Eric Rudolph: NON - Christian terrorist

[DFWdem]

Many people on this board seem to have forgotten what Rudolph himself said in writings to his mother.

'I prefer Nietzsche to the Bible'

"Many good people continue to send me money and books," Rudolph writes in an undated letter. "Most of them have, of course, an agenda; mostly born-again Christians looking to save my soul. I suppose the assumption is made that because I'm in here I must be a 'sinner' in need of salvation, and they would be glad to sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking this salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I do appreciate their charity, but I could really do without the condescension. They have been so nice I would hate to break it to them that I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-07-05-rudolph-cover-partone_x.htm

Can we please stop with the false assertion that he is a Christian terrorist?

[spanone]

1. He's just one sicfuk.

[gratuitous]

2. How about "fundamentalist" terrorist?

That sort of groups him with his like-minded philosophical brethren in other parts of the world.

[CottonBear]

4. Bigoted, fundy, sick mo-fo terrorist. n/t

[AllyCat]

8. Pretty pony there CB...

Warmblood? I agree with your canter statement, but OTTB prefers gallop (also very liberating!).

And agree with your comments about the stupid home-bred terrorist

[CottonBear]

45. Thanks! He's Corominio, an Oldenburg stallion and my filly's sire!

He is indeed a warmblood. I believe that the photo is from his 30 day test/stallion approval in Vechta, Germany at the Verband der Züchter des Oldenburger Pferdes e.V.
http://www.oldenburger-pferde.com/frameset.php?lang=en

My filly, Cotton, looks a lot like him! She just turned 2 in on May 4 of this year.

Gallop is good too! I'm not an overly brave rider so I stick to a 2 point canter or a hand gallop! Who is OTTB? Your pony? I see from your profile that you like horses and cats! Me too! I've got one horse and three cats! :)

I live in Georgia and am from NC and I really hate that rat bastard terrorist Eric Rudolph. He says he's not a Christian. I think that he isn't either. No true Christian would bomb people. He is a fundamentalist whack job who has the (unfortunate) support of many others like him.
:scared:
I was at one of the Olympic Dressage competitions the morning after the Olympic Park Bombing. That act of terror really put a black mark on our Olympics. :(

Cheers and Happy Trails! CB

[dhinojosa]

3. Mmmmm. No....

From the same article...


Like the Koran to Muslim terrorists, parts of the Bible have been commandeered by her son to justify the unjustifiable, she says. As she explains, "You can find a scripture in there to suit anything."


Just kidding about the "mmmmmmm. no" I just thought it'd make a funny subject line.

[dhinojosa]

5. By the way, Christians can't read Nietzsche and enjoy it?

even possibly more than the bible? Sounds like he is a well-read Christian and if you have actual proof that he is not christian (agnostic, atheist, muslim, jew, etc) as far as evidence is concerned he still is.

Furthermore I think Christianity is the only religion that gets uptight about abortion, but I may be wrong.

[DFWdem]

7. Also from the article:

Even so, for Eric Rudolph — a man who quoted a Biblical passage on hypocrisy when he pleaded guilty — the choice of Nietzsche over the Gospel is a curious one. Friedrich Nietzsche, the German philosopher, once declared "God is dead."

His mother says she recognizes the intellectual Eric, the son who spent only a few terms in college but loved history. The religious zealot, she says, is a mystery. "A lot of this fundamentalist kind of thinking is a recent thing with him," she says. "I don't know where all this occurred, because it's certainly not from me or from anyone else in the family. I just don't know where all of this came from."


Quoting a biblical passage concerning hypocrisy makes one a Christian? How many non-Christians have said something like "let he who has not sinned cast the first stone"?

Also, why does his mom refer him as a religious zealot? Would a religious zealot subscribe to the notion that "God is dead"? It seems everyone but Rudolph is claiming he's a Christian.

[Modem Butterfly]

9. Eric was a Xian terrorist, but had time to reflect while he was hiding

Certainly blowing up gay people and abortion clinics isn't a very Nietzchian thing to do.

WWND?

[dhinojosa]

13. Huh?

I get some good stuff from the Bible and I am agnostic. Just because I have read the bible doesn't mean I am christian, and it also doesn't mean that I believe Jesus is the son of god.

So inversely, a christian can read Nietzsche and not believe that "God is dead". Plus the article never said that Rudolph believes that "God is dead".

