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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:35 AM
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There's No BASIS for Confidence in Election Results; Activist CRACKdowns
Three days after the Andy Stephenson Memorial in Seattle, another activist is arrested for "investigation" of charges that go to "honesty" and "credibility".

This article explains reasons why such wild reactions are being experienced by activists in the elections fairness area, and establishes in clear terms through historical explanation why in American elections the vote counting emperor not only has no clothes, he has no wardrobe and lives in a glass house.

When it comes to elections, it is the government that has to prove the results it keeps data (ballots and exit poll data) secret on, not the public that has to prove an irregularity in the process specifically made secret or unavailable to the public. The final stages now being implemented of the elimination of checks and balances in elections through the massive replacement of paper ballots with invisible electronic ballots means that elections officials can never provide a basis for a rational confidence in election results, just as a court would never accept an expert opinion that refused to disclose data or methods of analysis to cross examination.

AT THIS HISTORICAL JUNCTURE WE MUST ALWAYS REMIND EVERYONE THAT THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC BASIS FOR CONFIDENCE IN ELECTION RESULTS BECAUSE BOTH THE DATA (BALLOTS AND EXIT POLL DATA) AS WELL AS THE METHOD OF ANALYSIS (COUNTING) ARE NOT DISCLOSED, CONSEQUENTLY ONLY THROUGH IRRATIONAL OR TRUST-BASED INFERENCES CAN WE CONCLUDE THAT CONFIDENCE IS APPROPRIATE FROM A SCIENTIFIC PERSPECTIVE. THE BALLOT DATA AND ANALYSIS OF VOTES METHODOLOGY WILL REMAIN SECRET INTO THE INDEFINITE FUTURE WITHOUT A REVERSAL OF POLICY, THUS WE CAN NOT AND ARE NOT ALLOWED TO VERIFY THE EXISTENCE OF DEMOCRACY IN THE UNITED STATES AS AN EMPIRICAL MATTER.

{NO DATA DISCLOSURE} + {NO ANALYSIS/COUNTING DISCLOSURE} = NO BASIS FOR CONFIDENCE IN RESULTS.

Now for how this ties in with bizarre crackdowns on activists recently:

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Recent coverage of the life and controversial death of politically progressive paper-ballot activist Andy Stephenson has focused both on how Stephenson tried to keep democracy real by advocating paper ballots, (in opposition to the recent federally funded slide into virtual reality through mass purchases of e-voting machines), and on how a vicious smear campaign was waged against Stephenson’s “credibility” while he was dying and desperately seeking treatment. I’d like to address factors more fundamental than the extensive disinformation campaign against Andy that consisted of entire websites, hate mail to friends and campaigns dedicated to claiming that the anti-election fraud activist was himself a “fraud”, because friends were raising money for his cancer surgery when he was allegedly not even ill with cancer or anything else. See, e.g., <http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0529/050720_news_mossback.php>

Whatever the motives might be for the continuation of this campaign to discredit Stephenson even after Stephenson’s well documented death at Virginia Mason Hospital in Seattle, critics seemed to delight in saying that someone who had warned us about fraudulent American elections was himself a fraud. This certainly undermines trust in the active citizen community working on these issues.

After trust issues always comes fear. Within three days of Stephenson’s July 16, 2005 memorial service in Seattle, a whistle blowing or “perjuring” former Elections Director present at Andy’s memorial and who the media never tires of reminding us was fired in 2002 (two days after a Seattle Times editorial critical of the elections department) was arrested.

But the arrest and press releases or leaks were only for “investigation” of various possible charges allegedly constituting a “pattern of dishonesty”, including allegedly adding pages to a public disclosure file she was inspecting apparently as an activist (called “forgery”), allegedly sending an email to a current elections official under a different identity (called “impersonation”), stopping payment on a check for public documents, and “tried to hit” a police officer by allegedly driving away after being shown a badge in such a manner as to force the officer to step aside to avoid being hit. This “investigation” not only merits arrest short of charges, but also apparently merits a story on the AP Wire, printed in the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, and the Seattle Weekly, and supervised by the State Attorney General’s office. <http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0530/050720_news_kempf.php>
<http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/233447_kempf21.html>

All major details of crimes she has not been charged with are dutifully printed, together with very old news of her firing controversy.



Whatever the motives of these “critics” to examine so harshly the “credibility” of certain election activists, anyone else who dismisses concerns about (or mentions the lack of confidence in) the accuracy of American elections as the work of “distrusting” “conspiracy theorists”, seems to misunderstand something extremely fundamental about the American system of democracy: it’s not about the need for trust and acceptance, it’s about checks and balances. Which is to say NOT trusting BIG power at all, in a way.

