Check out what is A01 in tomorrow's WP! Not so good for Mr. Rove...

[sabra]

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/20/AR2005072002517_pf.html

Plame's Identity Marked As Secret
Memo Central to Probe Of Leak Was Written By State Dept. Analyst

By Walter Pincus and Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, July 21, 2005; A01



A classified State Department memorandum central to a federal leak investigation contained information about CIA officer Valerie Plame in a paragraph marked "(S)" for secret, a clear indication that any Bush administration official who read it should have been aware the information was classified, according to current and former government officials.

Plame -- who is referred to by her married name, Valerie Wilson, in the memo -- is mentioned in the second paragraph of the three-page document, which was written on June 10, 2003, by an analyst in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research (INR), according to a source who described the memo to The Washington Post.

The paragraph identifying her as the wife of former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV was clearly marked to show that it contained classified material at the "secret" level, two sources said. The CIA classifies as "secret" the names of officers whose identities are covert, according to former senior agency officials.

Anyone reading that paragraph should have been aware that it contained secret information, though that designation was not specifically attached to Plame's name and did not describe her status as covert, the sources said. It is a federal crime, punishable by up to 10 years in prison, for a federal official to knowingly disclose the identity of a covert CIA official if the person knows the government is trying to keep it secret.

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[bonzotex]

1. Sweet....one more nail in the coffin! n/t

[tulsakatz]

26. memo

I heard about this memo in the NY Times........I think it was last week sometime. But this article gives more info about what was actually in the memo!!

It's nice to know the Post is still doing a great job! Thanks for the article.

[Carla in Ca]

40. And on page A01. Well, well

Now, that is good news!:-)

[Pachamama]

57. Guess the Roberts' nom isn't doing much to knock the Rove story out of the

news....

:bounce:

[Carla in Ca]

64. Yeah, and waiting until the 27th to announce it

would require too much thinking! OUCH!

[ClusterFreak]

2. Eeeeeeeexcellent!!

:evilgrin:

[Justice]

3. Luskin claims Rove didn't know about memo until interviewed

so this is interesting. Wonder if Luskin will have to backtrack yet again.

[Pithy Cherub]

18. Goes to what were the intentions.

Luskin got out in front of the evidence without the facts or despite them...
Tsk. tsk, tsk, my * pity implant didn't take...

Proveable intentions under the law really are going to give this "dignified" White House legal black eyes.
:popcorn:

[pacalo]

20. Seems that Luskin needs his own lawyer, to tell him to keep his trap shut.

[tulsakatz]

27. luskin

yeah, right!! That's like when Scotty said in '03 that Rove absolutely was not involved!! Like we still believe them anymore........

[me b zola]

4. A01

uh-oh rover, looks like the gig is up.

[Alcibiades]

5. To quote Rove:

"I think I've already said too much." Which should be taken to read that he knew exactly what he was doing.

[Bullwinkle925]

11. Well - he is touted as being BRILLIANT, isn't he? Could he possibly

make such an error with all the checking he does on people who he presumes to be his mortal enemies?
This guy has some serious mental stuff going on!

[tulsakatz]

29. said too much

that's true........I had to question the way Cooper said he didn't know what that statement meant. Who rushes off to a meeting by saying you've said too much? If you say that you've already said too much, it means you know you shouldn't have been talking at all!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

6. I smell burning neocon!!

muahahaha

[Pachamama]

58. I love the smell of burnin Neocon in the morning....

:nuke:

Goes well w/ coffee and a cin roll...:donut:

Did you see what the front page of the WP looks like for everyone waking up and drinking their coffee? They better medicate * tommorrow well...

[SalmonChantedEvening]

71. Can I medicate as well??

Not that I need it, it just feels like a good day .... ;)

[realFedUp]

7. Not so good for the other Bush admin leakers either

Rice, Libby.....

[Lorien]

10. Dan Barlett and Ari Fleisher...

the article is very damning-well worth reading the entire thing!

[realFedUp]

12. I will....thanks

:-)

[Talismom]

8. Wow, it's really hot that WP is continuing to follow this up!

I was afraid the MSM would be all too happy to move on to SCOTUS and forget about this. Maybe, just maybe the bastards are gonna have some trouble.

