Bush has a new facial tick. Flicks his jaw to his left after every "point"

[DS1]

or sentence.

It's new. Probably fell down again.

[laruemtt]

1. TMJ? trying to look like

a rough and rugged hombre from the ranch?

[leftofthedial]

2. a sign of lying

a "tell"

[DS1]

3. Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

The guy is 50 or 52, Bush wants his legacy -damage- to be around a very long long time

[bocceballs]

4. You Are Correct,

You are correct, I'm watching him do it as I type this.

He also just spoke of Judge Robert's many "accomplishment".

Apparently, Judge Roberts has sever limitations.

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

5. Good God, You're right!

What a strange little being he is.

[deminks]

6. I see this, too.

I wonder if it is increased nervousness? :evilgrin:

[patrice]

7. I noticed that recently, didn't know it was new, because I almost never

watch him.

And then there's still what's left of the smirk, which seems to say, "Hey, get how clever what I just said was!"

[Zen Democrat]

8. Oh, you're right. That's freaky.

[flordehinojos]

9. i think that'been there for a while ... it may be more noticeable now ...

i've wondered if it is a side effect to some psychotropic medication.

[linazelle]

10. Who are you people? nt

[jenmito]

33. I'm Jenmito.

And I've been watching his "jaw shuffle" for many months now. What IS that? It ain't normal-that's for sure!

[blm]

11. I've seen that tic since the 2000 campaign. Alot of coke-addicts have that

same tic. It's a very creepy jaw thing.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

14. Are You Accusing Shrub Of Current Coke Use Or Prior Use?

[blm]

21. He's had it a long time, as far as I know. The last anyone has reported

Bush doing coke was 93. So, maybe it's just an uncontrollable facial tic by now.

[librechik]

23. no man, he was sharp, responsive, and no sign of linguistic dysphasia

(except for the phony Texas accent) back in 2000. All the severe neuro symptoms have appeared since 9/11. Check it out sometime; watch an old interview, if you can stand it sometime. He could string thoughts and sentences together, crisp pronunciation, no slurring...he's a different man nowadays.

[blm]

30. I specifically asked a newsman about the tic back when Bush ran in 2000.

I was trying to prompt greater scrutiny into his real record of drug abuse so I'm certain he's had it since then.

I think you're referring to his physical appearance during the 94 debate with Ann Richards.

His tic may be more prominent the more fraudulent he feels. Human nature.

[librechik]

36. yes, precisely--Sapphire Blue posted video of this below

"striking decline in sentence by sentence speaking ability"

Hard to imagine what else could have caused this.

Bushies are above the law, I guess.

[Sapphire Blue]

31. Here's a comparison... The 10 Year Difference

George Bush - The Ten Year Difference (QuickTime Video): http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz/BushTenYears.mov

Bushbuzz: http://www.adbuzz.com/bushbuzz.htm

[librechik]

35. thx for those links , Sapphire

exactly what I was talking about

[Dr Fate]

29. Bush basically admitted to prior coke abuse, in a lying sort of way.

Remember- he would never answer the question straight like Kerry or Gore did, but he said somthing like:

"I could pass a FBI drug test when my dad was president."

What he "forgot" to tell us is that there are various degrees of FBI drug tests and which one he could have supposedly passed.

[blm]

37. heheh....he doesn't KNOW any other way.

.

[bocceballs]

17. Can it be ? Ahhhhhhh

He's breaking down ! Bush is an android ! There's a screw loose in his jaw. He's not real, I knew it!

He's gonna' go after people like Yul Brynner did in that movie Westworld !

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

20. He's Ash From Alien

And when he says...

"You can't kill it! It's a perfect organism."

He's talking about Rove.

[Blue_In_AK]

46. My thought, too....

My post below.

[Sannum]

12. Tics like that are a sign of cocaine use.

i'm just sayin....

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

13. Think This Will Be On Daily Show Tonight?

I'm not watching right now, on purpose.

