Judith Miller is Not as Innocent as You Think

[stewert]

I suggest everyone read these articles and re-think your position on Judith Miller, that is if you think she should be seen as some innocent journalist trying to protect her sources.

I have been reading some interesting articles this morning, you guys should read them, it explains a lot.

New York Times apologizes for Judith Miller's work ... without naming her

http://www.unknownnews.net/040528miller.html

Miller's Latest Tale Questioned

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1984429

Note: Some people think Judith Miller was used by the Bush administration, I think she helped them, and did it knowingly. Otherwise she would have checked with other sources in the intelligence community to see if what Chalabi was telling her was true. The fact that she pretty much published every lie he told her without asking actual intelligence analysts for their information says a lot.

Like this guy:

Greg Thielmann Interview:

In this interview, Greg Thielmann, a former director of the Strategic, Proliferation and Military Affairs Office at the State Department's Intelligence Bureau, accuses the White House of "systematic, across-the-board exaggeration" of intelligence as it made its case that Saddam Hussein posed an imminent threat to the U.S. Thielmann, who left his job in September 2002, also contends that much of the intelligence about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction was entirely politicized. "Senior officials made statements which I can only describe as dishonest," he says. "They were distorting some of the information that we provided to make it seem more alarmist and more dangerous." This interview was conducted on August 12, 2003.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/truth/interviews/thielmann.html

What about Karen Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. USAF (ret.), how come Judith Miller did not ask her if the information Chalabi was giving her was true.

Read this:

In Rumsfeld's Shop

A senior Air Force officer watches as the neocons consolidate their Pentagon coup.

Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski recently retired from the U.S. Air Force. Her final posting was as an analyst at the Pentagon. Below is the first of three installments describing her experience there. They provide a unique view of the Department of Defense during a period of intense ideological upheaval, as the United States prepared to launch—for the first time in its history—a "preventive" war.

http://www.militaryweek.com/kk120103.shtml

How The Tale Unfolds
A chronological look at the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1083895,00.html

Why the Media Owe You an Apology on Iraq

http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0328-08.htm

The Times and Iraq

http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/9/4621

Yellowcake forgery

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellowcake_Forgery

Butler Review

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butler_Review

Dodgy Dossier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodgey_Dossier

Joseph C. Wilson on Niger and Iraq

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Wilson

Mr. Rove and the Access of Evil

by Greg Palast

The only thing more evil, small-minded and treacherous than the Bush Administration's jailing Judith Miller for a crime the Bush Administration committed, is Judith Miller covering up her Bush Administration "source."

Judy, Karl Rove ain't no "source." A confidential source -- and I've worked with many -- is an insider ready to put himself on the line to blow the whistle on an official lie or hidden danger. I would protect a source's name with my life and fortune as would any journalist who's not a craven jerk (the Managing Editor of Time Magazine comes to mind).

But the weasel who whispered "Valerie Plame" in Miller's ear was no source. Whether it was Karl Rove or some other Rove-tron inside the Bush regime (and no one outside Bush's band would have had this information), this was an official using his official info to commit a crime for the sole purpose of punishing a REAL whistleblower, Joseph Wilson, Plame's husband, for questioning our President's mythological premise for war in Iraq.

New York Times reporter Miller and her paper would rather she go to prison for four months than identify their "source." Why?

Part of her oddball defense is that The Times never ran the story about Wilson's wife. They get no points for that. The Times SHOULD have run the story with the headline: BUSH OPERATIVE COMMITS FELONY TO PUNISH WHISTLEBLOWER. The lead paragraph should have been, "Today, Mr. K--- R--- attempted to plant sensitive intelligence information on The New York Times, a felony offense, in an attempt to harm former Ambassador Joseph Wilson who challenged the President's claim regarding Iraq's nuclear program."

A Karl Rove or Rove-like creature peddling a back-door smear doesn't make him a source. Miller's real crime is not concealing a source, but burying the story. A reporter should never, ever give notes to a grand jury, but this information is something The Times owes the PUBLIC, not the prosecutors.

Why didn't The Times run this story? Why not now? Who are they covering for and why?

Full Story:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0713-23.htm

[punpirate]

1. There's an old adage that goes...

"you're known by the company you keep."

In Judith Miller's case, Chalabi immediately comes to mind.

But, go back a bit further in history.

Laurie Mylroie.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

2. Who thinks Miller is innocent? She is one of the driving forces in

getting us into an illegal, immoral war.

[rosesaylavee]

3. She must be key to the prosecution's case

for Patrick Fitzgerald to be able to convince the Judge to jail her for contempt. She is protecting herself - not her source. Very interested to find out how this will play out.

[understandinglife]

6. Welcome to DU, rosesaylavee. Check our Judge Tatel's comments ....

..., as quoted by Lawrence O'Donnell, recently, and you will see that the overriding issue in denying Miller and Cooper their claim is the harm to our "national security" within the case being pursued by Fitzgerald.

Here's a link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4061316#4061533


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[rosesaylavee]

11. Exactly - Lawrence was the one who first

mentioned that the leaker was Karl Rove on the McLaughlan Group. One of my favorite political moments to date. Looking forward to more moments like that one or better.