But the all-important checks and balances of elections have been destroyed over the last century or more. The ship of elections is listing badly, and the hard-working and largely faithful crew of election volunteers and officials is too often ready to take offense at anyone who points out the system is poorly designed or malfunctioning, yet all the good intentions in the world by the crew can not save a ship designed or fated to sink. It’s not about being “distrustful” of the technology Andy Stephenson personally happened to know a lot about. Rather, the more one knows about technology, the more one realizes that the utter change-ability of computer electrons is not a solid foundation upon which to continue to build democracy.

When it comes to elections, the checks and balances can not be provided by the government itself, and can only be provided by the public and/or by activist members of the public, because the government itself (which obtains or loses its power and tax money from elections), does not have the ability to check and balance itself from that position of conflict of interest. Only a tyrant counts the votes for his own “election”, so the government can never administer elections all by itself, and call it good. In fact, the very definition of tyranny is when a political enemy counts the votes unchecked, and a definition of corruption is when you and your own friends count the votes unchecked.

But the process of destabilizing elections and eliminating their checks and balances started long ago and with the best of intentions. For example, in the New England town hall around the time of our Constitution, voting would often be by a show of hands, with each voter able to count total votes for themselves if they wished. The advent of the so-called Australian ballot in the late 1800s (which included the innovative secret ballot) was a welcome protection against possible retaliation based on one’s votes, but ballot secrecy is equivalent to putting blindfolds on each voter in the town hall so that they can not see the raised hands of neighbors, with the votes counted by un-blindfolded government officials. Because an audit trail can never connect a particular ballot to a voter without violating ballot secrecy, and because the government both operates the elections and gains and loses its tax money and power via elections, it is a wonder that the public professes any basis for confidence in election results at all, especially when you consider that no one is ever allowed anymore to count the ballots for themselves, or even to see them.

Given the foundation of elections is so open to fraud unless there are serious checks and balances provided by public observation of the vote counting, taking the additional step as our nation is now of adding vastly more computers into the voting mix acts to replace paper ballots with electrons, thereby making the process of vote counting literally invisible, and consequently extremely wide open to alteration without leaving any significant evidence.

Given these structural problems and lack of checks and balances anymore in elections, one can only accept computerized voting or scanning of ballots based on pure faith, because no data is disclosed (the ballots) nor are the precise methods of analysis either disclosed, observable or repeatable.

While paper ballots are also imperfect and subject to ballot box stuffing and other risks, at least they tend to create witnesses and evidence and typically yield only single vote rewards for the unscrupulous, while computerization of the vote allows a single motivated individual to alter an entire election without leaving any substantial evidence. Thus, it is not a valid objection to say "paper ballots have problems too" because the problems are smaller, they don't spread, and they leave evidence....

With defense budgets in the trillions, government contracts in the billions, and campaign costs in the millions, many seem to think it inconceivable that anyone would mess with a US election. This is inexplicable, but apparently due to an irrational assumption that there is a lack of anything substantial at stake in American elections, or perhaps the irrational assumption that the apparent lack of any really important issues in American elections like war, abortion, or a worldwide permanent war on terror would minimize any actual tampering risk, though if these political risks were to be assumed to exist, someone on one side or the other of any of these issues could easily believe that allowing such a critical issue as a worldwide battle between Christianity and Islam to be decided or defeated by the vagaries of 30-second addled voters combined with the lies of the folks on the other "wrong" side of the issue would be a profound travesty of justice, thus completely justifying the nonviolent offense of election rigging instead of the more traditional political assassination or neutralization campaign against political enemies. In fact, rigging such an important election would become a joyous occasion for such a zealot, not a badge of shame as people seem to assume would be the case. Besides, there were at least 50 million people in the continental USA alone on each side of the REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRAT divide, each of whom had motive, and knew

WHO TO FAVOR (their candidate for president)
WHAT they needed (votes)
WHEN they needed them (on Election Day, November 2, 2004)
WHERE they needed them (swing states, particularly Ohio, Florida, New Mexico, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Iowa)
WHY they needed them (the Electoral College)

and many knew HOW to do it: change tabulator results, etc.

