I have some inside information on a certain Republican Congressperson...

[Dawgs]

This information is private and would violate their civil rights if I let it be known.

I would never disclose what I know, but this person is just as much responsible for Bush, and what he's done to the country, as anyone.

I know it will drive some of you crazy that I do not tell, but I am no Karl Rove. It just drives me crazy that I can not tell anyone.

What should I do? If the information came out on it's own, it would really hurt this person.

[Eric J in MN]

1. Adultery? nt

nt

[Name removed]

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[Richard Steele]

62. And an unhealthy NEED for attention...

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

2. OK, which one is a closeted homosexual?

:)

[Walt Starr]

3. How can information violate somebody's civil rights?

:shrug:

[Rich Hunt]

59. I dunno

Maybe the poster has someone's home address and phone number?

:evilgrin:

[Fleshdancer]

4. can you tell us the dirt w/o telling us who it is?

are if not, can you tell us how you know this info?

[htuttle]

5. Is it about professional malfeasance...

... or something personal like sexual orientation?

Can't think of any good reason to keep professional malfeasance a secret.

[Jade Fox]

6. If it involves breaking the law....

you have no obligation to keep it to yourself.

[Rich Hunt]

54. and if not...

it's irrelevant trash, obv.

[KingFlorez]

7. Say what?

[Gato Moteado]

8. huh?

you have info that could fry a fascist and you'd rather not let it out?

i'm confused.

[wallwriter]

9. This is why the Democratic party is floundering. Spill now.

Or do it the Republican way. Leak it as an anonymous source.

[dogday]

10. You should tell us what the information is without

saying who the person is. Also tell us how do you know this information, again without naming names.....

[salinen]

11. I'd bring down my own Mother

if she was as responsible as Bush.

[still_one]

12. then why tell us?

what is the point?

[graywarrior]

13. I hope you realize DU'rs are relentless.

[Dawgs]

14. It does not break any law...

I heard it from a relative who is also a nurse.

[dogday]

21. Someone has AIDS? nt

[RubyDuby in GA]

26. I see you spell your name the way all good UGA fans do

If yes, does this mean you live in GA? And if so, does it pertain to Perdue? Someone that would be finished in the state? Or does it belong to one of our two spectular asshats, Saxby or Johnny?

C'mon...you can tell me.....I promise not to reveal you as my source.

[Dawgs]

75. I do live in Georgia, but my info comes from out of state...

Nice try though.

[bluedonkey]

35. If it's medical

your relative,the nurse,can and should be held accountable for disclosing confidential information.She should know better than to gossip and I don't care what political affiliation the patient is.

On the other hand,if it's criminal you should disclose,but I would talk to a lawyer first.Cover your own butt,at all times!

[Rich Hunt]

57. absolutely

If it were medical, the hospital or clinic the nurse worked for could get reamed in a lawsuit.

[comsymp]

69. Emphatically agree. Your relative

should never have disclosed this info to you! (17 yrs in healthcare here so of course i realize "shoulda" doesn't reflect the real world - have picked up some juicy gossip over the years, myself)

Regardless, you would be jeopardizing her if you repeat it.

[zbdent]

55. If it's about the lightbulb in the rectum,

check with snopes first.

But hey, if it's about a Repuke, go for it . . .

[bhunt70]

66. If it has to do with medical records leave it alone.

[seshers]

15. Just tell me and I promise to keep it a secret

;-)

[unhappycamper]

16. If you PM me with the info, I'll keep it safe for you.

Of course, I might accidentally hit the "Post Message" button while looking to see how it would look on DU, but it would be an accident. No. Really. I'll try not to.

:rofl:

[NeoGreen]

18. One suggestion...

Write down the information as you understand it.
Put the notes in an envelope and seal it.
Mail it to yourself and when it comes back either put it in a safe deposit box or give it to your lawyer (if you trust the person).

Just a suggestion.

[DURHAM D]

19. If it will "violate their civil rights" then keep it to yourself.

If it only violates her personal life - then go ahead and tell.

In your second paragraph you indicate you will never tell - in your last paragraph you ask a question. Which is it - you will never tell or you are thinking about telling.

[mtnsnake]

20. There's only one thing to do. Leak it.

It's for a good cause, so you need to do this.

[mtnsnake]

30. Wait I just read your post again. Let me ask you a question...

Is the person in question "evil" because of the private information you have on him or her? Or is it just something that's like of a medical situation or of a sexual preference situation. If it's the latter two, then maybe you should just forget about it. However, if it's something that adds to that person's "evilness", then by all means make sure the truth is leaked out.

[blondeatlast]

72. Exactly. Let's not sink to the RW level, but if they broke the law,

leak it, but see a lawyer first.

If it's medical or personal, do the right thing and keep it to yourself.

[geek tragedy]

22. Tell Robert Novak, Judy Miller and Matt Cooper. eom

[seshers]

23. Ooo I know what it is

Someone is HIV positive

[DURHAM D]

31. Question - if a female Congressperson is HIV + and they claim

to have contacted it through non-sexual means will that hurt them politically ?