[kestrel91316]

9. Here's another important question :

If the memo said her name was Valerie Wilson, how the hell did Novak get the name Plame, and from whom, and how did THAT person get it? I betcha her working/maiden name was classified, too?

[Justice]

17. That is an important question - I wondered that too.

[FreedomAngel82]

45. It probably was all there

They probably dug up all the information. I wonder though how did they know Joe Wilson was married and she was a covert agent? I'm just wondering how they knew all this. I guess they had people dig up the info or something? Maybe this is why Cheney was at the CIA agency a lot and he and Bolton were working together on the "intelligence"?

[enigmatic]

69. Judith Miller

I'd bet on it.

[kestrel91316]

76. But somebody still had to leak it to Judy. WHO??

[Tommymac]

13. Thunk. Thunk. thunk....

Another nail driven....

[realFedUp]

14. not a leak....a gusher.

where's a Watergate plumber when Bush needs one...

[tulsakatz]

31. plumber

well, Rove is a student of Nixon...........so really we shouldn't be too surprised that he's involved in a similar scandal!!

[realFedUp]

73. maybe they should have taken shop in high school....

:-)

[jsamuel]

15. "Knowingly" is no longer an issue!

I believe that was the last requirement since we also know she was covert.

Game, set, match, crime.

The "most insidious of traitors."

[madaboutharry]

16. I would love to find out

just how much we don't yet.

[punpirate]

19. None of the leakers...

... could adequately parse what part of the document was secret, and would have to assume all information in it were secret, to be in compliance with security regs. The only way to know what parts were not would be to request declassification and let the security people redact what was. If they didn't do that, they are basically screwed.

Even if it's technically not a violation of intelligence personnel identities act, they're still guilty of releasing secret material, and they don't a good argument for doing so because it was done for clearly political purposes. Think there are a few people in the White House, in the parlance, who have screwed the pooch.

[WindChill]

24. As I understand it

Those documents are marked according to the classification level of, at least, each paragraph. In addition each page contains a notation reflecting the highest classification contained on that page. It would be very difficult reading the document to not be aware of the classification of the information it contained.

[jsamuel]

30. You are right from what I understand as well.

[punpirate]

50. I didn't read the whole article...

... and you're right, the article says the paragraph containing her identity is marked secret, but her name is mentioned in two sentences in a seven-sentence paragraph. The same principle applies--not knowing what, in whole or in part, in that paragraph was the secret information, someone properly follow security regs would have to assume all of it was. The only way to know otherwise, as I say, would be to request a declassified version, and that seemed not to be done, since a declassified version is apparently not available now.

Cheers.

[wryter2000]

74. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[progressoid]

21. "punishable by up to 10 years in prison" HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

Oh, what sweet thoughts! Realistically more like 9 months and a pardon, but wouldn't it be funny if he got 9 years!

[Hissyspit]

22. So much for pushing Rove off the front page with the pushed-up Supreme

Court nomination... Ha.

[Kolesar]

72. :::smile:::

Then again, we thought we had these b*stards nailed a year ago.

[jsamuel]

23. QUESTION: Where did they find out her front company?

This is very very very very very important. If it wasn't in the memo, that means that they took EXTRA steps to find out even MORE about her when they went to reveal her. It would show some premeditation.

[Al-CIAda]

47. "A campaign against (the) Wilson(s)"

Yes, much more than this was put out, and from someone else.

[Pam-Moby]

25. Wonderful.....EG n/t

[donco6]

28. Wow! I'm actually shocked.

This is terrible for Rove, and really bad for the rest of them as well.

[alfredo]

32. Can you say, "damaged goods"?

Of course, the WaPo is just one paper. will others refocus on the scandal?

[tulsakatz]

35. media

the NY Times has been pretty good about reporting this stuff. And Olbermann usually reports on it too.

[alfredo]

61. But it has be be reported in Akron,

Barstow, and Little Rock.

[DivinBreuvage]

77. It will be reported in Akron

The Beacon Journal is a good paper.

