Jose Padilla Imprisoned 3 Years 72 Days No Trial No Charges

[sintax]

US Citizen

[enough]

1. Thanks for the reminder.

[dogday]

2. Proud to be an American where at least I know I 'm free-uh wait

a moment, that's not right......:sarcasm:

[gratuitous]

3. And Eric Rudolph pled out to avoid a death penalty

The advantages of being a white fundamentalist terrorist are plain to see.

[RaleighNCDUer]

4. Well, you know

actually blowing up people in the name of Jesus is just a crime.

Thinking about blowing up people in the name of Allah is terrorism.

See the difference?

[Mnemosyne]

12. One of the best distinctions I've ever heard! Thanks! n/t

[wli]

5. welcome to Bush's new "justice system"

Soon enough he'll have the gall to call anyone in the US who dares to question the neocons' criminality a "terrorist" and imprison them en masse in death camps.

I guess my skin would make a good lampshade and my hair decent fabric, but I had higher aspirations long ago.

[K-W]

6. What a disgrace. nt

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. rec'd

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

8. rec'd n/t

[stopbush]

9. They hate us for our freedoms!!! n/t

[Maat]

10. As a recent law graduate ..

this frustrates the * out of me.

What a complete pissing on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

Stunning!

[Talismom]

11. It's just disgusting!!! n/t

:argh:

[bvar22]

13. I consider this Constitutional Violation a "High Crime",

and a blatant violation of the "Oath of Office".

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

14. NPR's All Things Considered is

doing a story on Padilla this afternoon.

It will be available on their website tonight:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4761263

Edited to add link to story

[gordianot]

15. Habeas Corpus indeed!

Only the Bush administration could garner sympathy for someone who may be a terrorist. Then you start asking why he is being held, where is the evidence? Innocent until proven guilty indeed! Guess my 8th grade Civics teacher lied when I was first introduced to the Constitution.

What would George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, James Monroe, Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams have to say?

[helderheid]

16. It must feel like an eternity for him

This is so outrageous and scary.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. He could be held another 20 years

And you won't hear peep one from the so-called defenders of freedom.

No charges. No indictment. No presentation of evidence. No opportunity to face one's accusers. No trial by a jury of one's peers.

Just plain old arbitrary power and the divine right of King (George) to determine who may walk the land and who may be held indefinitely. No love for Mr. Padilla, but this is outrageous. We have a deal with any governing body: you demonstrate guilt of some established offense by reasonable and objectively established procedures of jurisprudence, and we give you the power to deprive human beings of their inherent liberty. If you cannot so demonstrate, you have no right to enforce such deprivation. That is the very founding principle of this nation and - indeed - the modern world. And it is publically flaunted by these despots and the supposed great patriots of this country do nothing. Nothing. And because of the framing of the issue, anyone who speaks up on behalf of Mr. Padilla is accused of hating the United States! When in fact, it is those who conspire to hold him or ANY HUMAN BEING in absence of demonstrated culpability who hate the principles of this nation. The world turned upside down.

[REACTIVATED IN CT]

18. Arguments were heard in court today

in VA. Good quote from one of Padilla's lawyers " I must be the only criminal lawyer ever to beg the court to 'Please indict my client'"

[sweetheart]

19. My sincere apologies Mr. Padilla...

for when you do not have your constitutional rights, none of us have
them, and presuming you innocent as is your human right without a
charge or trial, it is deeply regretful what has been done to you.

I'm sorry, and i hope you forgive and forget after you've exercised
your second amendment right to get even. I would acquit him, were i
on a jury if he took out the republican party.... as he has every right
to defend the constitution from criminals who usurp it... even if
he is the only one left fighting for our rights.

Mr. Padilla, whatever you've done in the past is irrelevant. You are
a public figure now, a man who, were he inspired, could run for congress
and shake up the whole system by being justly pissed off at abuses of
our constitution.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. And CNN flashed this for oh a second

on teh bright side it could and they wish, it were, any of us... we are enemy combatants because we believe in this thing called teh Republic

[Zen]

21. Where are my "freedom fries" from my liberty is everything RW pals???

Where are the RW groups now who would fight to the death before letting the goverenment interfere in their lives?

Where did they go?

Where are they?

Hypocrites.

[Disturbed]

22. A damned travesty!

Is this the example of Democracy that Amerika is sending to the world. In the meantime we have a Prez. who is violating the Law and spouting shit about spreading freedom.

[Zen]

24. Dumbya need a load of freedom fries inserted where the sun dont' shine

These people aren't small government out of my business conservatives, they are friggin' Nazi's...

[MetaTrope]

23. At least give him a cell in Terre Haute next to Leonard Peltier

:shrug:

[QuettaKid]

25. kick. nt.

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[The Stranger]

26. An opinion Roberts joined would make it held for life with no charge.

That is why he was chosen. Not for the abortion question.

http://slate.msn.com/id/2123055

Roberts may indeed turn out to be a wise, thoughtful, and appealing justice. Tonight when Bush announced his nomination, Roberts talked about feeling humbled, which won him points on TV. But an opinion that the 50-year-old judge joined just last week in the case Hamdan v. Rumsfeld should be seriously troubling to anyone who values civil liberties. As a member of a three-judge panel on the D.C. federal court of appeals, Roberts signed on to a blank-check grant of power to the Bush administration to try suspected terrorists without basic due-process protections.