[karlrschneider]

24. Bull

shit.
:grr:

[ohio_liberal]

25. But what do you do....

If you have some really nasty stuff on a Dem candidate that would probably make people think twice about voting for him/her? I don't mean just personal, it's business-type stuff as well.

[Gildor Inglorion]

34. Depends on the timing...

if it's before a primary, let the candidate know you'll release the info. if he/she doesn't withdraw. If it's before a general election, keep quiet about it. Whatever it is, the Repuke will be worse...

;-)

[in_cog_ni_to]

27. Ask yourself this...

If a repuke had this same information about a Democrat, would they reveal what they know? If the answer is yes, which it is, reveal the information.

This is WAR.

The repukes would leak this info on a Dem in a HEARTBEAT. Leak it. Tell what it is. We have to take these people DOWN, by any means possible.

[Stirk]

28. Apparently there are no moral problems if you don't actually use the name.

So just say what state they're from, and their initials.

[Walt Starr]

29. This is flamebait

Either post it, or stop this sort of shit.

[mtnsnake]

39. Not necessarily, but it might be "pulling our chains" which is

just as bad. Then again, the OP might sincerely be asking for our guidance, too.

If the info on this mysterious person is such that it relates to a medical problem or a sexual preference issue, then it should be kept private.

If the info is such that it is something politically evil this mysterious person has done, then it should by all means be leaked, so as to help our cause.

[Walt Starr]

70. If the OP is serious, he/she should have kept it to him/herself

so any way you want to cut it, this thread is flamebait.

[KingFlorez]

32. You ought to tell this

We need to bring this fascist down! Any piece of dirt can help

[Gold Metal Flake]

33. Did you mean for this to be a poll...

..or a general integrity check?

[tx_dem41]

36. Assuming it is medical-related, you definitely should keep it to yourself.

...your relative already violated his/her privacy rights (and broke Federal law, I believe) by telling you.

[converted_democrat]

37. I call B.S. !!!!!! n/t

Why would you even bring this up?????????

[Darwins Finch]

38. I know the secret of the universe

But I can't tell you, because it will drive you insane.

:eyes:

[seshers]

40. I'm going to make something up if you don't tell

So you might as well spill the beans.

:dilemma:

[Dhalgren]

41. If you give the "benefit of the doubt" or extend any kind of

ethical or moral scruples toward a fascist, then you are aiding and abetting the fascists. These are the enemies of Humanity, these are the enemies of our blood. To act in any way that shows any form of civility to any of them only acts to enable their inhumanity...

[tx_dem41]

43. Yes...by all means continue to implicate your relative (the nurse)...

in the violation of a Federal crime. DU demands it. :eyes:

[Gormy Cuss]

42. If by civil rights you mean the right to privacy,

Let it go. You don't even know this information for certain, you heard it from someone else. That person is the one with the choice. You just have gossip.

[Rich Hunt]

58. yes

"I heard it from so-and-so" is hearsay - it's worthless as information, and anyone dumb enough to repeat such trivia will come out looking like an airhead. Anyone who expects us to believe FOAF "information" is also arrogant to boot. This is how the most malicious whispering campaigns gain support.

I'm appalled at the number of people here who have used the old "well, the other side does it" rationalization. It's something that has always bothered me about DU. It's petty and childish, and it automatically invalidates any claims one might have to ethical behavior.

[Straight Shooter]

44. Do whatever you want.

Don't drag DU or your friend into it. Thanks.

[seshers]

45. Did our Dawg run away

"Who let the Dawgs out? Who who who who who?"

Yes, I am in GA. No I don't like the Dawgs.

[RubyDuby in GA]

51. Hey there seshers! Have you seen this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=146&topic_id=2424

You should come!

[bluestateguy]

46. That. Is why we lose.

Because we don't go Rove on their asses. I'm talking about election fixing in the states where our people are in power, race baiting, gay bashing, starting rumors about candidates AND their families (even their under aged 18 children) and planting evidence.

Frankly, I want the Democratic Party to start doing these things because they have to be done for the good of the nation.

It's all fine to say that we won't "stoop to their level", but we'll have to do it from the outside looking in.

[tx_dem41]

48. So you are urging the OP to ...

further implicate his relative in a Federal offense? And, if he/she doesn't (why they even started to, I have no idea why)...you are pinning part of the downfall of the Democratic Party on them?

Logical.

[Rich Hunt]

73. give me a break

So what you're saying is that the only thing wrong with smear campaigns is that there aren't enough of them..

That's basically an admission that you have no ethics.

[Liberal In Texas]

47. I'm going to guess: Anti-abortion repuke either had an abortion or

his wife or daughter did.

If so, it would be confidential medical information.

[mtnsnake]

50. or a positive pregnancy test came back on an underaged chick he knocked

up.

[BurtWorm]

49. Is the information about an aspect of this person's private life

that has bearing on Republican public policy? In other words, is the information you have about something the person does in private that his or her public acts seek to punish? The most obvious example is closet homosexual behavior from someone who sponsors or votes for or speaks on behalf of anti-gay and lesbian legislation. It seems legitimate to out someone who is that kind of a hypocrite.

