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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:24 PM
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How about the next time we wage a war, we do it because we have to.
Not one we are lied into because it fits conveniently into some shadow group like the pnac's plans. Just a thought.

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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:26 PM
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1. No why can't...
the MSM realize that?
I know...I know...

Well said.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:36 PM
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2. Hey!
Now that is a good idea.

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:48 PM
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3. You mean, for real? Or is it enough if the president pretends we have to?
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:49 PM
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4. how about we wage it on an enemy, not
a noun (war on terror)
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:50 PM
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5. A great thought to build on
Edited on Sun Jul-17-05 10:02 PM by bonito
Let's all work together toward ending every reason for war. Lets feed the hungry, help the sick, lets find that life is good. and honor and thanks for all our brothers and sisters, sons and daughters, that have sacrificed there lives here, and humbly stand on there shoulders, that one day we would find peace for Humanity. when that time comes we will all know god. It's within our reach. peace and Mothers and fathers there children we should nourish in love for there sacrifice.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:50 PM
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6. There's a thought
I'm with you.

Novel idea.

Makes a lot of sense.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 09:53 PM
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7. My thought is how are we going to make sure this never
happens again?
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:05 PM
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8. It starts with you.
Peace.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:11 PM
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9. RICO vs. AEI and the GOP and some more
Lots of legislation to get fair elections, enforce separation of powers, curtail presidential power, and a lot more is needed.

RICO suits vs. AEI and the GOP would make a lot of sense at this point.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:16 PM
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10. Where did I here this motto before
First in peace last in war? I remember my dad telling me this a long time ago but I forgot where it belongs too.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:37 PM
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11. sounds familiar to me too
I don't know where it was said. tomorrow I'm going to see about having the peace sign put on my forehead. my wife says I will have to live with this. But I feel I could live with this easer than having my children kill another human beaning, or loosing them. And as a reminder to my self if I should fall asleep in this world again what really is important.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:53 PM
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15. i think it went
first in war,
first in peace,
first in the heart of his country men
That is the story of Washington
That is the glory of Washington.....

like, the sound track from a disney classic????

i have a wierd brain... i could be way off-

but i agree- Peace is the only answer- not 'doing nothing' but not destroying people who don't agree with us, or we don't like, or that we fear= killing them won't change things in the long run- Any more than one partner in a relationship can 'fix' the other- it is in negotiation, understanding, and listening and being honest with ourselves, and the world, that hope lives.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:09 PM
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18. Bluerthanblue
I've been looking for a shade of blue, hovering close too cobalt, but it is not just that. bluer than blue thats it! Its beyond words!I don't mean to offend you, but I got a weird brain too. Anyway good to know you. thanks for your post!. peace.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 11:14 PM
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19. no offense
taken at all- and good to know you too-

"weird brains think alike- weird brains think for themselves"
peace to you too.
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:39 PM
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12. You must be an America hating traitor...
Where's the profit in a war we have to fight?:sarcasm: :hi:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:46 PM
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13. "There has never been a good war or a bad peace"
War, killing to end killing just doesn't work- if it did, would war not be extinct???
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:50 PM
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14. "Everybody's crying peace on earth, just as soon as we win this war"
Mose Allison.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:55 PM
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16. war doesn't have any winners
it doesn't answer the question of who is 'right'-
it only has a chance of teaching those who are 'left' how ineffective killing to control is-

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-17-05 10:58 PM
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17. Which may be the case BECAUSE of the previous, lie-based war we got into.
Just a thought.
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