In fact, given the above numbers with motive and knowldge, the idea that it is "conspiracy theory" to think that someone, even someone in a foreign country or for fun, might want to affect the election for control of the world's richest country and sole military superpower is ludicrous assuming even a rudimentary knowledge of world history. Attacks on such hypotheses reflect either a fundamental failure to think, an intentional plan to discourage independent thought in the area, or a plain indication that one lacks the freedom in the USA to make educated guesses based on partial information, which itself raises grave concerns about the ability of America to compete in the world of science, since science involves the formation of "conspiratorial" hypotheses that things might work together this way or that way, based on analysis of known fact combined with intuition, followed by the testing of those hypotheses and the explanation of methods to others to see if they can repeat the same experiment with the same results.

In any event, whether correct or incorrect, there is no substantial scientific or political basis to have confidence in American elections as presently constituted, and it is IMPOSSIBLE for elections officials to PROVE them reliable without reinstituting the checks and balances they claim have been safely discarded and replaced by misleading government or secretary of state “certification” of voting machines and the "testing" of the same as to its ability to handle an election day of almost 200 votes by casting 1 or 2 test votes, just like test drives ensure the lifetime performance of an automobile.

The complete obviousness that government certification of lawyers or doctors or any other professional together with their testing is not even remotely close to a guarantee of proper behavior or performance does not stop elections officials from regularly and confidently reciting that the emperor's certification and this limited testing is a modern day improvement rendering our Constitutionally based systems of checks and balances utterly obsolete.

But Andy Stephenson, after spending the last years of his life asking for information about elections and not being able to find any basis for confidence in the reported and “certified” results, was still typically a luminous and optimistic person, determined to overcome the massive weakness in our country's democratic election defenses by making the government "show its work" like anyone else in court, in school, or on the job. One can't convict a speeder with a radar gun without showing (if challenged) that the gun is properly calibrated and how it works, and having that process be subject to cross examination. Every court case in which expert witnesses appear will require those expert witnesses to show their work, both the data they used and the methods of analysis chosen.

But in democracy, the government regularly re-elects itself with Wizard of Oz machinations that they will never disclose to regular citizens, using ballot data they never show, “confirmed” (or not at all confirmed) by exit poll data for which conclusions are published and then changed to match election "results", but the data for which is “proprietary” and therefore also never disclosed. Unfortunately, the very gullibility of the American public in accepting this process is aided by a love of country and a reticence to criticize it, yet the one most faithful to his automobile is the one who spots the problems and goes about fixing them before all is lost.

With $6 billion in new federal funding for e-voting machines under HAVA which passed Congress in 2002 to be spent by January 1, 2006, corporations now increasingly claim the heart of our elections (vote counting) and over 2/3 of the total vote in this country, as a computerized software private property interest and as a corporate trade secret that the government is obliged to help them keep secret. This state of election affairs is completely beyond concerns about corporate "influence" or corporate "power"; this is literally corporate ownership of the heart of democracy itself, made the private profit slave of a corporation, instead of serving the public interest which occasionally calls for something other than profit as a motive.

Given the private property now claimed at the heart of democracy itself and the focus on profitability, one would think the government would have the sense to auction off the right to count votes in secret to the highest bidding corporation, in order to maximize the return to the taxpayer for the literal sellout of our democracy.

Certainly, a “modest proposal” by a foreign nation to abstain from attacking our cities, factories and taking our mineral resources in exchange for the minor favor of merely counting our votes in secret would be met by immediate recognition of what this really means, rejection of the "offer" and repulsion by force as needed, yet in our day and age taxpayers are handsomely paying tax dollars to private corporations to assume this extraordinary privilege and immunity of secret vote counting, with the government allying with these private corporations to defeat the public’s right to know what’s going on in its elections, and to operate as a check and balance on the counting of the vote. It is a "conquest by contract" in which mere purchases of voting equipment purport to vitiate our history, constitution, democracy, and checks and balances without so much as a poor debate by a legislature ignorant of the Constitution. The Founders were SO distrustful to think that congress might do something unconstitutional!

COnsider now the radical secrecy in which the government is now attempting to operate elections as a strong contrast with the openness and friendliness of Andy Stephenson, who maintained his style and spirit to the end, despite having every reason in the world to call bullshit on the real democracy he loved, and swore would never die on HIS watch.

We should be much more concerned with the credibility of the side of the debate that is saying “trust me” with wealth or power than the activist side of the debate that asks for public debate on election security and insists on checks and balances, a central term in which power was delegated from the people to the government in the first place.

Until the media re-learns these things and ceases ignoring the concerns of active citizens and being inexplicably crippled as a check and balance to big government and big corporations, the media and our elections will continue to receive a grade of “F” for Fear and Favor. Like Soviet "journalists", they now seem to fancy themselves “responsible” for not making “irresponsible” public questions.

