Does this mean we're all going to get arrested???

[orleans]

so.....if we're members of ACLU or Greenpeace (and I'm a member of both) should we be expecting to be hauled off? well, i'm here--at my computer, eating a bagel.

"FBI Says It Monitored ACLU, Greenpeace
From Times Wire Reports

July 18, 2005
The FBI has thousands of pages of records in its files relating to the monitoring of civil rights, environmental and similar advocacy groups, the Justice Department said.

The organizations, including the American Civil Liberties Union and Greenpeace, are suing for the release of the documents.

The organizations contend that the material will show that they have been subjected to scrutiny by FBI task forces set up to combat terrorism.

The FBI has identified 1,173 pages related to the ACLU and 2,383 pages on Greenpeace, but needs at least until February to process the ACLU files and until June to review the Greenpeace documents, the government said in a filing in U.S. District Court."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-briefs18.2jul18,1,391156.story?coll=la-headlines-nation

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. That reminds me, I have to renew my ACLU membership.

Come get me, assholes.

[kedrys]

2. Same here

It's going out in tomorrow morning's mail.

Do yer worst, bitches. I ain't going nowhere. :raspberry:

[catzies]

27. Thanks. I got my renewal in the mail today too. Paying it tomorrow.

Come and get me too, assholes.

[acmavm]

3. They monitor the internet constantly. Not just Greenpeace or the ACLU.

They no doubt monitor DU.

Screw 'em.

[GreenPartyVoter]

4. *tipping virtual hat to Agent Mike*

[acmavm]

10. Hey, was that for real? Or just the product of someone's overactive

imagination? I mean I am sure that someone is lurking at all times, but wasn't that supposed to be someone FBI agent stalking Bev What's-her-bucket?

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. I have no idea whether he was for real, but I like the name Mike so I am

sticking with it. (For all we know, it's really a Michelle who is assigned to watch us.)

[IChing]

19. I also like the name Agent Smith

who has worked on many missions for our government

[FreedomAngel82]

35. Oh wow

Is he for real? If so he can come and spy on me anytime. Growl!!! Wher is a drool icon when you need one? Oh and I love the Kennedy photo. *sigh*

[IChing]

37. Well as you see in the photo, Kennedy had his agent Smith also

Hugo rocks as a elf or agent

[GreenPartyVoter]

45. Yes. He does the trick. But I would rather have A.D. Skinner

looking in on us, wouldn't you? (I mean, come on. The guy thinks for himself. He might even lean toward our way of thinking.)

[orleans]

46. i'd rather have val

[dweller]

14. *flipping virtual finger*

along with ya.

dp

[IChing]

20. You can pay for a service

that can show what internet providers are watching the site

AND THIS ONE HAS AROUND 5% THAT ARE FROM US GOVT. at any given time

[dweller]

22. in that case

...damn, where's my matcom smiley ass emoticon?...

:)
dp

[IChing]

26. The thing is I can't tell who is using what service be it

private or public but the site I use does give a venn diagram on the %, also
other data for this site or others if I chose

now granted during the day, some work for the govt and are OK be it
troops etc. but you bet this site and others are monitored,

I watched the Daily show and it was the bomb in their discussion of the
problems in Washington, I laughed my ass off when Jon Stewart attacked
the white house arguments on the Rove leaks. Meanwhile this weekend I plan to go to the beach with my nuclear family, which includes my x wife and kids.
But I think I might have problems with my x wife, which is not my plan for the day

[orleans]

29. i get the impression you are speaking in code

therefore i would like to know how you "bold" these words because i would like to speak in code too.

also, what are you talking about? a site that monitors? 5%? what is that?

p.s. if you know how i can write in italics or underline please let me know that as well.

B-)

[IChing]

33. In a way it's a joke...it was really

They have computers that pick up certain words
to check traffic for terrorist but usually anyone with a brain would not use
the words that triggered the alert
MINE WAS A JOKE!!!! I STILL CAN'T ALONG WITH MY X
AND THE DAILY SHOW WAS THE BOMB TONIGHT.

the site monitor I use and pay for is site meter
it gives tons of information


http://www.sitemeter.com/default.asp?action=home

you can find out in real time traffic report which is underline in the link to find amazing
things on your site or others.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

38. borrow mine...

or

??? :)

[rexcat]

5. I am a long time member of the ACLU...

also Amnesty International. Looks like we are in the same boat, so to speak!

It has become apparent that the Federal and State governments along with the FBI and state and local police departments have turned the US of A into a fascist country. We can thank the neo-cons and other right wingers for this.

[Enquiringkitty]

28. Oooooo! We are all unreliable American and possible insurgents.

Who was it that made the statement, "The truth shall set you free"? Well..... not any more people! Caring about the future of the earth and future generation is now an un-American value.

[marmar]

6. No story has pissed me off more this evening...

No wonder we can't catch terrorists, intelligence officers are too busy spying on peace groups and civil liberties organizations. This is some sickening bullshit. Americans need to wake up and smell the fascism.

