Minister: Women becoming lesbians because they work

[quaoar]

http://www.washblade.com/2005/7-15/news/localnews/minister.cfm

Minister’s fiery anti-gay sermon riles activists
Influential Rev. Wilson leads Millions More Movement

By KATHERINE VOLIN and LOU CHIBBARO JR.

An influential D.C. minister is under fire by local gay activists following an anti-gay sermon in which he claimed that, “lesbianism is about to take over our community.”

Rev. Willie Wilson delivered the remarks at Union Temple Baptist Church in Southeast D.C., where he is pastor. Wilson is a former mayoral candidate and serves as executive director of the Millions More Movement march, an effort to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the Million Man March.

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“Sisters making more money than brothers and it’s creating problems in families … that’s one of the reasons many of our women are becoming lesbians,” Wilson said.

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“Lesbianism is about to take over our community. … I ain’t homophobic because everybody here got something wrong with him,” he said. “But … women falling down on another woman, strapping yourself up with something, it ain’t real. That thing ain’t got no feeling in it. It ain’t natural. Anytime somebody got to slap some grease on your behind and stick something in you, it’s something wrong with that. Your butt ain’t made for that.

[PurityOfEssence]

1. ...with guys like him.

That'll drive ya to it.

[RPM]

53. yup

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Cha]

73. Sometimes I think we have the

most stupid people in the World..right here in the good 'ol USA.

Then I think about that Pizza guy in Denmark who wouldn't serve the French or Germans because they wouldn't bomb Iraq with bush and blair.

He wouldn't pay the fine for being stupid.. so they sent him to jail and he took an American flag and a picture of bush and picklebreath.

A DUer said .."Too bad it was just a picture of bush"!

Lost his business, too, because even though he got letters of encouragement from America..the Pizza place was vandalized and he couldn't pay his bills.

I said.."who would want nazipizza, anyway?".

But, I digress :silly:

[donco6]

2. All I can say is . . .

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[havocmom]

3. The man (and I use the word with reservations in this case) is nuts

and sorta stupid.

[bribri16]

4. Who let Willie out of the closet?

Just asking. He's more than homophobic (which doesn't keep one from being gay himself), he's chauvanistic, and deceitful.

[TexasLady]

with his vivid description

he must have thought this through again...
and again
and again.

good grief

[Jersey Ginny]

77. He watches porn for the "educational" value for his sermons

His sex talk sounds informed and fun. Clearly a voice of experience!

[ET Awful]

5. LMAO . . . that last paragraph is so freakin' far out there it's almost

unbelievable.

"slap some grease on your behind"????

Hey buddy, I'm sure that those lesbians you're so worried about have figured out what their butt is and isn't made for. Here's a little hint for you . . . just because they're lesbians doesn't mean they lack the necessary . . . regions in the front, I mean . . . WTF?

[slackmaster]

6. Another religious fanatic buffoon

Nothing to see here. Move along.

[quaoar]

13. He apparently has a number of people who agree with him

This is from the story:

The congregation can be heard shouting its approval in the background during Wilson’s sermon.

[slackmaster]

22. You know how dumb the average person is, right?

Half of them are DUMBER THAN THAT!

[Starbucks Anarchist]

70. George Carlin, right?

[slackmaster]

84. J. R. "Bob" Dobbs

High Epopt of the Church of the SubGenius.

http://www.subgenius.com

[htuttle]

85. "You'll PAY to find out what you REALLY think!"

[slackmaster]

86. "Justify your sins!"

:nuke:

[SemperEadem]

58. didn't his God tell him

judge not lest ye be judged?

Seems those who have the mentality this charlitan has are up to their eyeballs in that which they pretend offends them. I'll bet Wilson's got a few lovers on the DL he brings into his office for 'spiritual counselling'.

[Beaver Tail]

7. That reminds me of a SNL skit years ago

Where John Lovetts says “its men like that who turn women Lezbo”

That skit was so funny ...just like this idiot

[JuniperLea]

8. this is so wrong

on so many levels i don't know where to begin. i guess i don't have to, it speaks volumes on this guy's stupidity all on its own.

[ewagner]

9. hmmmm

he knows far too much about strap-ons and butts if you ask me....

[aden_nak]

10. Holy Sexual Repression, Batman!

Get that man a date! Or at least a copy of Toys in Babeland.