The loss of freedom, the loss of the meaningful right to vote, and the loss of checks and balances may all happen on our watch, not because many truly wish them dead, but because they are *being called something else*, or made fun of, and then dismissed or killed, like when checks and balances are renamed “distrust”, and when exercising right of any citizen to inquire and/or exercise the freedom to theorize (defined as the reconciliation of available facts into an educated probabilistic judgment) about what has deliberately been made secret is laughed off as “conspiracy theory” by journalists eager to triangulate themselves into some centrist credentials in a craven form of self-protection or proof to their employers that they will not question corporate or governmental secrecy, but will instead ridicule those would would think or inquire. All of this comes at the expense of the dynamic of active and voluntary association to solve problems that de Tocqueville considered essential to the unique American character and so prevalent among americans, because one is ridiculed for venturing off into the unknown territory instead of achieving a form of respect at least as a pioneer, even if dead wrong, as many a pioneer's fate.

Whether the two activists of Mr. Stephenson and Ms. Klempf are perfect or instead a work in progress on the moral level, they are two active folks I’ve seen or heard about who “got it”, and were trying to live these American ideals of voluntary problem-solving association in order to protect and improve their country’s democracy. One ended up cruelly dead, the other publicly jailed for an "investigation" and labeled dishonest.

In no way do the humiliating punishments meted out to these activists fit the “crimes” even if all the allegations had been true, but there are compensations. These compensations are (1) we got the NEWS (defined by Bill Moyers I think as something somebody in power wants to keep hidden) and all they got is the rest, which is just PR.

When the PR is failing as badly as it is now, the powers that be tend to feel threatened and lash out. But in the end nothing can stop the common sense argument that secret corporate vote counting is wrong, nor can anything stop the desire of an awakened American public to rid itself of anything and anyone that would claim the treasonous right to own as private PROPERTY for profit and without regard to the public interest, our democracy itself, and furthermore without any right of supervision or control by the public.

The only thing worse than selling your soul or your democracy, is allowing it to be possessed or owned for purely selfish purposes in the first place.

P. Lehto
Attorney at Law
paul@lehtopenfield.com
(the only way my "credibility" is at issue in the above essay is to the extent you fail or refuse to exercise your God-given right as an American to think for yourself)

Plaintiff, Lehto & Wells v. Sequoia Voting Systems, et al.
Pleadings at:
<www.votersunite.org/info/lehtolawsuit.asp>
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 06:42 AM
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1. Well said :-)
:-)
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:01 AM
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2. Thanks Papau, you must be a fast reader!! long, but worth it I hope!
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 03:28 PM
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24. Arcata, CA Adopted This Language Last Night
Arcata, CA became the first in the nation to adopt the Voter Confidence Resolution last night. It uses this exact phrase "no basis for confidence." Read more.
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:20 AM
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3. thanks land shark
Very powerful.

There's less than a year and a half until the midterms and any legislation to ameliorate our voting systems is totally stymied in Congress.

Kerry was polling in the low 70's on November 1st in my dinky blue state but his tally was in the low 60's. I think they even shaved off votes in the blue states to bolster *'s popular vote to give him his alleged mandate.

Uhh we use optical scanners here. It truly sucks and truly qualitfies as taxation without representation.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:26 AM
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4. A bunch of the congressional legislation would, IMHO backfire
with voting companies suing for compensation for the "taking" of their trade secrets if the anti-secrecy legislation such as in the Holt bill is passed. Phillip Morris did this successfully with a massachusetts law that required disclosure of cigarette additives, claimed they were a trade secret property interest that was taken, and asked for compensation, and got some! that's why I think people should realize that these are illegal contracts, void from teh get-go and of no force and effect, therefore no "taking" when they are gone...
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:17 AM
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51. I disagree..
.... voting machine makers are essentially government contractors since they sell all of their products to states and municipalities.

These states and municipalities have the right to demand in their products whatever features they want. If the current makers of the machines are not interested, then the states and municipalities should tell them to take a hike.

A government contract is not an entitlement. This is not remotely comparable to a consumer product.

And lastly, the idea that a voting machine contains some kind of higg-tech trade secrets is ludicrous. A first year grad student could develop one. It's a tabulator written to a database for crying out loud.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:27 AM
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5. 110K "extra" votes x 31 states 'won'= 341M vote mandate
You betcha there were votes shaved off. That's what georgia was all about in '02. It was a test run..and it worked.

