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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:35 AM
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Howard Dean LIVE on Stephanie Miller Show!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:36 AM
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1. Again, Dean has poor social graces.
He should never take a public stage while important hearings in Congress are going on - he should be sure that all possible are listening to the hearings and not him, IMHO.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:37 AM
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2. CSPAN3 is the ONLY outlet with it
No MSM news service is carrying the hearings. Most Cable companies do not carry CSPAN3.

Get real.

:eyes:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:40 AM
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5. It is up to our leaders to make this information public
Hey Stephanie, I can't come, I have to watch the hearing, this is the most important hearing of our lifetime. Why don't you air it on your show and I will be a part of that?

You get real, I am tired of them not being creative in making the public aware. :hi:

:patriot:

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:03 AM
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10. OH GOOD GRAVY!
HE can listen to it ANY TIME from the online archives.

He can only be on Stephanie Miller during specific time periods.

:eyes:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:21 AM
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16. And he could have asked Stephanie Miller to make the live
broadcast the focus of her show? How about that Gravy?

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:43 AM
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24. Maybe they could not get it to stream at the time.
You think maybe?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:49 AM
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27. They sure could have, given so many of us across the nation
did. Get over it. I am allowed to criticize the man and express my opinions. You are free to ignore. :hi:

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:06 PM
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29. Lamest. Attack. On. Dean. Ever.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:11 PM
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32. Why are honest criticisms considered attacks.
He has not effectively focused on congressional hearings that investigate the crimes of the admin. This is not the first time he did the personal appearance at the same time a hearing was held that directly impacts the administration and discusses their lies and corrupt policies.

I can criticize my leaders all I want, I am an American and it is patriotic to dissent and to speak out! You don't like it, fine!

:patriot: It is just my opinion.

I don't see any of our leaders as gods who can't be criticized, not a one. :hi:

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:38 PM
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41. Speaking of criticism
What are you doing posting on DU when you (and everyone else apparently) should be giving their undivided attention to these hearings?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:41 PM
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42. I can listen and type at the same time and I am not the
leader of the party who is supposed to be trying to help the party save the nation. :shrug: I'm just little ole me!

Follow Dean as the god you think he is, that is your right. Personally, I would think he wants to hear honest criticism, it helps him improve his skills. At least I think that is how things work. :freak:

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:57 PM
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44. Dean a god????
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 12:57 PM by NoPasaran
Me a follower?
:crazy:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:59 PM
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45. You seem upset that I criticize him.
:shrug:

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:56 PM
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43. And Stephanie Miller would have told him to take a flying leap
It's all about ratings, and the hearings woul've turned off her audience.

Want some stuffing with that gravy?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:12 PM
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46. That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, just as I am mine.
You have been proven wrong in the past and have had to eat crow, please realize that you are not infallible, and neither is Mr. Dean!

:hi:

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:22 PM
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48. The same applies to you and your anti-Dean rhetoric.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 01:23 PM by Walt Starr
:P
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:28 PM
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50. It is not anti-Dean rhetoric - it is an opinion that criticizes him, that
does not equate to anti-Dean. One would think you have been reading too much of the other side's positions and have absorbed it. If you ain't with us, you'rn against us. I can criticize the leaders of the democratic party and I think they expect it and what to know what we think, they are not perfect and I betcha they are willing to grow and improve.

Get a clue, I like Dean, I think he needs to use his pulpit more effectively. So there! :P

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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:41 AM
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6. I am listening in Finland

because I am interested and very deeply concerned, even though I am not an American.

Dean should be interested and deeply concerned about THIS hearing!!

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:38 AM
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3. Absolutely agree
eom
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:41 AM
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7. He did the same thing during Conyers hearings.
I think it shows a lack of concern for the truth. He should be focusing on making this hearing public, not on talking about the dem agenda. The dem's agenda should be getting to the truth and making available to the public all of the truth.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:13 AM
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12. I can't get C-Span 3 to stream. Maybe others can't.
Has it occurred to you in your zeal here that radio interviews are set up ahead of time? In this case it was. I did not get to hear it.

What you said is forgetting that Dean was probably reaching a lot of people who are not on internet. Some are not even aware there IS a C-Span 3.

Dean did a powerful job on Franken's show yesterday talking about the Rove issue.

That is probably the most outrageous insult to him I have ever heard.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:20 AM
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15. It's my opinion -- Sorry if you don't like it.
Get over it.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:39 AM
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20. Get over it?
No, it is over-the-line criticism that is not deserved.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:48 AM
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25. It is not over the line criticism - it is stating an honest opinion
and it is too deserved. He did the same thing during the conyers hearing and if I recall, you gave the same excuses, insisting he would cover it later. To my knowledge, he had never emphasized the Conyers hearings and I just think his timing sucks.

Guess what - I am an American - I can criticize my leaders all I want. :patriot:

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:24 PM
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49. And others are free to think your opinions are bullshit if they want
as well as express their opinion that your opinion is bullshit.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:35 PM
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51. My, my aren't you the easy one to rile!
Sure, you are free to express your opinion. No sweat off of my nose and hey, who the hell said I care any way? :hi:

Have a lovely day! :-)

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:35 PM
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52. Not riling me, just stating a fact
:P
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:40 PM
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53. No sir, you have confused the issues again.
You stated opinion, just as I have.

