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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:30 AM
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"House Votes Against Early Iraq Withdrawal"
WASHINGTON (AP) - Calls for an early withdrawal from Iraq are a mistake that will only embolden terrorists, the House resolved Wednesday. The resolution drew opposition from Democrats, who said it implied that questioning President Bush's Iraq policies is unpatriotic.

The measure, approved 291-137, says the United States should leave Iraq only when national security and foreign policy goals related to a free and stable Iraq have been achieved.

"Calls for an early withdrawal embolden the terrorists and undermine the morale" of U.S. and allied forces and put their security at risk, the amendment to a State Department bill reads.

The GOP-controlled House also voted 304-124 to accept another contentious amendment stating that the detention and lawful interrogation of detainees at Guantanamo is essential to the war on terrorism. Some critics of reported prisoner abuse and lack of legal recourse for detainees have called for Guantanamo to be closed.

http://apnews1.iwon.com/article/20050721/D8BFOVPO1.html
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:32 AM
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1. I have no words
:argh:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:33 AM
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2. "the resolution implied that questioning Bush's policies is unpatriotic"
That's a theme of their's, isn't it? Outrageous.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:34 AM
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3. early? to paraphrase Yogi . . .
it got late early in Iraq.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:38 AM
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4. They've got the moderate Rs in the House by the balls, apparently.
The language from the sponsor is bordering on hateful.

And look who is lecturing us about morals; Bug-Bomb Tom:
"To establish such a deadline," added House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, "all but ensuring disaster, would be morally and strategically indefensible."
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:41 AM
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5. number 1
It's not their call. Number 2, their base must the most ignorant in the world. Number 3, send their asses over there
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:42 AM
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6. Here's my question: What exactly are these goals anyway?
And how the fuck is Bush going to achieve them?
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:47 AM
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7. Gosh! We LOVE our little war!
I think this house resolution is stupid, considering more and more GOP legislators are coming out for a definite timetable...and more and more of the public wants the same...perhaps this resolution can be used to our advantage in the 2006 elections? (in the more independent/moderate districts/states)

bush WILL HAVE his grenada....so that he can be seen in the same light as one of his heroes, reagan, IMHO
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:58 AM
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8. 2006
I'll bet the vote in 2006 is in favor of a pullout, since the public will be even more demanding by then.

It's odd that our representatives are in favor of throwing an infinite amount of money at this problem, because, besides the men and women they are throwing into this bottomless hole, the vast sums of tax dollars has to be one the greatest expenditures in American history. You'd think CONservatives would be a bit more mindful of the capital outlays involved, eh?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:04 AM
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9. Does anyone believe the House serves any useful purpose?
I see it as a place where ideologues go to destroy the Republic. Have you looked at some of the bills these people have passed? It would seem that the goal is to turn every public resource over to the corporations. HR2830/HR2831 is designed to take away older employees pensions and to overturn Cooper VS IBM, which was decided in favor of IBM retirees.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 02:09 PM
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11. We have got to get the corps out of the gov't and make the
politicians do their job.. balancing what is good for the big guy and little guy.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:04 AM
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10. Delete double post.
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 10:04 AM by sinkingfeeling
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