There was no way in hell they would allow another "close" race.. they picked up extra votes in states that would not be contested (knowing they would never be questioned" and just enough extra in "close" states..

the sad truth is,m that we will never again know who really won ANY race.. We might as well stop pretending that we even have elections..
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:46 AM
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8. have no basis to conclude we do, or we don't.... therefore we don't n/t
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:24 AM
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9. somethin' happened.... too bad they won't disclose n/t
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:28 AM
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6. Impressive.
In the months leading up to the 2004 election, I remember speaking to a friend. She had a "bad feeling" about the election, and I remember telling her that Kerry had it won, that the only way Bush could stay in office was if they stole the election. And I remember her calling me back a bit later, and saying that the republican machine was indeed prepared to steal the election, with the system your post describes.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:33 AM
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7. Thanks, "no basis for confidence" is the bullet proof mantra
until they start disclosing and allowing public observation of all aspects of elections.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:14 AM
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10. kicking!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:17 AM
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11. Who counts the votes?
Just a couple of people in a closet somewhere.

Really, the people who decide how to count the votes on E-voting machines (80% of the country) are no more than a handful of computer programmers; just like programmers who make the viruses you get in e-mails.

Elections have been, and will always be, subject to theft.

Yet most of America is in deep denial that the system could ever steal votes. A denial not unlike a mother's denial that her son ever "Did That".

There is motive to steal. There was an opportunity, and there exists a record of vote stealing. Then there is evidence. Yet America remains in denial.

Paper Ballots, counted by millions of human eyes, is the only election process that will ever have my confidence and allow me to be rest assured of real democratic government. As it stands, this government is invalid.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:21 AM
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12. can't pick and choose Republicans, all would be questionable
or invalid, until the method of election is verifiable in terms of whether real democracy exists.

Do you think any of the arguments i've raised would help convince people that there really is every reason to believe that lots of people have motive?

I don't like the idea that "Bush" stole the election. No coordination is needed, everybody knows what to do, when to do it, etc., on all sides of teh political debate.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:44 AM
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15. Convincing?
Hell, I was convinced before I read your fine article. Heck, me and Andy, et al, used to discuss this matter before Andy became famous outside of DU.

Your missive might be more convincing were it written a bit different... I dunno, I can hardly write, and have had little luck convincing others of the possibility the vote was stolen, although I have had some success getting them to see some kind of paper in our future.

You have a pretty good knack for getting the point across and surely you are educating more and more people with each and every effort, just as Andy made progress in his endeavors.

NGU.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:35 AM
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19. yes we need to blow apart the myths...dispel the illusions....
--to help people understand exactly how our system invites abuse. There is every reason to believe that lots of people have motive, that lots of elves working independently for one side can easily steal an election. These helpers can even feel they're doing a good deed 'to support the team' in today's climate of ends justifying the means. As you say, there is NO reason to trust the election system. My theory is that there are plenty of "realists" --ordinary citizens both Democrat and Republican who KNOW that elections are rigged in various ways and they either repress this, or they just accept it as OK (as long as their guy wins). We need to give people concrete reasons why they should not trust the election system as it currently exists and why it needs to be radically reformed.
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I like the way you put this Landshark:

"In fact, rigging such an important election would become a joyous occasion for such a zealot, not a badge of shame as people seem to assume would be the case. Besides, there were at least 50 million people in the continental USA alone on each side of the REPUBLICAN/DEMOCRAT divide, each of whom had motive, and knew

WHO TO FAVOR (their candidate for president)
WHAT they needed (votes)
WHEN they needed them (on Election Day, November 2, 2004)
WHERE they needed them (swing states, particularly Ohio, Florida, New Mexico, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Iowa)
WHY they needed them (the Electoral College)

and many knew HOW to do it: change tabulator results, etc."


(Re your etc. --I'd like to see a big elaboration of the "how")

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I think you're right on target with breaking it down like that.
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We need to reach people who don't get their news from the net. I wish somebody like you Landshark would get together with a writer
or journalist (and maybe a social psychologist) to put out a book detailing exactly how this abuse of our very vulnerable system is being done. You seem to have a lot of info and experience at your fingertips. And I like the way as a lawyer, you understand human behavior as well as legalities. An asset to be sure. You would need to talk to people on the ground, in the trenches in several states and make it readable, with individual accounts. We need aids such as a book like this--to help convince people that election theft is not only possible, it is probable. It's real and it's happening. There are various audiences you want to reach. Identify the groups who believe that the election system only has minor problems. The educated and informed (who nevertheless want to believe the system works) vs the gullible and simplistic thinkers (those who get their political ideas from Rush Limbaugh or fundy churches) --obviously would need different levels of explanation.
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Here's an article I use to help convince educated people that we have a BIG PROBLEM (these ideas could be made accessible to the average person with some additional explanation):

The Miami Herald Feb 03, 2005
ELECTIONS
Ukraine vote yields important lessons for U.S. democracy
BY LANCE DEHAVEN-SMITH

(excerpt)
"...unlike this year's presidential election in Ukraine, the 2004 presidential election in the United States was left intact despite legal challenges and protests. In large part this was because U.S. election laws and political culture fail to take into account the potential for systematic bias in election administration. U.S. laws and public opinion focus, instead, on the possibility that unscrupulous candidates might arrange for votes to be cast illegally by individuals using false identifications, forged absentee ballots, or other ruses.