[hexola]

16. Right - so lets pin him to the right with abortion and not religion...

We can lose all the points if Rudolf turns out to have renounced/moved away from Christianity...They say he like to smoke a lot of pot...

Abortion with the innuendo of Christianity should be enough...

One angle - Maybe Rudolf is smart and knows the left will try to disparage Christianity with his actions - to cover - he acts like a lefty..and renounces his faith...

[beam me up scottie]

27. Points ?

This isn't a game. And he is christian.
What the hell does smoking pot have to do with moving away from christianity ?
Righteous people can't get high or they get their righteousness revoked?

[hexola]

32. Points - as in talking points...

For the most part - society would not identify a guy who smokes pot all day as a Christian...

Just look at how much controversy the status of his faith has generated...

I say - aviod it...go for the slam dunk...

Most of society identifys anti-abortion with the right - and those that do violence with the extreme right...case closed.

[DistressedAmerican]

49. Does Your Mom Refer To You As A "Religious Zealot"?

It is the totality of the post that refutes the OP.

One supports the other.

[dhinojosa]

56. My mom died in '98

[DistressedAmerican]

65. Does Not Really Address The Issue. Did She When She Was Alive?

[dhinojosa]

90. Sorry

She wasn't alive when I became agnostic. Can't answer your question, it is irrelevant to me.

On Edit: She only went to 2nd grade and understands English as a second language, I doubt she knew what agnostic meant.

[DistressedAmerican]

97. So you never gave her reason to refer to you that way. Rudolf Did.

That is my point.

[dhinojosa]

98. It seems your anxious to say something.

despite the fact that your point has been irrelevant to me. Ok, for the sake of argument, "My mom is alive and she thinks that I am not religious zealot because I am an agnostic". Ok, so what do you got for me?

[beam me up scottie]

18. wha ?

Reading Nietzsche means you believe god is dead ?
Where did you read that, a fundy pamphlet ?

[DFWdem]

50. Since you're slow I'll spell it out for you

Let's take it in context with what was said:

"Most of them have, of course, an agenda; mostly born-again Christians looking to save my soul. I suppose the assumption is made that because I'm in here I must be a 'sinner' in need of salvation, and they would be glad to sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking this salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I do appreciate their charity, but I could really do without the condescension. They have been so nice I would hate to break it to them that I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible."

Sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I appreciate their charity but could do without the condescension.

Does that sound to you like someone who takes "being saved" or religion seriously?

[Modem Butterfly]

If your argument can't stand without personal attacks...

...it wasn't much of an argument to begin with.

[DFWdem]

69. Touche' Modem

I took offense at his tone and let my emotions leak into the post. He assumes I'm a fundie, which is laughable. I was raised Catholic, although I haven't been a practicing Catholic for over a decade. Ask any fundie for their opinion of Catholics. Thye'll tell you Catholics are going to burn in hell.

[beam me up scottie]

77. And Eric Rudolph was baptized catholic, what a coincidence...

You really do need to brush up on your reading skills.

I said
"Reading Nietzsche means you believe god is dead ?
Where did you read that, a fundy pamphlet ?"

because fundies would say that reading Nietzshe would make you believe god is dead.

I cAn't believe I'm having to explain my posts like I'm talking to child.

And like I give a shit what religion you are, get a grip.

[DFWdem]

80. Ooh, very sly

I get it. He was baptized a catholic, i was baptized a catholic, ergo i am no better than eric rudolph. In fact, I may very well be a mass murdering terrorist. Beam me up Scotty, indeed.

[beam me up scottie]

84. HARK! The cry of the truly persecuted...

[Modem Butterfly]

86. Wow. Talk about a leap of (ill)logic

I call that a radical interpretation of the text!

[DFWdem]

83. So that's not what you implied then?

If one wasn't a fundie, why would he read fundie pamhlets? Okay then, I suppose it was a misunderstanding. And why does my religion matter in this thread? Because obviously if I were a fundie then I'm just blindly trying to find any reason to not make christianity look bad. To the contrary, I was basing my point on the literature I've read and reaching an objective conclusion.

[beam me up scottie]

76. No, actually, it is you that has a reading comprehension problem.

We have shown you proof of his christianity and you don't like it so you continue to give us your pathetic reasoning for not believing it.

It doesn't matter if you don't want him to be a christian, he is.

Just like Hitler was.

Just like bush is.

Deal with it.

