Rending the myths about liberals

[Mythsaje]

1. They're for abortion.

No. Personally I'm against abortion. But what I'm for is giving ALL humans capable of making decisions the RIGHT to make decisions about their own bodies. It's between them, their healthcare provider, and their God. It has nothing to do with the rest of us.

2. They're for gun control.

If, by this, you mean, they're for people controlling their guns, yeah. I believe in safe, responsible gun ownership. AND the ability to hit one's target.

3. They're for rampant taxation.

Personally I prefer Intelligent Taxation. I want to see our money spent wisely, with all due consideration. I want to see schools built to code, with all the newest technology, but without the huge marble edifices (contractor boondoggle) that some people seem to think are necessary. A school needs to do what it's built to do--it doesn't have to look particularly pretty.

When I pass a road crew working, I want to see five people working and (at the most) ONE person watching...not the other way around.

Don't YOU?

4. They're for unlimited social programs.

I want to see social programs that MAKE SENSE. I want to see a safety net capable of catching someone who needs help, getting them back on their feet, and making them MORE productive members of society than they would have been without that assistance. I want to see welfare recipients go out and get a job that pays more into the system than it takes out.

I want to streamline programs, eliminate bureaucratic waste, and make them more easily reformed when necessary to deal with new developments and new technologies.

5. They're pacifists and appeasers.

Come say that to my face. :D Seriously--I believe in restricting conflict to when it's absolutely necessary. War against an overt aggressor is one thing...war against a 'notion' or 'idea' is something else. Terrorists are criminals, not soldiers. One hunts them down, arrests them, indicts them, and puts them on trial. One does not attack a country allegedly hoping that all the terrorists flock there and die in glorious battle.

6. They're anti-business.

I'm anti-corruption. When the needs of businesses outweigh the needs of the people who SUPPORT those businesses--as employees or customers--I've got an issue with it. When legislation comes along that inflates profit at the expense of the taxpayers who keep businesses running, I'm against it.

7. They don't have any constructive ideas.

We have plenty of ideas. Ours just aren't delivered in bombastic fashion by a complicit media that prefers sensationalism to substance.

edited to fix a typo

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Kicked and nominated

very well put!

[Don_1967]

2. AGREED

I agree with you 100%

[Snotcicles]

3. Great expression of democratic ideas. Hey Howie Lookie here n/t

[Don_1967]

4. Road crews

I thought road crews in Ky were the only ones where one or two do the work and about ten supervise.

[Mythsaje]

6. King County

here in Washington State is INFAMOUS for this sort of thing...it can take three to four times as long for a project in King County than any of the surrounding counties. And it's well known.

Welcome to DU, btw...

[DBoon]

7. heard a joke from Hawaii

Q. What's green and yellow and sleeps 7?

A. Honolulu Municipal road repair trucks.

or something like that.

[Mythsaje]

8. That's good.

Definitely something a lot of people can relate to then, isn't it?

[Fly by night]

13. Here's the New Mexico version.

Back when I lived in the Land of Enchantment, the Albuquerque freeways were constantly under repair. One day, I heard two radio personalities joking around about it:

"Well, Pat, I've just read that scientists expect the sun to burn out in about 6 billion years. What do you think about that?"

"That's a shame, Mike. I guess the New Mexico Highway Department will just have to finish repairing the Albuquerque freeways in the dark."

[eleny]

5. Good stuff

I like how you put this together. Some plain speaking that I can remember. And most of all - it's honest, it's true.

[oddmanout]

9. Excellent post!

Very well put! You've quantified my thoughts exactly!



:dem: :yourock: :dem:

[Conservativesux]

10. #2: We need workable gun cintrol laws that keep guns out of the hands.....

...of criminals,the insane and others who don't need easy access(read "buying at a gun store/show legally") to firearms.

Living here in California, we had a psychotic person on medications for schizophrenia, who had the "right" to own guns, kill three people up in Nevada county (60 miles NE of Sacramento)a couple of years ago, because he was an out-patient, and only people who are forced by law into mental wards lose thier right to purchase and own firearms.

To make matters worse he had a brother in law-enforcement that knew of his condition and that he owned several guns, yet he couldn't or didn't do anything to remove these from the hands of this madman.

We still dont have a gun law that protects CA citizens from persons like this doing the same thing all over again!

So, I disagree with #2.

We DO need sane gun control laws that allow law-abiding, non-violent, non-mentally ill people to own firearms, while making the purchase or ownership of a gun by violence prone people like this man to be a felony offence.

[Mythsaje]

11. And that will stop loons like this

from buying from the black market?

Nope. If he did that, no one would even know he HAD the guns in the first place.

Safe, sane, responsible gun ownership needs to be lauded and protected. Unsafe, insane, and irresponsible gun ownership needs to be curtailed.

When a case like this comes up, there needs to be a law on the books that makes it possible to go in and confiscate these weapons because they endanger public safety.
That was, in my opinion, his brother-in-law's responsibility.

This doesn't negate my #2 point...it merely illustrates it.

[Zorra]

12. Business is fine, but it must be regulated and prevented from having

influence in government. Otherwise, it will inevitably grow to the point where it will take control of government.

Like it already has done in our formerly democratic America.

FDR said it very well, and his words have become prophecy:

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That, in its essence, is Fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or any controlling private power." Franklin Delano Roosevelt

[Catch22Dem]

14. Kicked and nominated.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[CantGetFooledAgain]

15. "I'm anti-corruption"

Amen to that. In business and in government, corruption in all of its many forms is ruining the country and the world. And what's behind corruption? Greed, selfishness, a lack of empathy for others.

The Iraq war was the result of the intersection of extreme political and corporate corruption. And not only have they gotten away with it so far, but the majority of Americans don't yet (and may never) realize what is happening.

Good post, thank you.

[Festivito]

16. ..what more, we are now more conservative with tax $$ than CONservatives.

We balanced the budget and did fight terrorism and did pay some debt that did pave the way for Social Security being 100% funded -- sucessfully.

They are loud and run well, we are not as noisy and we govern well, we govern BETTER.