Election shenanigans were common in the 19th Century and in much of the 20th, but in recent years they have been eclipsed by scattered mischief that is carried out or abetted by public officials responsible for election administration. One factor that has contributed to this shift from the conspiratorial tampering of the past to the massive fraud that is so prevalent today is the poorly conceived effort to remake government in the image of the private sector. In recent years, civil-service protections for government employees have been greatly weakened, and many governmental functions have been contracted out to private corporations.

These changes in American public administration have created a new spoils system that makes massive fraud likely in today's elections because it effectively ties public employment and government contracts to election outcomes. In Florida and Ohio, for example, many corporations, public officials and government workers had a vested interest in the reelection of President Bush. No conspiracy was needed to orchestrate their activities. Multiple biases with cumulative effects could be (and were) introduced into the election system through the independent efforts of numerous individuals acting on their own initiative in the pursuit of the same objective. Until U.S. election laws are reformed to guard against massive fraud, our elections will remain vulnerable to systemic abuses.

To be sure, bias in election administration could probably be prosecuted today under existing laws. Certainly, officials in Florida and Ohio appear to have violated their official oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution and the constitutions of their states. They may have also broken federal civil-rights laws by intentionally weakening the voting power of African Americans. However, these acts of massive fraud have gone unpunished -- and, indeed, uninvestigated -- because most Americans have yet to recognize the new form of election tampering that is undermining our democracy."

Lance deHaven-Smith is professor of public administration and policy at Florida State University.
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:18 AM
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17. correction.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 10:21 AM by Zan_of_Texas
Actually, 80% of the vote is counted by two companies, ES&S & Diebold. At least, that's the number that's oft repeated.

About 30% (and growing) is counted by electronic voting machines.

But, the hack demonstration in Leon County, Florida by Bev Harris and Harri Hursti in front of the elections director on a Diebold optical scan machine should give pause to those who've been saying, "Kick out the DREs! Get optical scan systems!"

For more on that: "Are we having fun yet?"
Friday, May 27, 2005 - 05:03 pm:
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/5921.html


ANY non-human observable process in an election is an invitation to flaws or fraud. ANY electronic transmission, ANY electronic programming to scan or count votes, ANY bar codes, ANY email transmission, ANY gap in chain of custody of votes, ANYthing behind the black box or a closed door or arrangement of electrons should be ripped out of the counting process. There should be no secret (and no trade secret) except for the actual confidential vote itself.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:28 AM
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18. Optical scan is e-voting
Andy and I used to argue about that. Sure, paper is used for a ballot, but the ballot was counted by a computer program... a program subject to the same kind of code found in email viruses.

Maybe that's another approach? America's vote is counted using the same coding spammers and malicious email computer geeks use to terrorize your computer.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 12:08 PM
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21. Paper ballots, optical scan WITH random recounts, proper auditing
"Now there are many people that say we should be all hand counted paper all the time. In an ideal world we would do that. But realistically that is not going to happen. Elections offices in most jurisdictions if not all, are under funded. Elections officials struggle with tight budgets and in most cases do a damned good job with what they have. Not all elections officials are bad and many want to run good clean elections. Keeping the system honest is up to us. With proper auditing and truly random recounts optical scans are the safest and most accurate way to count an election. The trouble starts when the votes are sent via electronic means to a central tabulator. I would also add that the tabulator needs to be as secure as Ft. Knox because after all our votes are more precious than gold."~ Andy Stephenson 4/29/05
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:10 PM
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37. Among the many ways fraud was enabled in the 2004 Ohio election was
the avoidance of RANDOM recounts (which is against the law) and the use of "cheat sheets" by Triad employees who then could assure that tallies matched, thus avoiding a required hand-recount.

In Ohio, the 3% recounts were NOT random, which circumvented the whole law and enabled the fraud.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:42 PM
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39. also precinct verified counting
will help check the accuracy of the central tabulators.