Unless god died and left you boss, I don't think you're supposed to be the judge of who is christian and who isn't, are you ?

And insulting other members is against DU rules but understandable if you have nothing else to offer in an intellectual debate.

[DFWdem]

78. Reasoning is a funny thing

If you tell someone their reasoning is pathetic, is that considered an insult? And if so, is that also against the rules? For what it's worth, I consider being called a fundie an insult, so, to take this to a more adult level of discourse: You insulted me first!

I still haven't seen one quote from Rudolph where he identifies himself as a christian. However, I could show you a hundred quotes where Bush refers to himself as a christian.

[charlie]

79. Quote

"I was born a Catholic, and with forgiveness I hope to die one."

http://www.armyofgod.com/EricRudolphStatement.html

[DFWdem]

82. Thanks Charlie

I have not been to the army of god website due to internet filters on my work pc. I will have to check it out later. Of course, one could interpret that to mean "I was born a catholic...... and with forgiveness i hope to die one."

[beam me up scottie]

92. Actually, that's the statement I linked THREE TIMES IN BOTH THREADS.

So, obviously, you didn't read ANY of them.

That is his statement, his words, his faith.

If you would have read it the first time it was posted, you would have realized you were wrong and we could have skipped this little drama of yours.

Are you going to concede ?

If not, that tells me all I need to know about your dog in this fight.

[beam me up scottie]

81. Read my post and show me where I called you a fundie.

Try reading my posts first before you accuse me.

On edit, since you won't read ANYTHING, I'll post it for you:

********
Following is the full text of Eric Rudolph's written statement
The statement marked the first time Eric offered a reason for the attacks.

April 13, 2005

"...I was born a Catholic, and with forgiveness I hope to die one. "



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statement_of_Eric_Rudolph

[Nabia2004]

96. He still sounds like a Christian Terrorist

Obviously not your brand of Christianity. Perhaps his fanaticism is satisfied by being a violent tool for the cause. After all, everyone seems to have their own take on the bible.

"Sell me a ticket to heaven, hawking salvation like peanuts at a ballgame. I appreciate their charity but could do without the condescension."

Does that sound to you like someone who takes "being saved" or religion seriously?

Yes. This fools been doing the work of GOD, he knows he has a place in heaven. In the context of the article he sounds like an arrogant SOB. So righteous that he appreciates "their charity", yet criticizes them for lacking piety in the way the hawk salvation.

[SemperEadem]

25. Rudolph never said "God was dead" That was Nietzsche

Just as he picked and chose from the bible, apparently he picked and chose from Nietzsche, too.

I consider him to be a hypocrit because he should have turned himself in and taken his asswhippin' like a man, instead of running and hiding and rummaging through garbage--since he was so right. He didn't even possess the conviction of his beliefs to face the consequences for having them. He's a punk.

To answer his mother's question: probably the internet.

[CottonBear]

52. He's a self-professed Christian. We all know his philosophy.

Hell, I live here in Georgia. I have friends who were at the park and barely missed being bombed that night. They were far enough away to escape injury.

Anti-abortion, homophobic, xenophobic people = Christian Fundamentalists. Period. End of story.

Next subject please.

[DFWdem]

55. I thought it was....

Anti-abortion, homophobic, xenophobic people = Islamic Fundamentalists. Period. End of Story. Wait a second, I can't say that. That's just as bigoted as your explanation. I apologize :)

[CottonBear]

61. Neither the Koran nor Islamic teachings "outlaw" abortion. n/t

[DFWdem]

70. Nor does the bible

At least, I've never heard of a bible verse that referenced abortion.

[CottonBear]

59. You obviously didn't live through the terror here in GA and AL

and, since you're a man, you've never had to go to a clinic for an abortion. How can you possibly understand how women, clinic workers, policemen, and lesbians/gays feel about this man?

I detest him. I hope that he never sees the light of day again. If there is a hell, well then there's a special place waiting for him there.

[DFWdem]

63. What are you talking about?

At what point did I say anything that might remotely be construed as an exoneration of his actions? My point is that the bomber himself purports not to have done it for religious reasons. I've never ridden a bus in Israel, but I detest people who bomb buses in Jerusalem as much as any other decent person. Eric Rudolph is a piece of garbage. I've never implied anything other than that.

[hexola]

6. How bout "Reproductive Terrorist"

Im not a Christian - but I think abortion sucks and is stupid. No God about it!