[XemaSab]

11. The sexism here is palpable

“Sisters making more money than brothers and it’s creating problems in families … that’s one of the reasons many of our women are becoming lesbians,” Wilson said.

So women who can get good jobs that pay better than men shouldn't take the jobs, because they will turn gay????

[gkhouston]

15. What about men? Should they shun high-paying jobs

for fear of becoming gay? Or is it only weakling females who have their "natural" sexual identities crushed by contact with the cruel world? :sarcasm:

[XemaSab]

21. No, minimum wage jobs turn men gay...

if the fundies want to abolish homosexuality, they should raise the minimum wage to 15 an hour!

[Lex]

12. I feel most sorry for this guy's poor wife.

If he's even got one.

[Ian David]

23. His wife's the one who taught him about strap-ons....

"Oh... that thing in my nightstand? It's a strap-on. I bought it because... so I... uhm... errr... Oh, so I can use it on you! Yeah, that's right. That's the ticket. So I can use it on you."

[Saphire]

14. hmmm but do I work because I'm lesbian, or am I lesbian because

I work???????????????????

[eissa]

16. My mom was a lesbian?

I would have never guessed! I've been working since I was in my teens and I have yet to feel the urge to grab one of my female co-workers :shrug:

[gratuitous]

17. Can't tell from the context

Was he alarmed or aroused when he said that "Lesbianism is about to take over our community." It's kind of tough to figure, based on his rather, ahem, detailed description that follows. I hope he at least had the decency to stand behind the podium while he was carrying on so as not to offend the sensibilities of his congregants, if you know what I mean.

[anarch]

18. this guy is a total buffoon

I saw some clips of him on the local news the other day...pretty amazing, really. So over the top I thought it had to be a joke...but he is evidently serious! It's even better with the visual of him...eyes all bugged out, spittle flying out of his mouth, him screaming this crazy jibberish. Almost makes me want to go to his church just for laughs.

"Lesbians! Lesbians everywhere...lesbians surrounding me!!! AAAAAGGHGHG!"

[politicaholic]

19. It must have been open mic night...

for horrible comedians.

[Ian David]

20. So you can pay women to become gay?

How much does it cost to turn a woman bi, just for one night?

[MsAnthropy]

24. Boy has he got it backwards

Speaking for myself, I work so that I have access to more men to be promiscuous with! :sarcasm:

[gkhouston]

28. that's right, women *had* to enter the work force

when they stopped home milk delivery. ;-)

[MsAnthropy]

29. ROFLAO!

:rofl:

[htuttle]

25. "That's 'Lesbian'. It starts with 'L' and that rhymes with 'hell'..."

"...and that spells trouble!"

Monorail, monorail, monorail, monorail, Monoraaaaiiiiiil!


Why doesn't the Right Reverend Willie Wilson go get himself a real job so that some poor woman doesn't risk getting becoming a lesbian?

BTW, his description of lesbian sex betrays the number of hours he's spent imagining it....

“But … women falling down on another woman, strapping yourself up with something, it ain’t real. That thing ain’t got no feeling in it. It ain’t natural. Anytime somebody got to slap some grease on your behind and stick something in you, it’s something wrong with that. Your butt ain’t made for that."

Lord, protect me from your followers...especially the horny repressed ones.

[ComerPerro]

26. And when your wife is so hopped up on Valuim that she can't feel anything

That ain't natural either.

[mtnester]

27. No dammit, women become TIRED when they work

dang it.

[elperromagico]

30. I knew there was something odd about Liddy Dole.

If Bob doesn't want to lose his wife to the other team, he'd better make her resign the Senate immediately.

[nolabels]

54. Maybe he ought to lay off them little blue pills too

Liddy is probably gettin tired seeing it tied up around his leg

[MsTryska]

31. so essentially....

he's saying men are really weak right?


i mean isn't that his rationalization?



so why doesn't he spend his time counseling the menfolk on all the ways they are screwing up, so the wimmins ain't gotta go strap soemthing on and fall on top of other wimmins?


i ain't sexist against men or anything, but damn.

[Modem Butterfly]

32. Here's the text of the sermon: Warning, NC-17 rating!

You know, if I, as an atheist, were to write something like this as a parody, I would be flamed so hard I'd be charbroiled.