I think this system can be made to work well--IF random handcounts occur during the voting. Here is a good website for info about how paper ballots with opti-scan and why they are better than DREs.

http://www.nyvv.org/paperballotVsDRE.htm
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 09:05 AM
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43. Great source, mg
Ok, optical scan is not quite the same as e-voting, and the source at your link makes for some enlightening reading. I think I would have a returned sense of confidence were I to vote using a Precinct Based Optical Scan system. Lets do it.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 01:09 AM
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49. optical scan doesn't have the e-voting problem of not being
able to see your own vote.... but the software to 'read' those votes is roughly similar in both.

touch screens can never be rescued.
optical scans, if there are simultaneous robust hand counts to check the operation of the scanner and each other's hand counting, could work but only if properly designed.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:25 AM
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52. I just talked with a good Democratic friend who lives in Atlanta
I chatted with him for a while about the state of GA's Diebold machines. He was happy with them until I explained to him how his last two elections were stolen using them. It amazes me how many smart people are fooled by Vapor Ballots!

:(
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:24 AM
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13. fight on Paul! I assume you have contacted Conyers office regarding the
election official. We need to make sure whistle blowers are protected and not frightened into submission by strong-armed techniques!
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:40 AM
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14. I think others know her personally and I assume will do so who
have access to more facts
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:15 AM
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16. I agree
We can't say that we live in a democracy under the current system for counting our votes. And if this is allowed to continue, I'm afraid it will get worse and worse, until the tyranny is obvious to most people. But by then it may be too late.

And what's wrong with us being called "conspiracy theorists"? History if full of conspiracies, and it's the job of historians to theorize about them. In today's environment, if you're not a conspiracy theorist you simply don't do much thinking.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:36 AM
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20. If the vote is counted by partisan members on one side
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 11:41 AM by bonito
Why can't the other side count there own votes,that is to say separate partisan voting places by methods of choice of the party. Sounds simple and fair to me. I don't think we would need an exit pole just look at the crowds.
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starmaker Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:45 PM
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22. kick n/t
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 01:46 PM
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23. Good work, Land Shark!
I have been coming back to read this throughout the day while I am at work. DEFINITELY worth taking the time to read. We need to be louder about voting regulations and accountability. Thanks for such a wonderful post. Kicked, nominated and bookmarked!

:kick:

:yourock:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 05:59 PM
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48. Thanks! n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:28 PM
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25. What a great post.
Thank you so much :toast:

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:32 PM
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26. BRAVO! Kicked & Nominated!
Well said.

:applause:
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 03:52 PM
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45. Thanks to all! and thanks especially on top of that to 20 nominators! nt
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 07:53 PM
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27. And we must never forget the very suspicious death of Athan Gibbs
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031904Fitrakis/031904fitrakis.html

I believe he was murdered because he was getting too close to being able to introduce HONEST voting machines where the Bush crime cartel wanted their cronies' hackable ones.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:06 PM
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28. I'll have to ready some on him... n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:45 PM
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31. The Fitrakis article is a good place to start. Here's a bit more:
http://www.commonground.ca/iss/0410159/cg159_USvote.shtml
CG : Archive : October 2004

2004 US election - True vote or computer fraud?


by Bo Filter

Tribute to Athan Lee Gibbs, Sr.

Athan Gibbs died under suspicious circumstances in a two-vehicle collision just north of Nashville on March 12. He had begun marketing the US-government-certified TruVote voter validation and verification system, a touch screen machine that gives voters a verifiable paper audit trail.

The machine issues a number that the voter can verify through an election office printout, a toll free number or a secure site on the internet. The machine rectifies voting irregularities cited by a joint study conducted by the Carnegie Corporation, Cal Tech and MIT. The joint project found that between four and six million votes were lost in the 2000 election. The Tennessee General Assembly presented Gibbs with a joint resolution honouring his invention.

In Washington, Congress is deliberating bills that will mandate Gibbs’s voter verifiable paper audit trail (VVPAT). Some States have moved ahead. Ohio, Nevada and California have executive orders directing county election officials to only buy electronic voting machines equipped with the VVPAT.

Gibbs was driven by his experiences growing up in Memphis. During the 1950s and ‘60s, he watched minorities struggle to exercise their right to vote. He decided to act after reviewing a US study of the 2000 presidential election. The Commission on Civil Rights found that votes cast by African-Americans in the decisive state of Florida were 10 times more likely to be rejected. Readers may recall the many media reports of complaints during that election about large numbers of missing votes from democratically controlled black counties.