[DS1]

16. No, Daily Show like most late-night is recorded in afternoon

For editing purposes

[SeveneightyWhoa]

15. Seems like nervousness to me..

Why is a president so nervous in front of a camera, almost 5 years into his presidency? Seems like everything's really getting to him..

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

18. Not Good Enough

I'm not watching, but so far as I'm concerned, nothing short of a hemmorage on Live tv would make me happy. Not that I wish any harm to come to our fearless leader. <sarcasm off>

[SeveneightyWhoa]

41. self-deleted

.

[Hubert Flottz]

19. Paging Doktor Theo Morell

Time for the next injection Herr Doktor?

[DemonFighterLives]

38. My thoughts as well

It really reminds me of a coke tic though. I have seen some crackheads who went fishy faced when they were high.

Here is from June:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3804222

History channel has a show on "High Hitler". Dr. Morel, the quack gave Adolph injections of a "cocktail" of obscure medicines. Did he create the freak?
He injected him with ground up bulls testicles and thirty or so other things.
Maybe this is why w was trying to milk the male horse.

[Hubert Flottz]

49. Nobody can be that stupid, without outside help of some kind!

I'd been watching for the twitching face and quivering arm to show up! I'd suspected all along it had to happen. We already have the GOP scorched Earth policies in place in case the bottom drops out! If the neocons cartel goes down they want to make sure and drag the whole country with them, like the hard right wing NSDAP or 'National Socialist German Workers Party' once did. Hitler threw the word "Socialist" into the paty's name to trick the German people, the way the neocons use superstition, deception and fear(propaganda)to trick and "herd" the American people today. I think they intend to herd us over the cliff.

PR = SPIN = Propaganda ("The more things change, the more things stay the same")

Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/

on Propaganda.

http://www.hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv2ch11.html

Ivy Ledbetter Lee

Ivy Ledbetter Lee has long been acclaimed as an early practitioner, perhaps even as the originator, of the explanatory approach to public relations. After graduating from Princeton, he began working as a newspaper reporter in the late 1890s but turned to public relations shortly after the turn of the century and became one of the defining figures of the fledgling profession. He not only practiced public relations, he aggressively explained its purpose and defended its actions. In doing so he helped shape the public perceptions of the field and set standards other practitioners felt compelled to meet.

http://www.nku.edu/~turney/prclass/readings/3eras2x.html

PUBLIC RELATIONS HISTORY("Managing The Human Herd")

snip>
The public information era of public relations saw the founding of many agencies and departments whose purpose was to provide the public with accurate, timely, honest, and favorable information about an organization or client.

A pivotal figure in this era was Ivy Ledbetter Lee, known as the first public relations practitioner. Among his contributions to the field was his "Declaration of Principles," which called for honest communication with the public on behalf of a client.

snip>

During the middle and latter parts of the 20th Century, much of public relations activity, both research and practice, was built on the advocacy model, in which organizations tried to influence the attitudes and behaviors of their publics. Much of the communication research was related to the war-time interest in propaganda, brainwashing and social manipulation. In the post-war era, many researchers and practitioners continued to explore their interests in persuasive communication.

http://faculty.buffalostate.edu/smithrd/PR/history.htm


Media Control

http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/talks/9103-media-control.html

Why Some PR Professionals Are Furious with the Bush Administration

George W. Bush earned an MBA from Harvard University. He then ran several organizations and sat on the boards of directors of others before becoming the nation’s chief executive. With decades of management experience, it is reasonable to expect that along the way Bush would have learned the value of public relations and a little about the ethical questions central to the field.