BUT - that seems to be Rudolfs main beef and motivation...(seemingly)

So maybe he's NOT a christian - but he fits the mold of Xtian nutjobs that have done violence against abortionists...

So Rudolf and the Right wing have something in common - but its not Jesus...

[comsymp]

19. How does that tie in with bombing the Other Side?

Presumably, not a high percentages of their patrons (matrons?) have abortions....

[hexola]

24. Whats the other side? (nt)

[Modem Butterfly]

28. The nightclub he bombed in Atlanta

The Otherside Lounge catered to women who love women.

[comsymp]

30. Lesbian bar in Atlanta that he bombed

See, if you try to paint his crimes as strictly anti-choice, you're completely blowing off his (presumably religion-based) attacks on the women who were injured there, and (inadverdently, i would assume)minimizing the equally (more?) common fundy nutjob anti-glbt violence.

[hexola]

35. I'll try again here...

"...see, if you try to paint his crimes as strictly anti-choice..."

Im not blowing it off - I'm suggesting a different logical path to the same place...

Anti-abortion, anti-gay, all fit the nutty Christian mindset...no need to split hairs about sects, and letters. His actions define his motivations.

I have no doubt he was Christian - but again I dont see the anti-gay and anti-abortion actions as being that different. They are born of the same mindset...

[comsymp]

37. Same mindset, true... but

your comments upthread seem to suggest focusing exclusively on his anti-choice crimes to the deliberate exclusion of anything else:

Right - so lets pin him to the right with abortion and not religion

Abortion with the innuendo of Christianity should be enough...

Im not a Christian - but I think abortion sucks and is stupid. No God about it!
BUT - that seems to be Rudolfs main beef and motivation...(seemingly)

Apologies if I've misread / misinterpreted~

[hexola]

46. I see the abortion bombings as his "definitive act"

I wasnt trying to downplay the other bombings...

Abortion has been the Right's core issue for 30 years...I think they are completely identified with anti-abortion...the empahsis on anti-gay is somewhat new.

Also - bear in mind that the anti-gay issue has tentacles in the white supremacy world, the straight world, the redneck world...it's not percieved as totally a Chirstian issue, like abortion. It works, but not as well.

I think the point of the "Rudolf as terrorist" threads is to drive home the idea that: - There are extremists on both sides of the Iraq war...if we can come to grips with, and start to understand our own extremists - we can come closer to undertanding the other side's extremists. And ending this mess...

And sure - there are some political points to be scored along the way by trying to paint the right wing as the "US Taliban"

[Modem Butterfly]

51. I think that depends on your perspective

I'm from Atlanta. We call Rudolph "The Olympic Park Bomber", even though he also bombed an abortion clinic and a lesbian bar.

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[LoZoccolo]

11. I don't think I understood your comment.

Could you elaborate?

[Hidden Stillness]

17. Response--I am Trying to Get Males to Face the Larger Picture

Referring to studies done by NOW, criminal profiles based on interviews of anti-abortion, etc., attackers, murders of adortion doctors, etc., that there is always a background of abuse and other violence against women among male "fundamentalists," who do not meanwhile, demonstrate any knowledge of the Bible (recalling also Santorum's recent remark, "I've never actually read it," I believe that was the wording). I am referring also to the general atmosphere of violence, abuse and hate among anti-religious capitalist media "culture," and as a Christian, liberal feminst woman, I am tired of it being attached to my group when women well know the violence of males who are not stopped but justified by other males.

[Modem Butterfly]

20. There have been plenty acts of terrorism against choice by females

Males do not have the corner on this "market" by any means. And there have been many female enablers of acts of terrorism directed at clinics. Trying to place the burden of this problem on men is sexism in its purest form.

Moreover, what the hell is anti-religious capitalist media culture?

[redqueen]

33. "anti-religious capitalist media culture"

I don't know what it is, but it sounds like rightwing crap.

[tishaLA]

58. Yup

[hexola]

21. Did Santorum do violence against someone?

What group is being attacked?

Women or Chistians...?

How are we justifying violece?

[mondo joe]

34. That's funny - I'm tired of the pro-Christian capitalist political machine

and I am tired of those who justify it.