On the other hand, if this person's private behavior is not criminal, hypocritical or unethical and has no bearing on the fact of the Republicans' total control of government, then it seems unethical to me to spill it. But if it's any of the above, lay it on us.

[Just Me]

52. What is your occupation? How did you get the information? n/t

[ultraist]

60. His/her relative is a nurse

And supposedly has incriminating medical info on a Congressman. Disclosing private medical info is unethical, not to mention illegal.

I think it's a flame bait post to encourage DUers to say they support violating medical confidentiality ethics.

[blondeatlast]

82. Yeah, and if he/she did this, fire their unscrupulous ass.

I have chronic medical conditions, and I don't want anyone this slimy treating me.

[ObaMania]

53. Let it out!

The more scandals the merrier! :party:

[Rich Hunt]

76. you have GOT to be kidding me.

So you support releasing people's private medical info?

How would you feel if it were done to you?

[mtnsnake]

56. hmm, people who are "just as much responsible for Bush..." Let's guess:

Poppy and Barbara Bush?

Karl Rove?

Rush?

Cheney?

Who else could it possibly be that "is just as much responsible for Bush, and what he's done to the country"?

[ComerPerro]

61. I don't care who it is, what it may be, or the ethics involved. Leak it

They wouldn't do any less.

[tx_dem41]

65. Do you care that you are probably asking someone to commit...

a Federal crime by leaking it? I know ethics don't bother you. You've made that plainly obvious. How about illegalities?

[ComerPerro]

68. In what way would it be a crime? We don't even know if there is any info

What if the information is: Santorum has a gay lover. Suppose the OP knows because they are friends with Santorum's lover.

How the fuck would that be a crime?

Chill out. You don't even know who or what the OP is talking about.

And, besides, last time I checked its apparently not even illegal to spread lies about people, no matter how slanderous or personal.

[tx_dem41]

74. If you read the entire thread, you will learn....

...that the OP learned this through a relative who is a nurse. From that, it is safe to assume that the condition is a medical matter. Privacy of medical conditions/records is protected by Federal law.

You remember that don't you? Its something Democrats fought for.

[Dawgs]

81. Thank you...

I now realize it was pretty stupid to start this thread, and I apologize for it. It was just eating me up inside and I needed to get it out.

I would love to reveal what I know, but it would hurt someone I love.

I just can't do it.

[Lecky]

63. If it's violating their civil rights this could turn around and make you

look like a jerk. It depends on what you know and what kind of personal information you would be revealing...

If revealing this information would put you in a league with Karl Rove, I wouldn't go there.

[ArkDem]

64. BFD

[RetroLounge]

67. Yeah, sure you do...

RL

[Bethany Rockafella]

71. You should contact the mods and tell them to lock this useless thread.

[blondeatlast]

77. I have. This is sickening. I won't resort to RW smear machine tactics. nt

[eissa]

78. As much as I would love

to see someone from the other side taken down, IF this involves a person's medical information and it was shared (illegally) by the nurse, I would keep it to myself for the sake of the nurse only. I know we tend to lose because of our higher standards, but I'd rather lose with dignity than win by the means they use.

[Zorra]

79. The fascists have changed the rules of the game.

All bets are off. If we do not attack the fascists and remove them from power, there will no longer be any civil rights whatsoever by 2008.

If the USA is to survive as a democracy, we must think and act like an active and effective non-violent resistance movement.

Ten years ago, I would have said leave it be.

Now, it is your duty to expose this fascist.

[tx_dem41]

85. If I can't trust a fellow Democrat to protect my civil and legal rights...

why should I ever vote for a Democrat again? Your urging of the OP to abet in a Federal crime is beyond the pale.

[blondeatlast]

90. The day we sink to that level of fighting is the day I turn my back

on my party--and I'm a 4th generation yellow dog.

Thanks for the note of sanity.

I'm getting ill reading this thread.

[crispini]

80. Here's a practical thought.

You found out some information from a relative who is also a nurse, so I am assuming you do not want to break this relative's confidence. Obviously, you should not do that.

Now, is there *another* way that this information might get out? Brainstorm and think about it. What might it be? ;)

Edited --> I'll PM you the rest. ;)

[mmonk]

83. As responsible for bush as who, the Supreme Court?

[IChing]

84. I have some inside information on a certain Republican PRESIDENT

I have some inside information on a certain Republican VICE PRESIDENT
I have some inside information on a certain Republican PRESIDENT
I have some inside information on a certain Republican ADVISOR
I have some inside information on a certain Republican CABINET MEMBER
I have some inside information on a certain Republican LEADER
I have some inside information on a certain Republican CONGRESSMAN


This information is private and would violate their civil rights if I let it be known.

[Janice325]

86. Umm, Dawgs,

Where did you disappear to????

[tx_dem41]

87. He/she is posting on the thread, presently. n/t

[Dawgs]

89. Umm, went to lunch...

Sorry I wasn't here for you.

[Norquist Nemesis]

88. Confused about the relative/nurse

Is the relative related to you or him/her?

[The Magistrate]

91. Locking

This is imflammatory.