We live in a time when our brothers have been so put down, can’t get a job, lot of the sisters making more money than brothers. And it’s creating problems in families. That’s one of the reasons our families’ breaking up. And that’s one of the reasons many of our women are becoming lesbians. You got to be careful when you say you don’t need no man. I can make it by myself. Well, if you don’t need a man, what’s left? Lesbianism is about to take over our community. I’m talking about young girls. My son in high school last year, trying to go to the prom, he said, ‘Dad, I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom because all the girls in my class are gay. There ain’t but two of them straight and both of them are ugly. I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom.’ Now, can I talk here? I ain’t homophobic, because everybody in here got something wrong with him. Whoever you point at, you can point at your own self. You got something wrong with your life. But when you get down to this thing, women falling down on another woman, strapping yourself up with something, it ain’t real. That thing ain’t got no feeling in it. It ain’t natural. Any time somebody got to slap some grease on your behind, and stick something in you, it’s something wrong with that. Your butt ain’t made for that. You got blood vessels and membranes in your behind. And if you put something unnatural in there, it breaks them all up. No wonder your behind is bleeding. It’s destroying us. Can’t make no connection with a screw and another screw. The Bible says God made them male and female. The Hebrew word "neged," which means complementary nature — there is something unique to man and unique to woman and it takes those two things to complement each other. You can’t make a connection with two screws. It takes a screw and a nut! (shouting).”

That is the most graphic sermon I have ever read.

[bunkerbuster1]

35. "Dad, I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom because all the girls

...in my class are gay."

Sure, son. SURE.

[lukasahero]

51. "There ain’t but two of them straight and both of them are ugly."

'Nuff said.

[knitter4democracy]

36. All of this is because his son couldn't get a date?

His son takes the easy way out by saying that, instead of just not liking him for whatever reason (or that he's gay and doesn't want to go out with a girl), all the girls in his school are lesbian.

Also, um, I think he seriously got mixed up on what lesbians do and what gays do.

[MsTryska]

68. or perhaps his son has no game......

and takes what is actually a classic "you're a loser, go away" shut down as the girls not wanting him because they're dykes.


or maybe it neve rhappenned the boy is actually a really nice kid, but dad needed a story to fashion his descriptions of hot lesbian strap-on sex around, so that he could have Sunday's sermon.

[knitter4democracy]

69. I would agree with fabrication, but that doesn't ring right.

All the PKs I knew in high school and college were used to being the subjects of sermons but nothing so very embarrassing as a non-existant dating life. And some of the kids I knew had massive jerks for dads.

Honestly, it sounds like an excuse from the kid that the dad actually took seriously.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

71. If, God forbid, I was that minister...

I'd be more worried about my son's lack of proper grammar rather than whether he can get a prom date or not.

[MsTryska]

82. well...... the apple apparently

doesn't fall from the tree. ;)


seems like his dad wouldn't know proper grammar if it strapped on a dildo and greased up his backside.

[crispini]

37. WTF is he talking about?

:eyes: That -- :eyes:

[gkhouston]

43. good question

apparently all of the girls in his son's high school have good jobs and are therefore lesbians who exclusively practice anal sex. Oops, except for those straight girls who were too ugly to ask to the prom. :rofl:

[crispini]

44. LOL!

:thumbsup: What planet does HE live on? :eyes:

[gkhouston]

46. one very far away from ours, I am sure

the lesbians I know figured out they were gay long before they entered the workforce. Betcha this guy's got a stash of porn hidden away somewhere and you can guess what's in the pictures...

[livinginphotographs]

50. This moron. It's obvious that the problem isn't lesbians

but ugly straight women. :evilgrin:

[SemperEadem]

67. time to parse the stupidity

We live in a time when our brothers have been so put down, can’t get a job, lot of the sisters making more money than brothers

And whose fault is that? Are you saying that it's the fault of parents who want their daughters to be educated and able to take care of themselves? What do you say to the fathers of young girls? "Keep her out of school--make her find a man--even one who'll beat her-- instead of that job for which she spent 8 years in undergrad and graduate school preparing." ? Is keeping a black woman uneducated his solution to high unemployment rates among black males?

And that’s one of the reasons many of our women are becoming lesbians. You got to be careful when you say you don’t need no man. I can make it by myself. Well, if you don’t need a man, what’s left?

What documentation do you have to back up this assertion? What studies do you site that has this conclusion? Why does one have to be careful when they say 'they don't need no man'? Because it cuts you out of the mix? Plenty of women who've gotten to this point have had really, really bad experiences with men and would rather be left alone than to be in a relationship just to make someone who has no direct bearing on their life feel better about being a chauvanist. What's left? The toilet seat remains down.