[Modem Butterfly]

14. Which pricks on this website might that be?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

[CottonBear]

64. Good question MB. I was just about to pose that question. n/t

[Walt Starr]

12. Member of Christian Identity n/t

[beam me up scottie]

15. That is NOT TRUE, Eric Rudolph WAS AND IS A CHRISTIAN

http://www.armyofgod.com/EricRudolphStatement.html

http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/crime/terrorists/eric...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph

Can we please stop with the false assertion that he's not a christian terrorist ?

[redqueen]

23. Fundies are batshit crazy...

First he's spouting christian nonsense, then he's saying he prefers other works to the bible.

Fucking idiot... a real nihilist wouldn't give a shit about abortion clinics.

How many dumbasses believe the kind of crap in the OP, anyway?

Are their memories REALLY that short?

[Walt Starr]

26. He's doing it now because he's a confessed mass murderer

Trying to distance himself from his movement.

[redqueen]

31. I get that... but why is this bullshit being posted *here*

as if it were the *truth*?

That's what I don't get. x(

[Walt Starr]

38. Oh I get it.

I get it ALL TOO WELL!

;)

[beam me up scottie]

29. Did you see his website ?

It's a f*cking shrine. The army of god worship him.

[DFWdem]

39. So where's the part that says he's a Christian?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph

"In the summer of 1996, the world converged upon Atlanta for the Olympic Games. Under the protection and auspices of the regime in Washington millions of people came to celebrate the ideals of global socialism. Multinational corporations spent billions of dollars, and Washington organized an army of security to protect these best of all games. Even though the conception and purpose of the so-called Olympic movement is to promote the values of global socialism, as perfectly expressed in the song "Imagine" by John Lennon, which was the theme of the 1996 Games even though the purpose of the Olympics is to promote these despicable ideals, the purpose of the attack on July 27 was to confound, anger and embarrass the Washington government in the eyes of the world for its abominable sanctioning of abortion on demand.

The plan was to force the cancellation of the Games, or at least create a state of insecurity to empty the streets around the venues and thereby eat into the vast amounts of money invested."

Okay, so far we know he was angered by what he perceived to be a movement towards global socialism and abortion on demand. Let's read more:

"It has been alleged that Rudolph is an adherent of the extremist group Christian Identity, a sect that holds that white Christians are God's chosen people, and that others will be condemned to Hell. However, in a statement released after he entered a guilty plea, Rudolph denied being a supporter of that movement, claiming that his involvement amounted to a brief association with the daughter of a Christian Identity adherent. In one of the over 200 undated letters provided to USA Today by Rudolph's mother, Rudolph states that, "I really prefer Nietzsche to the Bible." <1>

It's been alleged by people other than Rudolph. Rudolph denies it, then goes on to say his involvement with the group amounted to a brief association with the daughter of a man who was a Christian Identity adherent.

So if I date the daughter of a Baptist preacher, does that make me an adherent to the Baptist faith?

[tishaLA]

62. You realize anyone can write anything on Wikipedia, no?

And that the entry has been changed as recently as 2.45 today? Heck, it could have been you who put in that Nietzsche line for all I know.

Grain. Of. Salt.

He was a christian terrorist.

[DFWdem]

67. Actually, no, I don't

Or, I didn't realize it until you just told me. That's pretty interesting. I assumed wikipedia was an online encyclopedia in the vein of the World Book encyclopedia or Brittanica.

[hexola]

68. Who cares if he was...?

So if I date the daughter of a Baptist preacher, does that make me an adherent to the Baptist faith?

Clearly - no...but it doesnt automatically mean you are the opposite...or dont share common beliefs...

Rudolf was an anti-abortion nut...if he get associated with the Anti-abortion Xtians...he asked for it.

...was angered by what he perceived to be a movement towards global socialism and abortion on demand...

Sound familiar? Common motivations - politics makes strange bedfellows...

[DFWdem]

75. I agree

Just because one holds some common beliefs with others does not mean that they are automatically representative of that group. For all we know Rudolph hated abortion but also hated having "under God" in the pledge of allegiance or "in God we trust" on currency.

[beam me up scottie]

93. Really stretching, aren't you ?

He's a christian.

Read his statement.

Then read it again.

Deal.

And maybe you'll learn to do your homework before you start a thread based on a false assumption.

[slackmaster]

60. I call him a "degenerate Christian"

:nuke:

[beam me up scottie]

22. You know, this isn't the first time

we've provided you with proof that he is christian.

So why did you feel it necessary to start another thread propagating the same misinformation ?

Are you going to start another one after you leave this one ?

