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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:56 AM
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I think Blair knows he is in trouble-he is subdued-as i listen to him on
cnn. He has little to say except--lets get back to normal.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:56 AM
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1. He can only say--lets get back to 'normal' so many times before people
will say--enough is enough.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:57 AM
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3. Reporter asking if Blair feels any responsibility now that Brits on the
front line of this war on terror. so far is is avoiding the question.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:59 AM
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5. He says to stay calm. He avoided answering the question and does NOT
accept any responsibility.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:59 AM
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8. Blair put the full responsibility of these acts on the people who did them
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:00 AM
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10. Did blair learn that from bushco?
NEVER take responsibilty for Anything..Pass that freakin' BUCK!

Or did he learn it all on his own?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:03 AM
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16. lets just say that Bush reinforced Blair's cowardness.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:57 AM
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2. yes, please shop ...
... and all will be better. :eyes:
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:09 AM
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21. He Should Be!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 10:14 AM by on the EDGE
This is all out of control this is not the wat to handle the problem. I hold Bush and Blair and ANYONE who voted for them directly responsible they all have blood on their hands. If we would have had a peace time president in the white house on September 11th this world would be a completely different place and I don't think for the worse............but that's just me!!
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:58 AM
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4. It will be interesting to see....
what Blair has to say once he is finally out of office. Hopefully his published memoirs will coincide with BushCo's war crimes tribunal. A guy can dream, right?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:03 AM
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13. dreams are what get me though this crap sometimes.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:21 AM
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26. You mean I'm not alone???
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:59 AM
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6. He's starting to sound just like Bush
He's full of political psycho-babble, repeat repeat repeat.. This from a guy whom I used to respect for being an eloquent speaker.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:00 AM
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9. blair is a parrot of Jr--as well as that little winnie Howard standing nex
t to him.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:03 AM
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15. I said the same thing after the last bombing there
The speech Blair gave then was nothing but a reworked blivet** speech from the week before. There are not enough sheeple for him to continue this way, not in Britian. They will raise their voices and drum him right out of office.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:59 AM
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7. "Might your policies have put people in this position?"
"no"
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:01 AM
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11. yes, i heard that one. The "west' accepts NO responsibility. Good
question by reporter--she was following up on the non response by Blair.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:02 AM
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12. We'll see "no"!! It ain't over
yet!
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back2basics909 Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:03 AM
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14. I think he is trouble...
.. It’s hard to get a feel for it in the states, but I watched the ITV news (more tabloid than the BBC) and they were ridiculing Blair’s comments on the 7/7 attack not being about Iraq.

With somebody high up in the administration leaking the DSM (likely a Brown supporter), Blair is on rocky ground right now.

Brown came under some fire for messing with the way the budget figures were calculated, which will make it harder for a leadership challenge. But with public opinion the way it is, and the press also going after him, he may not stay Teflon Tony for much longer.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:05 AM
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18. yes, Blair is in trouble--hope the people speak up LOUDLY!! --maybe
rub off on some of US peoples--WAKE UP!!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:04 AM
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17. Shite! No wonder blair
is on cnn..I hadn't heard about MORE bombings in London.

I am so sorry!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:07 AM
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19. yes, I feel for the people in the streets. And to think that the Blair-
Bush-Howard team is so illusional about it all!!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:09 AM
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22. Reporter saying how this related to Irag war and Blair denying it. saying
this new incident will make it once again a (more) political point. Yes. lets hope she is RIGHT ON!! Bet blair is ready to shot her--as she is bringing it up on TV!!!!!!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:07 AM
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Unfortunately, bombings may be the new normal.
He should work on changing that.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:07 AM
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20. Unfortunately, bombings may be the new normal.
He should work on changing that.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:11 AM
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I do not think the Brits will accept that. They got thru the IRA thing
and are sick and tired of living like this. At least that is what a friend told me who lives just outside of London.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:11 AM
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23. Very telling last statement there
"I have no doubt that, in the end, the values that we represent will be the values that triumpth. And you know why I say that? I say that because everytime people in somewhat, somewhere like Afganistan, or in (? sorry missed it), or in Palistine, these causes that they try to pray upon, everytime, the ordinary people in those countries are given the chance to vote, they vote. And they actually prefer the democratic way too, and that's why in the end, we'll win."

So we did just go there to "whip a little democratic voting" on them? We didn't go there to deal with their WMD's? We went because we wanted them to VOTE?

And, if they voted for us to leave, would we listen?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:12 AM
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24. gee what about all those military bases we are builing in Iraq.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:14 AM
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25. Reporter saying there is an uncomfirmed unexploded devise in
one of the substations at this time.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:26 AM
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27. What are the values you represent Tony?
Some would also call poisoning the Iraqi landscape and starting wars for illegitimate reasons another form of terrorism.

Scientists studying the biological effects of uranium in the 1960s reported that it targets the DNA. Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist retired from the Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab and formerly involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in soldiers from the 2003 war as “spectacular … and a matter of concern.”

This evidence shows that of the three effects which DU has on biological systems - radiation, chemical and particulate – the particulate effect from nano-size particles is the most dominant one immediately after exposure and targets the Master Code in the DNA. This is bad news, but it explains why DU causes a myriad of diseases which are difficult to define.

In simple words, DU “trashes the body.” When asked if the main purpose for using it was for destroying things and killing people, Fulk was more specific: “I would say that it is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people.”

Soldiers developing malignancies so quickly since 2003 can be expected to develop multiple cancers from independent causes. This phenomenon has been reported by doctors in hospitals treating civilians following NATO bombing with DU in Yugoslavia in 1998-1999 and the U.S. military invasion of Iraq using DU for the first time in 1991. Medical experts report that this phenomenon of multiple malignancies from unrelated causes has been unknown until now and is a new syndrome associated with internal DU exposure.

http://www.sfbayview.com/081804/Depleteduranium081804.shtml
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Jose Diablo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:02 AM
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28. Yep, I would say DU is a gift that keeps on giving
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 11:26 AM by Jose Diablo
"In simple words, DU “trashes the body.” When asked if the main purpose for using it was for destroying things and killing people, Fulk was more specific: “I would say that it is the perfect weapon for killing lots of people.”

The war in Iraq has 'salted the ground' with poison. In the future, long after the war ends, DU will continue to kill in Iraq.

This is what historians will remember about the early 21st century.

Edit: Think about it, the British and we Americans have poisoned the 'cradle of civilization' much like Rome 'salted the earth' of Carthage. LOL, I doubt the rest of humanity will forgive us, ever.

I guess this is the sunset of 'western' civilization, maybe its time for the Chinese civilization to have a go at running the world, to see if they are better at it.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 11:29 AM
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29. And not only Iraqis will suffer
but the US and any other occupying troops as well. But what would Rummy care, they are, after all, fungible.


Eleven thousand of the Gulf War I era vets are dead. A half million Gulf vets are on medical disability; but the government refuses to acknowledge they have radiation poisoning, hoping they will go ahead and die to reduce costs.

This is not a problem, though, for George W. Bush and the fascist neocons running the Great American War Machine. None other than Henry Kissinger, former national security advisor and secretary of state, explains the proper imperial outlook for troubled Americans who may not quite understand the "big picture" yet.

Kissinger sagely informs us mere peasants in America that: "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used" (as pawns for foreign policy). Try telling that to dead vets' families and parents and families of the walking dead.


http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/021205Nichols/021205nichols.html

For documentation on the quote by Kissinger about military men being dumb, stupid animals (for those who might find it too incredible to believe), see: http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/06/266114.shtml


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