You are entitled to yours, just as I am entitled to mine. Such is life, such is life!

:patriot:

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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:15 PM
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47. Totally agree, but her show is on the airwaves not just the internet.
Like the hearings.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:05 AM
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11. I don't even get C-SPAN3...and I doubt those who do are watching.
It's more important for our face man to be out talking about the hearing than for people to watch it.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:37 AM
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19. Gosh, maybe our guy could have incorporated the hearing with
his talking, damn, what a concept -- focus on what is happening now and get the truth out to those who don't get it. :shrug:

Sorry, I just think he needs to do a better job of focusing on the congressional hearings that matter as they are happening. JMHO. :shrug:


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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:40 AM
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21. Maybe he could not get C-Span 3 at that time. I can't get it to stream.
Maybe? Maybe he and Steph Miller did not have the access at the time? It's not like it was TV.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:42 AM
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23. Oh, that would impress the hell out of me that my guy uses
the excuse that he is technically challenged and couldn't get cspan3. Boy, that works - NOT.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:48 AM
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26. What are you talking about?
:shrug:

The site is too busy, has nothing to do with ability. This is just plain ridiculous.

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:57 AM
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28. so what exactly should he have done??
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 11:58 AM by LSK
Go on the show, not say a damn thing, and let them play CSPAN3 the whole time of his appearance??? How is that effective use of his time?? Its not like he sits around all day in his underwear watching Oprah. Hes just a little BUSY trying to turn RED STATES. And you dont accomplish that by spending the whole time covering one hearing. He has a whole bunch of issues to cover which the average joe should be hearing.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:07 PM
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30. You can do it if you get the nation up in arms (all of the nation)
about the treason and the outing of covert agents and the implications the outing has on our national security.

Use the tools at hand, make all the facts available to as many in the public as possible - become the media, become the source of the truth.

Yeah, he should have gone on SM's show and reacted to the streaming just like was done with the RNC & DNC conventions.

:shrug: Again - just my little ole opinion.


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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:12 PM
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33. so let me get this straight
Mr Dean who has WHO KNOWS WHAT scheduled today, was supposed to sit there for 3 some hours and give play by play commentary on it??

Nevermind he has a planned agenda and scheduled appointments, hes supposed to stay there and give commentary on it.

Ok ....
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:16 PM
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35. Oh you are right.
He is so much important than exposing the national security threats that this administration's policy has created. Damn, how right you are, his schedule is so much important than exposing this administration as the liars they are. Of course, it is more important that he worry about his schedule and not getting the information that the media blocks out to the public every chance he gets! How silly of me! :freak:

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:18 PM
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36. i believe this guy named Fitzgerald has that job already...
Meanwhile red states keep voting red dont they?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:22 PM
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37. I don't know, haven't had an election in awhile.
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 12:31 PM by merh
And, alot of red states didn't vote red, the evil admin and rethugs stole the votes, but hey - you can think Dean a god, far removed from criticism all you want. Me, I would rather demand he improve his game and his timing. There is nothing more important than making the public aware of the truth.

Have a great day! TGIF! :hi:

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:31 PM
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39. agree to disagree
TGIF :hi:
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:32 PM
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40. Agreed
:hi:

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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:15 AM
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13. oh give me a break!!!
If you are listening to CSPAN3, you are more than aware of what Howard might say. I think ANY TIME Howard is on the airwaves of radio, that only benefits us. His job is to outreach to normal folks, not political junkies like us.

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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:25 AM
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18. Sorry, I just think he has poor timing.
If he had made the hearing and the faux alarm a part of his appearance, then I have no problem with it. He is not more important than this congressional hearing or Conyers hearing, but he choses to take the stage while the hearings are on going. JMHO.

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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:13 PM
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34. YEAH I KNOW
SO MANY PEOPLE, HAD HOWARD DEAN NOT BEEN ON THIS SHOW THAT I'VE NEVER HEARD OF WOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING CSPAN 3 WHICH IS ON DIGITAL CABLE FOR MOST OF THE CABLE SUBSCRIBERS!!!!111ONE
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:38 AM
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4. Thanks
Edited on Fri Jul-22-05 10:39 AM by Oreo
not many people even get cspan3

I think it's great that he's getting out there more and more, I wish more dems were like him
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:51 AM
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9. I know. Dean is criticized for not going on the Media and then when he
does, he's slammed for it because an obscure channel is carrying some important hearings.

I don't get C-SPAN3. I get C-SPAN and C-SPAN2. One of those may re-air the hearings later.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 10:50 AM
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8. Good for Dean!!
I love Stephanie Miller. I'll have to catch her and Dean on her archived shows.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:16 AM
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14. Are there archives?
I've never been able to find any.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:23 AM
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17. Here you go :)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:10 PM
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31. Tanks
Appreciate it
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:42 AM
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22. I haven't look yet, but heard on her show a couple days ago that she
started posting archived shows on her web site.

I can't get the EOMSTREAM software to run on my computer. I have sent an email to the webmaster about it and am still waiting for an answer.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:26 PM
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38. Can't get Stephanie Miller at work. What are they talking about? (nt)
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