Instead, over the course of about a week, several investigations revealed that the administration either directly paid or secretly funneled money through outside PR firms to a handful of conservative pundit/journalists in return for favorable commentary on policies the president supports. In one fell swoop, the Bush administration sullied the entire public relations profession and dragged the field down into the ranks of the Enrons, Worldcoms, and Tycos of the world.

http://hnn.us/articles/10144.html

(An excellent presentation)

Timeline of Treason:
The Bush Family Connections to the Nazis

John D. Rockefeller issues "Occasional Letter No.1" detailing plans to mold the people, reduce national intelligence to the lowest common denominator, destroy parental influence, traditional and customs, and eliminate science and real learning, "in order to perfect human nature".

Eugenics laboratory established at Cold Springs Harbor on Long Island constructed by Charles B. Davenport. Cold Springs Harbor was also the location of the estates of both Dulles brothers. Cold Springs facility is funded in excess of $11 million by the Harrimans and the Rockefellers.

1907:Samuel Bush elected President of Buckeye Steel Castings Co. in Columbus, Ohio. For his entire career, Samuel Bush supplied Wall Street railroads with castings. Later Bush became a close advisor of President Hoover and was the first president of the National Manufactures Association. (NAM). NAM has a history of supporting fascism and later in the 1950s, members of NAM led by Robert Welch formed the John Birch Society. MORE...

http://www.country-liberal-party.com/pages/Bush-Nazi-links.htm

[DemonFighterLives]

50. Wow, a lot of stuff there Hubert

Have you made another thread with it all?

I agree that this regime is prepared to try to take the whole country down, but would probably rather keep it working to tap off the wealth. Greed and Power are their prime motivators.

[Hubert Flottz]

52. I've posted most of it before, but you're welcome to post it...

again if you'd like. The American people need to know how they are being played like a cheap fiddle, by the shysters in Texas, Washinton and NYC.

The Bush KKKlan wanted to steal a pile of social security money, by investing it and crashing the stock market again, but I guess that plan is on the back burner for now. What I find odd is the fact that nobody found it odd, how the stock market boomed all the time Clinton was in office, but how it started to plunge just when the 2,000 campaign began. Not only did the fat cat oil bankers and guys like Allan Greedspin hit the trifecta, but they blamed the crashing market on Clinton and Gore.

Allan greedspin kept the interest rates sky high all the time Clinton was president, but as soon as Bush stole the election in 2000, the interest rate bottomed out and that was the only bright spot in Bush's "Economy" for months, while the market bounced back. Of course we all know that Bush scratched Greedspins back in return, by letting Allan keep his job.

The greedy and the powerful will soon own 100% of the country, with Bush and his neocon gangsters robbing, stealing and cheating without fear of law and order. The GOP now controls all three branches of the federal government, the military, the free press, the stock market and the Federal Reserve.

If there's a slim chance that our country can still be recovered by the people, we'd better start the process pretty soon, or that last slim chance will slip away forever. If the democrats and the republicans in congress, who are still loyal to the United States of America, don't stand up to the neocons soon, the party's over for democracy in America and in rest of the world too for that matter.

America needs more than ever before, real leaders, to come to the front ranks and lead, in a battle to get us back on the right track, whatever it takes. With each passing day conditions continue to further erode, as the neo-fascist death grip tightens on our throats. Now is no time, for our leaders to turn coward too, like Bush did once. Our soldiers fight for their country, but our politicians do not have the guts, or so it seems up to this point.

I keep thinking about the words to the song 'Golden Country' by REO Speedwagon.

Golden country your face is so red
With all of your money your poor can be fed
You strut around and you flirt with disaster
Never really carin' just what comes after
Well your blacks are dyin' but your back is still turned
And your freaks are cryin' but your back is still turned
You better stop your hidin or your country will burn
The time has come for you my friend
To all this ugliness we must put an end
Before we leave we must make a stand More...

http://www.nomorelyrics.net/song/122602.html

[DemonFighterLives]

53. Oh man so much good stuff will go unnoticed here

I saw REO with Styx and Journey and Reo stole the show. Kevin Cronin is such a showman. Great song.

I hope the Golden Country can survive!

