newsweek
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8600327/site/newsweek/

By Howard Fineman
Newsweek
Updated: 11:45 a.m. ET July 17, 2005
July 25 issue

He rose using tactics his foes are turning against him....

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But then Wilson went public. Some prominent administration officials scurried for cover. Traveling in Africa, Secretary of State Colin Powell, who had long harbored doubts, disowned the "sixteen words" about Niger that had ended up in Bush's prewar State of the Union speech. So did CIA Director George Tenet, who said they shouldn't have been in the text. But Cheney—who tended never to give an inch on any topic—held firm. And so, therefore, did Rove, who sometimes referred to the vice president as "Leadership." Rove took foreign-policy cues from the pro-war coterie that surrounded the vice president, and was personally and operationally close to Cheney's chief of staff, Lewis (Scooter) Libby.

Soon enough, Rove had drawn a bead on Wilson. The diplomat was a Democrat who had worked on national-security issues in the Clinton administration; he had donated money to Al Gore in 2000. Now, Rove had heard, he was friendly with Sen. John Kerry. Wilson was trying to drag Cheney into the story for partisan reasons—to caricature him as the dark, secret taskmaster of the war. Cheney hadn't dispatched Wilson; the vice president hadn't had anything directly to do with it.

In the World According to Karl Rove, you take the offensive, and stay there. You create a narrative that glosses over complex, mitigating facts to divide the world into friends and enemies, light and darkness, good and bad, Bush versus Saddam. You are loyal to a fault to your friends, merciless to your enemies. You keep your candidate's public rhetoric sunny and uplifting, finding others to do the attacking. You study the details, and learn more about your foes than they know about themselves. You use the jujitsu of media flow to flip the energy of your enemies against them. The Boss never discusses political mechanics in public. But in fact everything is political—and everyone is fair game.........

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8600327/site/newsweek/
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:03 PM
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1. The truth will win out, it always does, Wilson must remain strong
in his beliefs and support of his wife. Rove is the enemy to this country, our latest Benedic Arnold.

:kick:
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:03 PM
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2. FineWhore used to have a major story on aWol published at least once a
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 12:07 PM by dArKeR
week for years (5), often two per week. Then FineWhore predicted aWol would lose in 2004, which we're just finding out he probably legally did because of CoinGate...

Also, FineWhore started to be a guest on the Air America, the Franken show about early 2004. Made about 6-8 shows.

This has been in the back of my mind for a long time but I never posted; "Where's Whorie?"

As can be proven by fact of articles, there were very few journalist as pro aWol as Whorie! I'm sure the DUers know and remember this.


PS. As you can see, the pic MSNBC publishes in Whorie's BIO looks about 20 years ago.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:21 PM
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6. He was on Tweety's show today and was the only talking head who
said that there will be indictments.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:04 PM
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3. How many titles does kkkarl have now, but called "adviser"
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:19 PM
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5. I don't know, but there's more than I ever wanted to know about him here
His early family life was genuinely unfortunate (dad left, mom comitted suicide), but this recounting of when he met junior is just bizarre:

...On Thanksgiving in 1973, Bush {H.W.}, through an aide, asked Rove to take the family car keys to Union Station and give them to his son, who was arriving from his first semester at Harvard Business School. Rove recalls the scene in a kind of gauzy cinematic slow-mo: "He was wearing jeans, and a bomber jacket, and he had an aura of confidence and charisma," Rove once told NEWSWEEK.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:29 PM
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9. Right. Who he thought was his father, wasn't. I'm sure a psychiatrist
could have a field day analyzing his life, family, etc. and how he developed into the psychopath he is today.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 12:11 PM
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4. "he had donated money to Al Gore in 2000."
According to Newsmeat, Wilson also donated money to the chimp in 2000.

WILSON, JOSEPH C IV
WASHINGTON, DC 20007
JCWILSON INTERNATIONAL VENTURE BUSH, GEORGE W (R)
President
BUSH FOR PRESIDENT INC. $1,000
primary 05/20/99
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:07 PM
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7. That Is A Very Good Article
I recommend that folks read it in its entirety. It's well worth the time.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 01:09 PM
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8. The top secret notebook is very telling
Excellent read.
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