BREAKING MEMO MARKED TOP SECRET NOT RELEASEABLE TO FORIEGN NATIONALS MSNBC

[TrueAmerican]

BREAKING

MARKED TOP SECRET : DO NOT SHARE WITH FORIEGN NATIONALS

WALL STREET JOURNAL REPORTING IN TOMORROW'S PAPER

This is the memo that was said to be carried by Colin Powell aboard Air Force 1 and viewed by several GOP operatives.

[Jacobin]

1. Can't believe its a WSJ guy reporting this

Weird.

[bagimin]

8. I always LOVED that WSJ!

whee!

[Zen Democrat]

34. The WSJ reporting arm and the editorial page are separate.

WSJ reporters often break big stories that don't make the Editorial Board all that happy. The editorial page is run by Paul Gigot. Enough said.

[ncteechur]

2. Huh?? Did I miss something?

[sabra]

3. memo regarding?

[TrueAmerican]

4. The Air Force 1/Valerie Plame memo

n/t

[geek tragedy]

6. The Plame memo.

The whole memo was Top Secret.

The section dealing with her was super-duper top secret--the kind they couldn't even share with foreign intelligence services.

[Sydnie]

12. "double super secret background" now makes more sense n/t

[AspenRose]

13. Or as Randi would say it,

uber-super-duper-ultra-deluxe-primo top secret....

[pinkpops]

23. Is a foreign national a

citizen of some other country, or is this some technical term?
Does this mean it is ok to share with a US citizen? From the tone here, I don't think it means that ...?

[Zen Democrat]

38. I think officials can release some secret information to foreigners.

For instance ... remember the Downing Street Minutes? Blair's intelligence guys were over here meeting with Condi and Tenet and undoubtedly received classified information.

This document was not only marked "Top Secret" but the addition of the "Do not share .." sentence means not to be shared even with allies.

[hertopos]

5. Please explain.

Sounds very interesting but I have no idea which memo you are talking about.

Hertopos

[Pirate Smile]

10. The State Dept. Memo that Powell took on the trip to Africa on AF1

[ckramer]

7. But only foreigners can afford to read WSJ

must not be a secret then...

[Vickers]

9. OK, foreigners, don't buy tomorrow's WSJ!

:P

[Connie_Corleone]

11. Memo about Valerie Wilson on MSNBC:

Memo was marked TOP SECRET. The paragraph that mentions Valerie Wilson was marked S NSF (Secret. Do not share with foreign nationals.)

[blondeatlast]

14. Link for your story? thanks. nt

[Connie_Corleone]

21. It will be in the Wall Street Journal tomorrow morning.

No link yet.

[Kahuna]

24. How does a person link a story that was just shown on TV?

:silly: It must be me. But I haven't figured it out yet.

[wishlist]

15. This explains how Fitzgerald convinced judge of national security issue

Supposedly the judge was going to go easy on Miller and Cooper and not demand they testify until Fitzgerald gave him a confidential 8 page letter explaining the vital national security issues at stake in the investigation. No doubt the top secret classification of the memo was a factor in Fitz being able to convince the judge of the seriousness of the leak.

[lovuian]

16. Yep this may be responsible for agents deaths thats the

reason its topsecret... Ho many lives have been lost... Manslaughter next charge or murder!!!

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

18. Yes it may.

You can be sure a lot of foreign intelligence services, once this broke, started closely examining Mrs. Plame-Wilson's social networks and questioning those they found. Some could have died. We may never know.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

17. It's getting really serious now.

A TOP SECRET/NOFORN classification is a real "No shit. This is serious stuff" classification. NOFORN means no dissemination to foreign nationals. Any.

With a classification like that, why the hell was it being passed around like a party favor?

People have gotten canned and a lot worse for a whole lot less than this one, sports fans.

[Connie_Corleone]

20. I've heard about that term before in a different situation.

I can't remember where. But, yeah. The Do not share with foreign nationals is very serious.

[shraby]

25. That term was used in Bob Woodward's book

about Bush at War. Cheney showed the Iraq war plans to Ambassador Prince Bandar and the plans were marked NOFORN

[Connie_Corleone]

27. Thank You!

That's where I remember it from.

[Athame]

48. and Cheney suffered serious consequences for that breach

Didn't he? :sarcasm:

No wonder this bunch thinks they can get away with anything.

[C_U_L8R]

19. BENEDICT ROVE !!!

So Traitor KKKarl not only blew the cover of a serving covert CIA agent,
he also DISCLOSED the contents of HIGHLY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS.

THIS IS A CLEAR CASE OF ESPIONAGE AND TREASON !!
He should be sent Guantanamo and tried by a military tribunal.

Hanging or Firing Squad?
That is the question.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

22. The treason part...

Is really iffy. He would have to be found dealing directly with a foreign government deemed hostile to the interests and welfare of the United States. Espionage? Also doubtful. That said, there are still a raft of laws that some people could well find themselves defending themselves from.

People like Walker are spending life in Super Max for stuff similar to this.

[Hubert Flottz]

49. Shouldn't KKKarl be arrested and punished now, before he can

have a chance to make his case? It's the way the new terra-ist proof Asscroft/American justass system works. Guilty until proven innocent, hang him! Turn loose the dogs, put the black bag over KKKarl's head and shoot the high voltage to his gonads and we shall soon see, whom, did what! "Everything's changed since 9/11!"