You know, saying the same thing over and over does not make it true, just ask the chimperor.

[DFWdem]

40. I agree wholeheartedly

Saying he's a christian over and over doesn't make it true. Did you even bother to read your wikipedia link? It's obvious you can't break free of your christophobic paradigm and evaluate information objectively. Where is the proof that he's christian? The army of god likes him, so that makes him a christian?

[Modem Butterfly]

41. Christophobic Paradigm?

:rofl:

Man, that's a keeper.

[DFWdem]

42. Thank you Modem

I actually chuckled a little bit as i wrote it. I was being a little facetious, but you must admit that it sounds catchy :)

[Modem Butterfly]

43. Yeah, the righties have been using that one for awhile now

Christophobia- the fear of a dead man.

:rofl:

[DFWdem]

44. Have they?

Crap, I thought I'd compe up with a new phrase. But have they combined "christophobia" with "paradigm"? I think I might still be on to something.

[Walt Starr]

53. Yup, I've read the precisely identical wording on at least four different

rightwingnut moonbat sites.

[redqueen]

54. Very interesting....

:crazy:

[DFWdem]

57. Be careful over there

That stuff'll rot your brain. For the record, I'm Catholic, so fundies think I'm screwed too. Catholic elementary and junior high, altar boy, the whole nine yards. Of course, nowadays my mom says I should go to church more often. My opinion is that I did my time and got in enough Catholicism in my youth to last me a long time.

[Walt Starr]

66. Doesn't matter. "Christophobia" is a term they use all the time

just like you did.

Tells me all I need to know.

[DFWdem]

74. Well, that's too bad

From your posts I've read, I find you to be a reasonable and intelligent man who doesn't take things at face value. It's a shame you won't look past a little tongue-in-cheek linguistic humor in order to have a dialogue. Perhaps if you knew my style better you wouldn't take it as gospel (pun intended). Oh well, what's that saying: "Never explain yourself; your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe you anyway."

[Walt Starr]

85. Using a term like that says it all

Sorry if the truth hurts, but that doesn't alter the truth.

[DFWdem]

87. If that says it all...

What does it mean if one uses the terms "Islamophobe", "Xenophobe", or "Homophobe"? Are they automatically progressive?

[beam me up scottie]

94. Obviously your "style" isn't really yours.

It's a factory knock off.
Why am I not surprised?
:eyes:

Although, the kissing of Walt's ass seemed genuine. :rofl:

[beam me up scottie]

95. Christophobic ? How original.

Yawn. :boring:

Why don't you trot on over to freeperville and check out his christian fan club ?

You might even speak the language, I believe that's where the word "christophobic" originated.

[jonnyblitz]

48. i would like to know WHO decides WHO is a "true" christian..

if you go by who follows the teachings of xianity from the "good book" more literally i would say the fundies are the true xians you would think...:shrug:

[me b zola]

36. Bad, bad extremist christian fundamentalist terrorist

for preferring to read Nietzsche to the bible :spank:

[anarch]

47. well, here you go: ALL TERRORISTS = Not Religious People

If they say they are, they are liars. "Religion" is about making a sacred connection between humanity and whatever you want to call the "larger world" -- God, Spirit, What-have-you...this does not, by definition, include killing people.

but this is all semantics. I'm sure those asswipes in the Taliban consider themselves the epitome of religious adherents, as did the Christian Crusaders who wreaked havoc all across middle east a thousand years ago, as do the people terrorizing women at abortion clinics, as does the KKK, etc. Religion has got to be the most sorely abused concept on the planet.

[MattSWin]

71. I'm not sure he was driven by Christianity...

Or any religion at all. He was driven by his own paranoia, hate, and obsession of eliminating people he thought were destroying America.

[ikojo]

72. I thought he was raised in the Christian

Identity faith.

[ck4829]

73. Then that proves it

I'm willing to bet that a fair share of people say "Eric Rudolph is as 'Christian' as Osama bin Laden is 'Muslim'", now it's been proven.

:)

[noamnety]

88. When he stops being Catholic

We'll stop calling him Christian.

[TWiley]

89. I would but he IS a Christian Terrorist.

and a fundamentalist to boot.

[indypaul]

91. Why all the exercise over

this POS. Once he meets "Bubba" it won't matter
what philosophical or biblical quotes he uses.
With the chip he has on his shoulder I'm sure
his incarceration will be one very unpleasant
situation for him.