(snip)


There are also a number of DU threads in which Athan Gibbs' death and the loss it represented to the cause of election reform are mentioned in the opening post or comment thread. Some of them which I happened to save links to (there may be others more to the point):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=355044&mesg_id=355117
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=355079


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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:52 PM
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32. Thanks for the links! n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:56 PM
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34. You're welcome. I want to emphasize that this is far from the whole story
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 08:57 PM by Nothing Without Hope
and also that I believe it's an important part that has not been receiving the continued attention that it clearly merits. I have not done a full research on the topic, so there must be a lot more out there.

What happened to Gibbs' Tru-Vote machine when he was killed? It "silently disappeared." In its place, the eminently corruptible, trail-less machines from the GOP cronies were installed.

I believe that he was murdered and the quiet demise of the Tru-Vote technology was orchestrated.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:14 PM
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29. Kick this!
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:30 PM
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30. Our 'leaders' failing us in this have given our country to criminals. n/t
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 08:52 PM
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33. Landshark thanks. Profound as always.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:21 PM
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35. This is all very sad!
I wonder if we will ever know the truth, since it looks like the rig is in?

I hope she can retain a good lawyer and prove her innocence in court, but I remember a time when the prosecution needed to prove your guilt.

In any case, I think that I need to remind everybody that these accusations do not relate in any way whatsover to the late Andy Stephenson, or to his fundraising activities.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:29 PM
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36. Sometimes there just can't possibly be confidence in election results
I mean when the difference in vote totals between the candidates is less than the the margin of error in the counting method. Optical scanning counts have an error rate of 0.2%, and the doublechecked hand count method used in the gubernatorial recount has an error rate of 0.1%. Unluckily, the difference between Rossi and Gregoire with two machine counts and one hand count was 0.01% in all three counts. The good news is that we actually had a complete audit of that race (except in Snohomish and Yakima counties, a situation which our favorite shark is trying to rectify), and verified the optical scan results within the margin of error. That means that the negative vote-casting capacity of the counting software was not actually used (at least in that race), though it is still damned well not acceptable for it to be there.

It's unfortunate that this situation adds to the lack of trust produced by unacceptable secrecy, since the uncertainty that we saw in the gubernatorial race is going to occur occasionally and we are going to have to learn to deal with it.

It's like trying to measure 1/32 of an inch with a ruler that only has 1/4" divisions. Switching to a ruler with 1/8" divisions doesn't really change the situation. Now, if you were working on a sewing or woodworking project that required that kind of accuracy, you'd just decide not to do the project if you couldn't find an adequate ruler. This is not, however, an option with an election for a public office that has to be filled one way or another. If mathematics and engineering can't help us out of the situation, we have to rely on the law, and according to our laws, Gregoire is the governor. We are stuck with accepting this despite the fact that it is flat out impossible to know who won. At least she's proven to be a far better governor than a campaigner.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:23 PM
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38. eridani, Yakima County bit the DRE dust a week ago, and has
converted to all mail-in balloting. A good two-step is to first kick the DRE/touch screen habit that addicts to secrecy on all levels from casting the vote to counting it. With VBM at least the casting of the vote is open and verified by the voter.

Only Snohomish County left. Write your county council members if you are in Snohomish county.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:03 AM
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40. Part of OUR PERMANENT RECORD. Kick-Recommend
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 12:04 AM by autorank
You are an eloquent spokesman for the cause, the law, and these two activists who are victims of injustice. We need more advocates like you. It's time that the lawyers rise up and make the the "machine people" account for their actions. That $6.0 Billion is the root of all evil. It is a payoff, the gift that keeps on giving, from the elected to those who will count the votes. I'm not a "coincidence" theorist and this is no coincidence.

Thank you for your fine words, arguments, and for your work.

And since this is GD (and not ERD), I'll feel free to say

:yourock: and Rock Hard!
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:29 AM
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41. tHANKS Autorank, now let me see if i can get a graphic in here
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 02:32 AM
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47. BTW is the 'permanent record' a DU thing or just an expression?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 08:48 AM
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42. hava- the orwellian beginning of the orwellian end
hava and the smashing of vns should have been red flags to anyone who can think. they screamed that 2000 was no fluke, but part of a long term plan. where was the media? oh, yeah, in the corporate pocket.
you go landshark. we are behind you 1000%. as long as they don't shut down the internet, we will prevail. sadly, this is a possibility.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:15 PM
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44. Kick!!
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 12:10 AM
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46. thanks. interesting post by Time for Change in 2004 Elections discussion
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 07:02 AM
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50. .
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 08:58 PM
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53. Kicked, with gratitude and admiration.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-05 10:23 PM
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54. Kick for Landshark! n/t
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