I’m talking about young girls. My son in high school last year, trying to go to the prom, he said, ‘Dad, I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom because all the girls in my class are gay. There ain’t but two of them straight and both of them are ugly. I ain’t got nobody to take to the prom.’

Could it be because your son is butt ugly, stinks, has no social skills because he's followed your poor example that he has no date to the prom? Sounds to me like all the girls in his class are really, really smart. Your son should work more on his English and worry less about that which he does not know. "I ain't go no..." Christ!!! That's why he can't get a job, s0n!!!!

Now, can I talk here? I ain’t homophobic, because everybody in here got something wrong with him. Whoever you point at, you can point at your own self. You got something wrong with your life.

You are homophobic--your very beliefs are the dictionary definition of homophobic. We all fall short before the grace of God, even you, preacherman... and because of that, you can't tell me shit.

But when you get down to this thing, women falling down on another woman, strapping yourself up with something, it ain’t real. Your butt ain’t made for that. You got blood vessels and membranes in your behind. And if you put something unnatural in there, it breaks them all up. No wonder your behind is bleeding. It’s destroying us

Hemmerhoids cause rectal bleeding, too--and pregnancy can exacerbate them. Should we outlaw pregnancy, too? I'm sorry, but how does what someone does in the privacy of their own home destroy you, unless you're an attention whore?

Any time somebody got to slap some grease on your behind, and stick something in you, it’s something wrong with that.

So, according to you, doctors shouldn't prescribe colonoscopies?

The Bible says God made them male and female.

http://www.bidstrup.com/sodomy.htm
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/07/0722_040722_gayanimal.html
http://www.dailycardinal.com/media/paper439/news/2004/02/12/News/Animal.Homosexuality.Adds.To.Gay.Rights.Debate-605235.shtml

I know science is too much of an abstract for your feeble mind to grasp, but your ignorance doesn't excuse its existence. And just because you can holler loudly doesn't mean that you're right.


GAWD!!!! I hate stupid, ignorant preachers. I abhor even more those who follow blindly and refuse to educate themselves.

[KamaAina]

33. Willie Wilson? The guy who struck out 30 times in the '80 World Series?

Well, not 30, but he did whiff for both the first and last outs...

OK, so it's not him. But this Willie Wilson is on pace to break the ex-Royal's K record in a hurry:

Sisters making more money than brothers and it’s creating problems in families

Yeah, much better to be mired in poverty, as long as the man's paltry income is "greater" :sarcasm:

I ain't homophobic because everybody here got something wrong with him

Where do I even begin? Words fail me.

That thing ain’t got no feeling in it. It ain’t natural.

This loony rant brought to you by 100% all-natural Viagra... oh wait... never mind.

[libnnc]

38. selfdelete

[Blue_Tires]

52. hey! but he did win the batting title in '82

and lead the AL in triples 4 times!

fwiw, he did go 4-26 in the '80 WS (12 SO)

but that aside, this preacher is pure comedy gold

[DanCa]

34. Unbelivable but to lighten this thread

I was scourring the phone book to look for an episcopal church in the huntville area. I will be visiting there soon. Any I came across name the "primitive baptist church". yes i did. I thought it was pretty funny and pretty releveant considering this mouth breather.
Note I know plenty of good baptist who dont feel this way. Unfortunately its the loud moronic cooks who get the press.

[jane_pippin]

39. So.....this means Condi is a lesbian?

I'm so confused.

:silly:

[Yavin4]

40. Is This The David Chappelle Skit?

Sounds awfully familiar.

[libnnc]

41. Working (smacks forehead)...

so *thats* what did it, eh?

Hmmm...so how come since I've been in school and out of the workforce all this time, I still fantasize about getting it on with my Feminist Theories professor? :evilgrin:

Doesn't add up... :shrug:

[jane_pippin]

45. Yeah, but....

You aren't at home instead of working. You're right in the thick of the evil liberal lesbian recruitment zone that is academia.

;)

[libnnc]

47. the liberal lesbian recruitment zone that is academia...

otherwise known as HOG HEAVEN! :evilgrin:

[jane_pippin]

48. LOL...exact-a-ma-ly

[EOTE]

87. Another point....

Isn't it funny how fundies make up their own statistics regarding homosexuality whenever it fits them? When they want to make homosexuals appear not mainstream, they take the common 7 to 9% figure and say it's much lower, closer to 1 to 2%. Now this guy is so scared that lesbianism is becoming rampant that he suggests his son's high school is 99% lesbian and 1% ugly heterosexual? Will the fundies ever come to a concensus on this one?

