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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:17 AM
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$82 per barrel
My home heating oil company owner told me I'd probably be better off locking in an oil price for the year now. Last winter he was paying $32/barrel. He expects to pay about $82/barrel this winter. Oy vey!

I can't imagine paying more this winter than we did last ... last winter the bills were brutal! :hide:
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:18 AM
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1. It's just going to keep going up
pretty much forever. Here some analysts are predicting $100/barrel by the end of the year
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:19 AM
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2. If that happens...
this country will quickly slip into something much deeper than a recession...

:scared: :scared: :scared:
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:20 AM
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4. you mean like...
an insurrection?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:27 AM
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LOL...
One of those might be coming regardless, cause we're just sick and tired of being sick and tired!!!

:silly:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:28 AM
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15. An insurrection won't help. Why bother
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:46 AM
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21. cold, bored (and possibly starving) people won't care if it does any good
they would likely just want to break stuff.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:50 AM
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22. LOL
Seriously, I am reading the "Long Emergency" by William Kunstler (on our way of life, peak oil, etc) and we aren't going to get out of this one
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RPM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:19 AM
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3. fredom is on the march
and gays can't marry.

Why, ever, would you complain?

:sarcasm:
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:20 AM
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5. Bushonomics 101 Raise the price of oil as much as you can
and f**k the American People in the process... This is a shame, you would think since we invaded an oil-rich country, we would have plenty of oil at decent prices.....
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:34 AM
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18. Yeah, but the Iraqis are buying it from other countries as the
terrorists blow up the oil infrastructure.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:22 AM
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6. Consider solar thermal panels.

If you have some space in your backyard, access to a "white goods" depot where you can pick up used water heaters, and some time and petty cash to build your own panels, you could save quite a lot in oil by setting up a solar thermal system.

Buying the components prefabricated won't save you much money, because the market is full of gougers looking to cash in on government tax subsidies, selling over-engineered roof-mount units. A DIY project, though, could probably pay you back in under two years the way oil prices are going these days.

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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:23 AM
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7. Umm, that would hurt trucking bad.
Right now I pay $1.99 a gallon for home heating oil, also known as diesel fuel, for my boat. They are the same thing, he is suggetsing a doubling of diesel prices over last years, which would mean $4 a gallon at the pump; that would hurt.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:26 AM
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12. @$4/gallon, i'll switch to B100 biodiesel.
its around $3.50 for B100 right now.

of course, so will everyone else.

i better git mah cord of wood now.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:29 PM
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25. Biodiesel costs will go up as well
We use petroleum to raise the soybeans needed to produce biodiesel. As petroleum prices go up, so goes the cost of any product produced on a farm.
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Medical Speaking Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:24 AM
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8. Profits Up
Major oil companys profits are at a all time high.
Nice right, Are idiot leader wont do a thing about this.

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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:36 AM
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20. Production Down
Supply growth is at an all time low.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:25 AM
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9. Right.
And your barber told you you needed a haircut, and your mechanic told you your car needs a new "gonkulator". Consider the source, and "trust but verify."

True story: I was locked in at $1.69/gal. last winter. Our heating oil company stopped delivering in mid-March. I just got 142 gallons this past Monday, and they tried to charge me $2.19/gal. If I was on "automatic delivery," as they said, where were they in April, May, and June? Not only waiting for the lock-in price to expire, which I would have expected to happen around Memorial Day, but waiting for the price to peak so they could stick it in my ass.

Believe me, if heating oil hadn't already peaked, your oil company wouldn't be suggesting you lock your price in the middle of July.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:25 AM
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10. Switch to something more environment friendly. That is worse than
a parking lot full of SUVs.
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Mizmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:26 AM
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11. Theo nly other option is natural gas
I'm not sure that's much better ...
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:29 AM
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16. Natural gas is also getting scarcer as utilities use it for peaker plants
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:27 AM
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13. I was thinking I should do that also
We now have gas in our neighborhood. Wonder if it would actually be cheaper to put in a gas furnace instead.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:27 AM
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14. I use natural gas to heat my house and for some "inexplicable" reason
the price of gas seems to be in lockstep with the price of oil. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:32 AM
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17. We have natural gas too. It is getting more expensive each year
Same thing is happening to it as oil. We try to keep the heat turned down as much as possible in winter, have a very fuel efficient furnace, good insulation,great windows, etc. But, someday there won't be natural gas either
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liam_laddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 12:09 PM
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24. natch'l gazz...
The price parallel has more to do with the cost of a Btu (British Thermal Unit,) a measure of the potential energy ouput from a material, sometimes measured in "therms" (100,000 Btu's.)
All energy commodities - petroleum, natural gas, coal - have a
Btu or therm "index," and generally these prices can be related to this measure. Plus the ol' supply-and-demand truism...
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:34 AM
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19. Thanks a pantload, George W. Bush
You and your oil republican cronies are responsible for this
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 11:58 AM
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23. The profits the oil co's are making are obscene. While America rots.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 01:44 PM
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26. anybody who doesn't already believe we are all screwed...
I give them about six months to a year before they catch on.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-22-05 02:02 PM
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27. And On What Day Did Retailers Start Dealing In Barrels?
Every drop of oil I've bought over the last 30 or so years was bought and sold by the gallon. The notion of a barrel goes away as soon as the shit lands on a tanker.
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