Thanks for the welcome.

[Carla in Ca]

18. Someone on AAR said that today.

They said if she would testify, she would use the 5th amendment, not the first...interesting.

[TahitiNut]

21. The reason she WOULDN'T use the Fifth Amendment ...

... is because Fitzgerald would give her "Use Immunity" for her Grand Jury testimony, which eradicates any self-incrimination posture.

So, she has no choice but to hide behind her corrupt and specious facade of martyrdom. She's complict; she's been knowingly spreading the WMD Hoax; she's a criminal.

[Carla in Ca]

22. Do you agree that Novak got use immunity

and then sang like a bird?
And, yeah, she is bad, bad news.

[TahitiNut]

24. It's possible, I suppose. I have a tough time figuring out what Novak ...

... did in front of the Grand Jury. Without more information, I figure he named Rove and Libby, based on the "release" the White House gave. I think Cooper's verification that it was Rove and Libby was what Fitzgerald was going for. I think Fitzgerald has a good idea who Miller talked to. I'm guessing that Fitzgerald is going for a 'conspiracy' charge.

[understandinglife]

4. Excellent summary and references. You know, from my previous posts, ....

... what I think of Ms Miller. For now, Fitzgerald is letting her pretend A1 when, in reality, she's actually using A5.

WATCH IT; SPREAD IT http://www.bushflash.com/right.html

Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us - How ever long it takes, the day must come when tens of millions of caring individuals peacefully but persistently defy the dictator, deny the corporatists their cash flow, and halt the evil being done in Iraq and in all the other places the Bu$h neoconster regime is destroying civilization and the environment in the name of "America."

[Disturbed]

7. Ms Miller shielding a Whistleblower?

That is absurd. Ms. Miller was smiling her pixie smile in the car on the way to Club Fed. She was smiling because she loves to be in the spotlight and she knows that she will recieve huge amounts of money in her offshore account. On top of that she is a martyr/heroin to millions. She has a lot to smile about.

[Auntie Bush]

15. Don't forget all the millions she will make when she writes her book!

She will be famous/infamous when she gets out...just like all the other Nixon crooks? Yes, she is going to have a million dollar smile...maybe even a million dollar movie.

[burythehatchet]

5. Did Judy know about the forgeries maybe?

Since she seemed to have the "inside" track on information, did she perhaps know about the involvement of Michael Ledeen in the Italian forgeries?

on edit - which would explain why she never wrote an article NOR gave the notes to her editor. She knew exactly what was going down and what the outcome would be. She could be seriously fucked.

[stepnw1f]

8. Miller Was Not Protecting A Whistle Blower!!!

She was helping to cover up a crime and may be an accomplice of the original crime itself.

Her actions jeopardized the media's freedom. It's probably what they wanted. Just immoral...

[bvar22]

9. The source of Judith Miller's LIES!

Ahmed Chalabi
Guest of Honor
State of the Union Address 2004
Convicted Felon still evading prison in Jordan
sitting in "The President's Box" with Laura Bush

[Outrider]

14. But who was his source

I'd lay odds that it was Bolton.

[blm]

10. Are you at the right website? Most everyone here knowss she's a BFEE tool.

Innocent is the last thing I'd call Miller. The only reason she's scared is she knows how evil her bosses are and can't avoid the conflict in her position right now.

[wisteria]

12. I was curious if she may be receiving $ to keep quite.

Of course, I am only speculating here.

[Disturbed]

13. Will a book deal for her surprise anyone?

She will reap millions and be a heroin to millions. She is smiling that pixie smile and lovin' her spotlight.

[wanpete]

16. I have no pity for her at all. She's got the goods and was a war wangster

[nolabels]

17. Her pompous ass finally caught up with her crap for brains

Or in our attempts to deceive others, we often deceive ourselves as much (or more).


http://mtglair.de/homer.html

That set of cards has some interesting artwork

[PurityOfEssence]

19. Yep. I think she's guilty as hell, and she's not as innocent as that.

Whether it's just an extreme bigotry to do anything Israel wants or other reasons, she's deeply and morally guilty. Her cheerleading and outright fraud leading up to the Iraq War Resolution and the war itself were shocking moments of transparent partisanship.

The New York Times needs to take some responsibility for this, too, and so do the blinkered Israel supporters who will tolerate anything to lash out at that state's enemies.

Extremely guilty as she seemed to be, she's worse.

[Boo Boo]

20. Thanks for the links stewert

Don't usually bookmark DU threads, but I'm keepin' this one!

[althecat]

23. FLASHBACK: Judith Miller and the WMD Fairy - A BUZZFLASH READER COMMENTARY

http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/04/23_fairies.html

[peekaloo]

25. .

:kick:

[Skidmore]

26. Miller's current utility is to

flagellate the press for their wilingness to be lazy and give this administration a blank check to destroy this nation. Only once their credibility has been severely eroded and now that they realize that not a single one of them, regardless of how highly they are paid, is beyond being reviled and strung up, did any of them develop a willingness to even put up a whimper of dissent. I have no sympathy for any of them.