:grr:

[FreedomAngel82]

36. It's all about control

Controlling people and their thoughts. If you have groups out like the ACLU and Amnesty International getting the truth out there to people it won't be good for their agenda. Check out the White Rose Society. I'm sure you probably already know about them though. This group is my inspiration.

[beam me up scottie]

7. HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Big Brother !!!

:hi:

[MuseRider]

8. Fuck them.

I will belong to whatever I choose to belong to and I am pretty certain that everyone here feels exactly the same. This shit has got to stop. What are they gonna do? Arrest us all?

[donco6]

9. I have no doubt whatsoever that there's a little file with all . . .

. . . of our posts on it in some big faceless building in Virginia.

[Dragonfli]

11. I'm Sure

They have miles of pretty files..

of my forefathers fruit...


I just plain don't give a flying F*&^!

[Jack Rabbit]

13. Obviously, we haven't been hauled off yet

However, this isn't good.

[wli]

15. the FBI is trying to hint that most of the files are innocuous

I'm not sure I believe it without seeing them, but it may well turn out to be the case.

[kestrel91316]

17. And exactly why would the FBI need "innocuous" files????

[wli]

21. it would probably be best to look at the original quote

But I got the impression they were trying to say that some of it was correspondence from the organizations themselves and about the organizations as opposed to surveillance.

[kestrel91316]

23. I was being sarcastic nt

[kestrel91316]

24. FBI asshats (mutter, mutter)

[orleans]

30. to "inoculate" us??

and now we won't remember a thing.

[City Lights]

16. Don't they have more pressing issues to deal with?

:eyes:

If they're roundin' us up, they'll have to take my whole family. Husband and I are Guardians, and kids have student memberships. Four card-carrying members in my house.

[Straight Shooter]

18. Ha! Even CSI makes the FBI out to be a bunch of arrogant jackasses.

Just another case of television imitating life, and doing a damn good job of it, too.

Hi, Gil Grissom. Love ya, baby :loveya:

[MrSlayer]

25. The ACLU? Terrorists?

That's pretty fucking weird. I've never heard of them committing terrorist acts. Greenpeace I wouldn't call terrorists the way I would ELF and ALF and their ilk, though I do disagree with them trying to hurt common workers with their tree spiking parties and shit. Greenpeace is mostly harmless and I see the ACLU as benevolent. They should be infiltrating the extreme religious sects of every denomination, that's where you are most likely to find terrorists.

[orleans]

31. here's a little fun quiz on the ACLU website:

"Find out if you could be in the FBI's files!

The ACLU has evidence that the FBI and local police, working together through so-called Joint Terrorism Task Forces, are gathering information and collecting files on environmental, anti-war, political, and faith-based groups and centers of worship.

Could you be a target, too? Answer these 6 quick questions to find out!"
http://www.aclu.org/Quizzes/QuizIntro.cfm?quizID=12

and watch out for FED-ex
"Maybe you haven't sent a parcel lately, but you should know that FedEx maintains its own deputized police force and is part of a Joint Terrorism Task Force. We don't yet know what kind of information FedEx is sharing with the FBI and other law enforcement officials, but given what we know about JTTF activity, we thought you'd want to know about the relationship."

[UTUSN]

32. Well, of COURSE We Are, Dearie! Nice to Meecha n/t

[orleans]

41. the pleasure's all mine

:toast: :toast: :toast:

[FreedomAngel82]

34. Thank God for the ACLU

I don't know why people out there don't like them. They are a treasure to our country. Imagine what people could get away with in this country if it wasn't for them. I shudder at that thought.

[shance]

39. If you allow yourself to be dictated by those who will take away your

rights, you bet everything that you hold dear will be taken away from you Orleans.

Are you willing to give up everything that has been fought for and EARNED by those who had the courage to fight? Then yes, give it up, sit back and relax while everything is stolen from you.

If not, then quit accepting defeat, and learn how to fight for what is rightfully yours.

Its up to you and me and every other American. It's up to all of us.

In the end, we will see what this country called America is truly made of.

[orleans]

40. it's okay shance, i'm not accepting defeat

i continue to fight for our freedoms

i think it's absurd that files are being collected on the ACLU--kinda like searching the grannies at the airports--

i just watched the rerun of the daily show and woodward & bernstein were on. bernstein made a very interesting comment--something to the effect that this white house is more busy trying to destroy the other party (democrats) than they are trying to catch terrorists.

of course, that's how so many of us feel--but it was refreshing to hear someone say it.

[shance]

42. Yes, it's more than helpful to be reaffirmed.

I do apologize for getting too strong.

Im worried about our country and namely, Im concerned about any apprehension to fight for what is ours as Americans.

[orleans]

43. no need to apologize--i'm worried too

worry
frustration
rage
it all comes down to
too much passion to be apprehensive about this

[shance]

44. No doubt***Amen to that.

Too much passion to be apprehensive about this.

Beautiful words...


;)