[alfredo]

78. Great.

The Herald- Leader in Lexington is pretty fair too.

[SlowDownFast]

39. That's a great toon!

Sums it up perfectly!

[brettdale]

33. kick and send out

Kick and send out

[mmonk]

34. I think their time is up

shortly.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

36. They thought the "S" stood for

Stool Pigeon.

[GreenPartyVoter]

37. or "spread it around"

[FreedomAngel82]

38. Oh wow

So does that mean ANYONE who saw that memo could go to jail??

[Lecky]

41. Mike Malloy is reading this now on the air

:)

[ailsagirl]

42. Thanks for the heads-up... what hour is he on? I get him late

[proud patriot]

44. Final hour

[ailsagirl]

48. Ouch... that would be midnight - 1:00 a.m.

Thanks for the info

[SlowDownFast]

46. Mike said he'll be talking about it

on tomorrow night's show...



:popcorn:

[ailsagirl]

49. Great!! I'll have to make an effort to stay awake!!

:)

[Tommymac]

66. Mike Webb is talking about it now nt

[FreedomAngel82]

43. This is great!

I'm so excited about this. So could Bush have been involved and go to jail??? I hope so because these people are such bastards and they knew!
So Bush would also HAVE to know. To think he doesn't is silly. This is going to get good y'all. :popcorn:

[jsamuel]

51. Problem in this line...

"Karl Rove, President Bush's deputy chief of staff, has testified that he learned Plame's name from Novak a few days before telling another reporter she worked at the CIA and played a role in her husband's mission, according to a lawyer familiar with Rove's account."

First, it's from a one source leak. Second, he testified that he learned from another reporter before he confirmed it with Novak. Maybe this would be good to send to MediaMatters.org?

[Sydnie]

54. I hadn't heard that he confirmed it was from Novak. Last I heard

he was saying he couldn't remember which reporter told him. When did he confirm it was Novak?

And, as long as we are parsing words, Novak is not a reporter... he is a columnist. Can't be Novak if we go by the technical terms here.

[jsamuel]

56. He confirmed Plame was CIA TO Novak

that's what I was saying, not that he confirmed he heard about Plame from Novak

[Sydnie]

59. Ok, gotcha

I thought I had missed a major story somewhere.


Damn work, always gets in the way of my education these days. Glad to hear I didn't miss anything... yet, about this story.

:hi:

[brettdale]

52. kick

kick

[GiovanniC]

53. I Love How This Is Being Handled

Give them a chance to lie.

Prove they are lying.

Give them enough time to come up with a lie to attempt to explain away their previous lie.

Produce evidence proving that is also a lie.

Repeat ad infinitum until frogmarching commences.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

55. What do you want to bet that Mylanta® is a hot item at the WH right now?

This tangled web they wove may just strangle them all.

With each new drip there are new questions to be asked, not that I expect we will be getting any answers from the WH. They'll keep their lips sealed until there are indictments, and then they'll feign shock.

[lovuian]

60. Supposedly Top Secret is red stamped on these and

that whoever touches that file or memo has to sign it and so there is a paper trail and if not then a violation has occurred!!!

[Pachamama]

62. Really? Wow....so who knows...maybe Rove's fingerprints are all over this

Pass the Popcorn...this is getting good...

:popcorn:

[burrowowl]

67. YES!

And may Colon Bowel be Charged and Prosecuted TOO!
The Mai Lai cover upper! May he get his just desserts!

[shelley806]

63. Great post; I've read the entire thread, but not yet the article in its

entirety which I will do. Kick and nominate!

[rppper]

65. but...but...but....G. Gordon Liddy said he wasn't guilty of nuthin'......

:sarcasm:

i was all of 7 or 8 years old when watergate was happening, but i remember most of it....when is this generations spiro agnew...aka=cheney...going to resign?......it's getting both funnier and sadder by the day. it's good the press smells blood, but it's a crying shame it took 2 years to happen....better late than never i suppose....

[brettdale]

68. Kick

Kick

[Tennessee Gal]

70. Ahhhhhhhhhhh, the nervousness quotient has just multiplied!

Facial tics anyone?

[Lannes]

75. Kick!