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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 05:20 PM
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Pat Lang: Niger Mischief

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Among the various items brought to mind by present history is the question of the Niger Document. This was the paper which turned up in the hands of Italian intelligence which purports to establish Saddam's drive to buy semi-refined Uranium ore in Niger. This document seems to be well established as a forgery planted on the Italians. Was the US government involved? I know of nothing at this point that would demonstrate that.

The newsmedia have worked on this story for years now and several have well documented the result. A major TV news magazine hired me last year to help them look for those who knew the truth in this matter. They succeeded. A national wire service did the same thing without my help and has the result. The same is true of two other national news publications.

It is very clear now that this document was forged by a couple of the shadowy ex-government characters who dwell in the environs of Washington and was planted in Italy on the basis of the personal contacts of one of them with the intention of influencing the debate over Iraq in this country. How do I know that? Well, I just do in the way that intelligence officers learn things. Good sources, multiple sources, first person accounts, probabilities, that is how one learns things. Could I swear to it in court? No. Intelligence conclusions are not things that can be sworn to in court.

From Niger Mischief by Pat Lang

Posted at No Quarter:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/07/niger_mischief.html

July 17, 2005

Additional references on "Niger Mischief":
http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2005/7/17/133522/208
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/17/135257/633


These materials will be referenced in American History 101: G. W. Bush, First Traitor President, but I thought it useful for everyone to have this reference available today as its own OP to ensure it is widely seen.




Peace.

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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 05:24 PM
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1. Wow! Nice find!
I've always liked Pat Lang. Invariably knowledgeable and pragmatic.
I believe him.
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 05:39 PM
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2. Hmmm...Ledeen. How interesting!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 05:57 PM
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3. One of the questions I have...
What third grader forged the Niger Documents? I mean after all, the mistakes were akin to signing a school absense excuse "My Mom".

-hoot
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:02 PM
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7. Indeed, the nature of the document is grossly amateur, but ...
... when you can steal elections, control the media, and have had a framework for aggressive war and world domination (PNAC), you tend to get sloppy. At least that's what's happened to every other imperialistic endeavor; the arrogance and the slovenliness metastasize and kill the enterprise.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:41 PM
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8. We can always hope ;) n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 06:01 PM
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4. Wow the whole Iraq War just crumbles down!!!
Unfreakingbelievable!!!
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 07:03 PM
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5. A little less cryptic is Pat Lang's long, beautiful and exhaustive essay,
"Drinking the Koolaid." Which REALLY crumbles the Iraq war, from the beginning.

http://www.mepc.org/public_asp/journal_vol11/0406_lang.asp

Highly recommended.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 08:56 PM
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6. Time: How the Tale Unfolds - Bjerklie's version of the chronology
How The Tale Unfolds
A chronological look at the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame

By DAVID BJERKLIE


July 17, 2005

2001
The Italian government's intelligence agency obtains documents that appear to show that Iraqi officials attempted to buy yellowcake, a substance that can be enriched to produce weapons-grade uranium, from the African nation Niger. The evidence is shared with British and U.S. intelligence.


2002
February: The CIA, in response to concerns raised by Vice President Cheney's office, looks into British reports that Iraq tried to buy uranium from Africa. CIA officials dispatch ex-diplomat Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate.

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More at the link:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1083895,00.html


A bit too terse; a bit too naive.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

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