[The Flaming Red Head]

42. Talking about it is probably turning him on

and every man in the congregation. Bet he jacks off after the sermon.

[Vinca]

49. This is a "gotcha," right? He didn't really say that part about

the grease, did he? Holy moley! Lesbian alert. Lesbian alert.:rofl:

[tjdee]

55. Ah, black folks....

It has been my experience that many black folks are homophobic. Will they try to stop them from getting married? No. It's very interesting, in a screwed up kind of way.

Also, it *is* an issue in the black community that black women are making more than black men. It's interesting to me that this minister decided to focus on homosexuality rather than the issues of black men in jail, black single mothers, etc. etc. etc.

:eyes:

[dubyaD40web]

56. WooHoo I'll ask my wife to bring home some of her girlfriends from work

After all those years working a good, high paying job, she has to be tired of hiding in the closet and ready to come out and reveal her secret (hopefully on video). Good thing I'm such a selfless, giving, understanding husband.

[Misunderestimator]

57. Yay! We need more lesbians!!

:rofl: We're TAKING OVER!!! Bwaahaaahaaa

ON EDIT... I just read the last paragraph in your post! OMG!! :rofl:

[Vektor]

59. I'm sorry, but all I can do is laugh out loud.

I know the appalling claims being made here are disturbing and offensive, but this is SO LUDICROUS, that I really can't help but laugh my ass off. It sounds almost like a spoof, not a real sermon.
:rofl:

[Mad_Dem_X]

60. Wow! Can you say

"Unhealthy fixation"????

[neuvocat]

61. Interesting.

I'd like to know if he's talking about the working wives of the men in his congregation. You know, maybe that news article just made an innocent mistake with a typo and that minister actually said that the women were becoming lebanese.

[LibertyLover]

62. Oh Willie, Willie, Willie

Perhaps before you preach your next "sermon" on lesbians, you might want to do a little research. You know, watch a couple of movies - I recommend "But I'm a Cheerleader" - read a book or two. Here's an idea - read the latest research that indicates genetics' responsibility for sexual preference. I'm so relieved to know that you aren't homophobic. It's just that you don't like gays and lesbians.

[Vektor]

63. Why is he referencing lesbians and "the butt" like that's the only way...

...to do it? If a woman is "strapping something on" to do it with another woman, there is a VAGINA available ya know! He continuously makes graphic references to anal sex, like that's the only option two women have. I think he is mixing up his male gay sex fantasies with his female ones.

What a freak.

[Booster]

64. God, these people are ignorant.

[Solly Mack]

65. What a disgusting little person.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

66. "lesbianism is about to take over our community"

-S&B buys one-way ticket to Washington DC-

[sonicx]

72. "lesbianism is about to take over our community"

Bring em on!

[Dr Fate]

74. Is he talking lip-stick lesbians or what?

I mean, I think I can DIG some of his imagery.

[lumpy]

75. "Women falling down on another woman"

Is he refering to the Bush girls (notorious picture of the Bush girls at the frat party)?

[Dr Fate]

76. LOL! I swear that was my first mind-image as well!

But then again, that image involves a self-loathing fantasy of mine from way back. ;)

[progressivebydesign]

78. Please.. tell me he didn't really say that baout the butt grease..

OMG! He said that IN CHURCH? What a bigoted, ignorant, freak! People like that make the think that they;re fighting some feelings of their own deep inside, and that's why the psycho religious act comes out. What a freak.

[leesa]

79. Sounds like he's into hot lesbian sex! Typical.

I am so sick of insecure men who cannot deal with working/emancipated woman. And if he's black, SHAME ON HIM!

[norml]

80. Rev. Willie Wilson has watched too many strap on anal lesbian movies.

I don't go for that strap on anal stuff either, too violent!

[fortyfeetunder]

81. Check out his website...

http://www.uniontemple.com

He also has a live chat forum, but it was closed.

[Coventina]

83. Now THAT'S comedy!

Or it would be, if it weren't for the bigotry.

:-(

[Maestro]

88. I can't stop laughing but wait

yes, I can. This isn't a comedy sketch. OMG! What a freak! This guy has seriously seen too much lesbian porn. I guess I shouldn't tell him that my prom really was a lesbian, and a very good looking one at that!