[bullwinkle428]

22. i NOTICED IT TOO!!!

It seems to be some kind of horizontal twitch of his lower jaw, after each comma or period...

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

24. Google...

Tardive Dyskenesia.

[DS1]

26. Once again, TS nails it

From emedicine

chewing, sucking, puckering, tongue writhing, jaw opening, jaw closing, grimacing, excessive blinking and brow wrinkling, brow wrinkling,

[kestrel91316]

43. that's what you get from antipsychotic meds, FYI

Serious sh-- going on with this guy and inside his sick head.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

47. Exactly my point.

And not mild meds for mild conditions, either. You get TD from the serious meds used for the most serious diseases.

[kestrel91316]

55. Yep, stuff like SCHIZOPHRENIA

[TahitiNut]

58. Yep. But we've pretty well established he's been on meds all along.

At least one of the meds is a beta blocker. The Chimperor is headed for a meltdown, for sure.

[Zen Democrat]

25. Cocaine addicts have that same jaw tic.

It's a tell-tale sign that anyone who has ever been around cokeheads will recognize.

[A Brand New World]

27. He started that back during the debates last fall. I noticed it then.

I've heard and read that it's a sign of cocaine usage. Although tonight I think he was also drunker than a skunk. I just watched a little bit (maybe 2 minutes), then I couldn't stand it any longer.

[Maiden England]

51. I bet he's not drunk. Its the side effects of strong antipsychotics

Thats goes with the tardive dyskinesia. A lot of psychiatric meds give you the appearance of being blitzed too, especially the stronger ones.

[Dr Fate]

28. I know this occurs after long-time cocaine abuse.

Like Brian Wilson- it's a mild cocaine aneurysm(sp?).

[goclark]

39. Do you think he STILL is taking cocaine

or is this something that can happen years later?

IMO,he is still on something!

I don't know what but he is a walking time bomb.

[Dr Fate]

40. He does pills now. Republicans like pills.

I doubt he has done blow since being prez.

[Caoimhe]

32. His handlers told him to

stop smirking, so he tried a new approach. He isn't real deep folks.

[Ilsa]

34. I didn't watch. Maybe it's tardive dyskinesia.

Maybe he's got too much antipsychotic in his system. TD might also affect his balance if he's having a jerk or tic when cycling.

(My oldest son has one right now, but it is right side.

[SeveneightyWhoa]

42. It's not cocaine.

My friend, who's never done cocaine, used to have THE EXACT SAME FACIAL TIC. Watching Bush, I felt like I was watching my friend in a nervous situation, years ago.

It's just a visible sign of being uncomfortable, as Bush surely is whenever he steps out in public. As much of a bubble president as he is, he knows the majority of the world and at least 60% of Americans hate his guts.

[VOX]

44. Is he trying to emulate the St. Reagan "head wobble?"

Remember Ronnie's trademark head-wobble that would frequently punctuate his sentences?

Remember Pete Wilson in CA? He developed that head-wobble thing in an attempt to come off like St. Ronnie. :crazy:

[Blue_In_AK]

45. Coke jaw... n/t

[mopaul]

48. it's pretty glaring

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4135300&mesg_id=4135300

[helderheid]

54. Randi Rhodes said today it looked just like a coke head

[Bullwinkle925]

56. I just watched the video. I heard Randi Rhodes talking about it on her

show. I can't remember noticing it before. Perhaps it's the 'strain' the WH is undergoing right now? I don't know anyone who does coke, so I can't say. Hmmmmm.

[iconoclastNYC]

57. Can strokes harm your mental capacity to accurate form sentaces?

In a selective way, like the stroke just affected the speech area?

These facial ticks and the falls could be evidence of strokes. What about the loss of his verbal ability. Compare the text governor debate versus the kerry debates. he seems like he's half senile in the kerry debates compared to the earlier debates.

[orleans]

59. the coke thing

is it when you're doing coke (currently) or can it be from past coke use?