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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:26 PM
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The Vote is still 5-4 on Roe being upheld.
Even with the Dread Judge Roberts.

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:28 PM
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1. Kennedy's the swing vote
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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:29 PM
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2. Kennedy is the new O'Connor
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:46 PM
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10. Kennedy was O'Connor this past term anyway
O'Connor actually found herself dissenting on several major decisions, while Kennedy found himself writing several opinions this term.
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Mitt Chovick Donating Member (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 09:55 PM
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11. On both eminent domain and medical marijuana
You are correct. It was Kennedy in the majority.

Funny that lots of us DUers agreed with the dissenters - O'Connor, Scalia, Thomas, and Renquist on both of these.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:37 PM
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4. Kennedy supports Roe in theory but not in practice
he won't vote to actually overturn Roe but will happily vote to uphold each and every attempt to whittle away at it: restricting late-term (please don't call it "partial-birth") abortion; restricting minors' access to abortion through parental notification; onerous waiting periods involving two trips to the clinic (which, in rural areas, is generally miles away, much farther than, say, Wal-Mart).

So, within a year or two, Roe will effectively read, "Women shall have the right to an abortion except on days ending in 'y'." And all without a single headline screaming "ROE OVERTURNED", which might be the last thing that could get masses of people in the streets.
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wakemeupwhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:41 PM
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16. absolutely.
They've been chipping away at Roe v Wade for years. Clinics have to have hallways x number of feet wide, ambulances on duty 24/7, etc. Lots of little digs particularly in red states. Even some blue states have been able to ding away at it.

What I see them doing is restricting abortion access until only wealthy, or at least well-off women, will be able to afford them. They stand less chance of Repub women running screaming from the party.

No screaming headlines, no outrage from poorer women (who cares what they think? :sarcasm:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:30 PM
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3. KKKarl Rove is still working on getting the medical doctors.....
...who are treating Rehnquist's thyroid cancer to use placebos in his chemo-therapy.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:40 PM
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5. Rehnquist's departure won't change the balance of the court...
..given that he's always on the 'other' side'.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:41 PM
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6. Nope. That's BS.
I do NOT believe this!

The FIRST thing Roberts plans to do is overturn Roe vs Wade. :mad:

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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 08:40 PM
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9. Believe what you want, the vote is still 5-4.
In favor- Stevens, Ginsburg, Breyer, Souter, Kennedy.

Opposed- Scalia, Rehnquist, Thomas, Roberts (if confirmed)


Note: Kennedy and Rehnquist votes are not 100% assured on either side. Though, most court scholars highly doubt Kennedy would vote against Roe V Wade if it were to come back up in docket.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 11:41 PM
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12. Not for long...
You trust them?

How about your property rights?

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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:32 PM
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13. If Stevens retires or dies we are up the creek
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:43 PM
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7. Deleted. Wrong answer.
Edited on Tue Jul-19-05 08:15 PM by Connie_Corleone
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Rufus T. Firefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-19-05 07:57 PM
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8. A case still has to get to the Supreme Court.
And that takes quite some time. We still have hope.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:35 PM
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14. as they take cases that whittle around access.....
If you can't overturn the big one, start
with the ones that chew the legs off it.

and that's what they've done. next case
is parental consent.

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RedSpartan Donating Member (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:36 PM
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15. Princess Bride Reference...
Priceless.
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