I guess according to Bush, the Terra-ists have already won, because Bush has said over and over that, "if we change our way of life here in America the Terra-ists have won." Tony just the other day, said the exact same thing about the UK. Things like the Patriot Act's I and II, provide aid and comfort to the enemy, because they clearly change the way of life in this country.

Bush want's to have it both ways...

[brettdale]

26. Kick

kick

[K8-EEE]

28. They Must Have Thought It Was "A Historical Document."

Like "Osama Plans Strikes in US."

[maddezmom]

33. I know I should't cuz

there isn't anyting funny about outting an agent....but your post did make me chuckle. The absurd excuses *co keeps givin. :eyes:

[mmonk]

29. What's up with the WSJ?

Weren't they hailing Rove as a hero not long ago? Why the turn?

[emulatorloo]

46. WSJ opinion Page and WSJ News Pages are very different animals

Opinion Page = Crazy Wingnuts
News= Real Reporters

Apparently the divisions are kept pretty separate.

[0007]

30. bttft

[lanlady]

31. specifically, do not share Plame's status

with counterparts in foreign intelligence or with foreign leaders.

But I guess it's fine and dandy to PUBLISH HER NAME IN A FUCKING NEWSPAPER that can be read online anywhere in the fucking world.

I hope the prosecutor throws the book at all of them.

[brettdale]

32. wow

The WSJ doing some real reporting.

[Peace Patriot]

40. There is quite a bit of difference between WSJ reporting and WSJ

editorial. Just think of it this way: Business people do not want or need political "talking points." They want and need real information. They may be basing business and financial decisions on what they read there. And they do not want to be misled on real news and facts. They don't care much what the editors think, as long as they rely on the news info. Editorial is just play time; cocktail chatter; gossip; maybe a line or two for a dinner speech. (Kind of sad, when you think about it. Only money matters. But it's the truth, re WSJ anyway.)

[EVDebs]

35. That's ok. remember when they let Bandar-Bush read same kind of

SNF marked memos

”Saturday, Jan. 11, with the president's permission, Cheney and Rumsfeld call Bandar to Cheney's West Wing office, and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Myers, is there with a top-secret map of the war plan. And it says, ‘Top secret. No foreign.’ No foreign means no foreigners are supposed to see this,” says Woodward.

“They describe in detail the war plan for Bandar. And so Bandar, who's skeptical because he knows in the first Gulf War we didn't get Saddam out, so he says to Cheney and Rumsfeld, ‘So Saddam this time is gonna be out, period?’ And Cheney - who has said nothing - says the following: ‘Prince Bandar, once we start, Saddam is toast.’"

After Bandar left, according to Woodward, Cheney said, “I wanted him to know that this is for real. We're really doing it."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/15/60minutes/main612067.shtml

Yeah, top secret, no foreign ... This White House is "all for one, period".

[Avalux]

36. This is incredible news. Incredible.

:applause:

[DS1]

37. FrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRIDAY NEWS DUMP!

:nuke:

[DearAbby]

41. Friday or not, this story has legs and is jogging the course....

Each day has gleaned more facts to add to the case, Its not going down the memory hole. Quite possible this can be linked to many other "scandals" that seem to have gone down the memory hole...One giant puzzle.

[DS1]

42. Oh yeah, it's ( if true ) gonna shut a lot of people right the hell up

for a long time. A long time, in cable news time, being about a day.

But still, Holy Ace in the Air Force One Batman!

[emulatorloo]

47. WWKMD

What Would Ken Mehlman Do?

I don't know if launching the flying monkee brigade on this one is going to do Rove much good. What will they say, and how will they get away w it given the apparent skepticism of the press nowadays?

[buddysmellgood]

39. Cheney is getting ready to attack the pentagon again.

The early supreme court nomination isn't distracting enough.

[Peace Patriot]

43. Yeah, that keeps coming back to me. They didn't even protect the

Pentagon (let alone our nation's capitol)...with almost an hour's notice?

Bothers me--like the snag in the tapestry, that if you pull it....

[buddysmellgood]

45. Indeed. They figured out that you can't get away with doing something

wrong, unless it's so wrong and so horrible that no one dares think about it.

[converted_democrat]

44. yes!!!!!!! n/t

[annabanana]

50. Now that we have the proof..

(See if you can throw this up at a couple of post offices)

[htuttle]

51. I'm reminded of the top secret Iraq war plans they gave to the Saudis

Those were also marked 'do not release to foreign nationals'.

It's in Woodward's book. They showed them to Prince Bandar before they were shown to Powell.

- On Saturday, Jan. 11, 2003 Cheney, Rumsfeld and Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, met with Prince Bandar bin Sultan, Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States, and showed him essential details of the war plan. Bandar’s principle concern seemed to be that, this time around, the Americans wouldn’t kill Saddam. Cheney assured the prince that the Iraqi strongman was “toast.” Bandar casually mentioned the Saudis’ hope to increase oil production so as to hold gas prices down before the election. He requested and received a subsequent meeting with the president himself. Secretary of State Powell had yet to hear of the plans for war.
http://www.detnews.com/2004/books/0404/23/books-132067.htm

The Bush administration has a very odd way of interpreting the phrase 'top secret'. Wonder what else they've been flashing around?