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democraticrevolution Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:48 PM
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Remember Traingle Shirtwaist!


The Triangle Shirtwaist Company fire, was one of the worst industrial disasters of the twentieth century. It happened right here in New York City on March 25, 1911. It was the result of allowing the corporate elitists to have full control over the working people, especially women. The company employed 500 employees mostly immigrant female workers who worked fourteen hour days. This is what happens when you allow companies to rule over the workers. This is what happens when people forget that the workers of the country, and of the world must unite. Labor desperately needs to be returned to prominence in the twenty-first century. There are too many companies now like Walmart who refuse to allow employees to organize. They pay them the lowest wages legally possible, and do not provide medical benefits. I've heard that many employees have to rely on the state and federal government programs for healthcare. I believe that some even use food stamps. There were even reports of locking employees in over night! Whatever comes of the AFL-CIO possible break up, there has to be a new movement ready to take up the worker's cause in the new century.



Remember Triangle Shirtwaist!

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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:49 PM
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1. And the Repukes would cause that today
With their so-called pro business stance, they are walking all over the workers.
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:56 PM
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2. von Drehle book
I read the book Triangle: The Fire That Changed America by reporter David Von Drehle recently. It's a superb book that not only told the story of the fire, but how the workers' left a legacy that resulted in many of the workplace safety standards we take for granted today.

I live in Tennessee, but a few months back I was in New York and went to the building where the disaster occurred. It's now a part of the NYU campus (one of the science buildings). There's a very small plaque noting the building's sad history. I was disappointed that this was all that is left to mark the passing of all those young women. Until 9/11 it was the worst worksite disaster in New York City history and it was totally preventable.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 09:57 PM
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3. Got links?
I'd love for it all to be true, but at least a couple of these sound potentially dubious. What are your sources for your claims that...

They pay them the lowest wages legally possible
They do not provide medical benefits.
Many employees have to rely on the state and federal government programs for healthcare.
Some even use food stamps.
There were even reports of locking employees in over night!

TIA.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:01 PM
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4. There's plenty of evidence to back up the OP's claim
Do you use google? Or you can search the archives on DU. There's plenty of info.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:08 PM
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5. I'm sure you're right.
For me, when I post things like this, I include my sources in my post the first time. Just a courtesy, since I don't think I should make others re-do the research I've already done.

Or maybe it's all just common knowledge that I've missed.

What do I know? I'm just a grumpy old man. ;)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:19 PM
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6. Oh, I understand. Plus you're from Canada.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:36 PM
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9. Thanks for the links, KiC.
I'm nursing the onset of a cold, and I know I won't be able to do more than scan these, but thank you for the follow-up.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:21 PM
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7. Here's a pretty good link...
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 10:32 PM by two gun sid
It's a speech one of the investigators made many years after the Inquiry. The website also gives a good history of the fire and it's causes. It's a lesson plan for high school history students but still enlightening.

http://urbandreams.ousd.k12.ca.us/lessonplans/triangle/s_file13.htm

Walmart info at this website:

http://www.ufcw.org/index.cfm


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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:28 PM
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8. God bless all the workers who died
Workers of the world unite! I will remember this and try to post something about it on the next Labor Day.
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jim3775 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:38 PM
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10. The sad thing is, something like this happens once or twice a year...
in sweatshops around the world.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:47 PM
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11. In 1991, 25 workers died in a chicken processing plant fire - doors locked
Edited on Thu Jul-21-05 10:49 PM by Bozita
Exit doors were chained to prevent some workers from stealing a chicken.

Things haven't changed all that much in some industries.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/kinstonfire/v-all_headlines/story/1260033p-7375142c.html

Published: Feb 6, 2003
Modified: May 24, 2004 2:35 PM

Fire at Hamlet chicken-processing plant kills 25 (9/4/1991)

By JULIE POWERS RIVES AND TOM MATHER, STAFF WRITERS

HAMLET -- Trapped workers pounded on blocked doors and fled into freezers to escape flames that roared through a Richmond County chicken-processing plant Tuesday, killing at least 25 and injuring 49 others.

A processing area of Imperial Food Products was turned into an inferno when giant grease-filled vats fired by natural gas were ignited when a hydraulic line ruptured. The result was the worse workplace tragedy since state records began in 1970.

Most of the dead -- about three-fourths of them women -- died of smoke inhalation rather than of burns, said Fred D. McQueen of Hamlet, the first doctor at the fire scene.

Many victims were found near doorways, where they tried unsuccessfully to escape the flames and smoke.

Sam L. Breeden, who was walking past the plant when he saw the fire, said he had heard trapped workers inside. "They were screaming 'Let me out.' They were beating on the door. The people could not force the door open."

more...

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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:43 AM
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14. And this in the U$ of A!
When is Labor going to wake up!
Oh! I forgot everyone can become a millionaire in the U$ and therefore would not want to put the virtual million dollars in jeopardy by golly!

:grr:
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-21-05 10:52 PM
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12. My Gandma told me the story
and showed me the building when I was a kid. She lived in the area when she was a young girl and knew a 15 year girl who died there.

Sad.
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11cents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:34 AM
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13. My great-aunt worked there as a teenager
...but wasn't at work on the day. That's what my mom told me, anyway.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:49 AM
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15. I remember watching this movie about it in high school
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 12:58 AM by Lannes
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0009Z0W6S/qid=1122011267/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl27/104-0381863-4438338?v=glance&s=video&n=507846

It was a TV movie.Probably some better documentaries out there.But its available at amazon if you are interested.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:58 AM
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16. Thanks for posting this thread...
I well remember learning about this tragedy years ago. What amazes me today is how the corruption of a 100 or so years ago has come back to haunt us and harm us again. The robber barons are out in full force.

And we, the people, haven't learned a damn thing have we?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:33 AM
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17. Ugh. I saw a documentary on that-it was horrific
the photos of the women jumping to their deaths and the bodies piled on the street-I was reminded of it later on 9/11.All because they were LOCKED IN and forced to work outrageous hours. Yes, if the modern day robber barons continue their abuses of workers, we might be lead right back to 1911. America, after all, is now a country of the rich, by the rich, and for the rich.
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